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On 13/06/2021 at 08:58, Port Said Red said:

It had to be played some time, they made the best choice. Your wording in other posts suggests outside pressure which has shown not to be the case.

Sounding like they were "forced" or at least made to feel they had to play.

Sorry its Daily Mail but heard it on the radio and had to find a source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9683821/Peter-Schmeichel-insists-UEFA-threatened-Denmark-3-0-forfeit-defeat-against-Finland.html

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27 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Sounding like they were "forced" or at least made to feel they had to play.

Sorry its Daily Mail but heard it on the radio and had to find a source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9683821/Peter-Schmeichel-insists-UEFA-threatened-Denmark-3-0-forfeit-defeat-against-Finland.html

Imagine the uproar if that was true. Even UEFA wouldn't be that stupid.

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47 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

I think we probably will finish on 9 points. I think we have genuine depth and quality within our squad now, especially in attack. Unless they raise their game hugely I can't see Scotland getting anything from us and I'd definitely fancy us against Czech Republic.

It's amazing really to compare this squad even to the Euro 2012 one and the strength/depth we have

 

1 GK Joe Hart 19 April 1987 (aged 25) 22 0 England Manchester City
13 GK Robert Green 18 January 1980 (aged 32) 12 0 England West Ham United
23 GK Jack Butland 10 March 1993 (aged 19) 0 0 England Birmingham City
2 DF Glen Johnson 23 August 1984 (aged 27) 40 1 England Liverpool
3 DF Ashley Cole 20 December 1980 (aged 31) 98 0 England Chelsea
5 DF Martin Kelly 27 April 1990 (aged 22) 1 0 England Liverpool
6 DF John Terry 7 December 1980 (aged 31) 77 6 England Chelsea
12 DF Leighton Baines 11 December 1984 (aged 27) 8 0 England Everton
14 DF Phil Jones 21 February 1992 (aged 20) 5 0 England Manchester United
15 DF Joleon Lescott 16 August 1982 (aged 29) 20 1 England Manchester City
18 DF Phil Jagielka 17 August 1982 (aged 29) 12 0 England Everton
4 MF Steven Gerrard (captain) 30 May 1980 (aged 32) 96 19 England Liverpool
8 MF Jordan Henderson 17 June 1990 (aged 21) 5 0 England Liverpool
11 MF Ashley Young 9 July 1985 (aged 26) 25 6 England Manchester United
16 MF James Milner 4 January 1986 (aged 26) 30 0 England Manchester City
17 MF Scott Parker 13 October 1980 (aged 31) 17 0 England Tottenham Hotspur
19 MF Stewart Downing 22 July 1984 (aged 27) 34 0 England Liverpool
20 MF Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 15 August 1993 (aged 18) 5 0 England Arsenal
7 FW Theo Walcott 16 March 1989 (aged 23) 28 4 England Arsenal
9 FW Andy Carroll 6 January 1989 (aged 23) 7 2 England Liverpool
10 FW Wayne Rooney 24 October 1985 (aged 26) 76 29 England Manchester United
21 FW Jermain Defoe 7 October 1982 (aged 29) 48 15 England Tottenham Hotspur
22 FW Danny Welbeck 26 November 1990 (aged 21)

You'd probably only take Rooney, Gerrard and Terry from that team

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49 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Sounding like they were "forced" or at least made to feel they had to play.

Sorry its Daily Mail but heard it on the radio and had to find a source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9683821/Peter-Schmeichel-insists-UEFA-threatened-Denmark-3-0-forfeit-defeat-against-Finland.html

Well they had 3 options. Play now, play the next day or Finland get the win, as per the rules of the tournament. not sure what else UEFA should/could do.

If Eriksen had passed on the pitch I think we would have been looking at a different scenario, but he didn't, he's making jokes apparently today.

IMO the Danish team should have agreed to play the next day. Would have given them the chance to re-group, see how Christian was and go from there.

Also, had they won the game, would Peter have mentioned it? I doubt it...

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52 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

It's amazing really to compare this squad even to the Euro 2012 one and the strength/depth we have

1 GK Joe Hart 19 April 1987 (aged 25) 22 0 England Manchester City
13 GK Robert Green 18 January 1980 (aged 32) 12 0 England West Ham United
23 GK Jack Butland 10 March 1993 (aged 19) 0 0 England Birmingham City
2 DF Glen Johnson 23 August 1984 (aged 27) 40 1 England Liverpool
3 DF Ashley Cole 20 December 1980 (aged 31) 98 0 England Chelsea
5 DF Martin Kelly 27 April 1990 (aged 22) 1 0 England Liverpool
6 DF John Terry 7 December 1980 (aged 31) 77 6 England Chelsea
12 DF Leighton Baines 11 December 1984 (aged 27) 8 0 England Everton
14 DF Phil Jones 21 February 1992 (aged 20) 5 0 England Manchester United
15 DF Joleon Lescott 16 August 1982 (aged 29) 20 1 England Manchester City
18 DF Phil Jagielka 17 August 1982 (aged 29) 12 0 England Everton
4 MF Steven Gerrard (captain) 30 May 1980 (aged 32) 96 19 England Liverpool
8 MF Jordan Henderson 17 June 1990 (aged 21) 5 0 England Liverpool
11 MF Ashley Young 9 July 1985 (aged 26) 25 6 England Manchester United
16 MF James Milner 4 January 1986 (aged 26) 30 0 England Manchester City
17 MF Scott Parker 13 October 1980 (aged 31) 17 0 England Tottenham Hotspur
19 MF Stewart Downing 22 July 1984 (aged 27) 34 0 England Liverpool
20 MF Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 15 August 1993 (aged 18) 5 0 England Arsenal
7 FW Theo Walcott 16 March 1989 (aged 23) 28 4 England Arsenal
9 FW Andy Carroll 6 January 1989 (aged 23) 7 2 England Liverpool
10 FW Wayne Rooney 24 October 1985 (aged 26) 76 29 England Manchester United
21 FW Jermain Defoe 7 October 1982 (aged 29) 48 15 England Tottenham Hotspur
22 FW Danny Welbeck 26 November 1990 (aged 21)

Between 2008 and 2016 it really felt like England were on the decline and the lack of talent coming through the ranks was pretty poor. 

I think the loan market has been used very well by the Premier League clubs since then (Mount, Grealish, Tammy, Kane, James) and because there has to be a cap on the amount of English players in a squad it has forced clubs in the Prem to look at young English talent and play them (Foden, Trent, Stones, Shaw, Rice, Grealish).

Our academy set up as a Country has improved massively during the last 10 years, which has focused coaching more on the continental game of having the ball at your feet than what English football focused on in the past (Strength and speed). 

Long may it continue.

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7 minutes ago, grifty said:

IMO the Danish team should have agreed to play the next day. Would have given them the chance to re-group, see how Christian was and go from there.

 

I disagree, I think shock would of set in. Also players have really strict food prep so they are in best condition for the day, the day after would affect their performance in many ways.

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1 minute ago, Super said:

Not Ashley Cole?

I think you'd take Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Cole, Lescott (Our current CB aren't the best) and Joe Hart (Was good in 2012 lets not forget).

Also lets not forget Rooney and Gerrard massively flattered to deceive in an England shirt most of their career. Just great club players

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Just now, 2015 said:

I think you'd take Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Cole, Lescott (Our current CB aren't the best) and Joe Hart (Was good in 2012 lets not forget).

Also lets not forget Rooney and Gerrard massively flattered to deceive in an England shirt most of their career. Just great club players

Cole was one of the few world class players we had.

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Also think it was criminal not giving Michael Carrick a chance to play for England more around Euro 2012 era, someone who could dictate the pace of a game and be a deep lying playmaker which we cried out for. Far better than Parker and Barry. He'd have walked into the current squad imo.

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Scotland: Marshall, O'Donnell, Hendry, Hanley, Cooper, Robertson, McTominay, McGinn, Armstrong, Dykes, Christie.

Substitutes: Gordon, McLaughlin, McGregor, Adams, Taylor, Turnbull, Nisbet, Fraser, Patterson, Gilmour, Forrest, McKenna.

Czech Republic: Vaclik, Coufal, Boril, Celustka, Kalas, Soucek, Kral, Mosopust, Darida, Jankto, Schick.

Substitutes: Mandous, Kaderabek, Brabec, Barak, Holes, Krmencik, Sevcik, Zima, Hlozek, Vydra, Meteju, Pekhart.

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Turned the Scotland game thinking how long until I hear 500 miles like every other bloody Scottish sporting event, under 2 minutes. 😁 Still really looking forward to this one, very interesting from an England POV to see these sides play and it's a massive occasion for the Scots. Not expecting a high quality game, can see it being very cagey wih neither side having lots of chances.

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10 minutes ago, Baba Yaga said:

Turned the Scotland game thinking how long until I hear 500 miles like every other bloody Scottish sporting event, under 2 minutes. 😁 Still really looking forward to this one, very interesting from an England POV to see these sides play and it's a massive occasion for the Scots. Not expecting a high quality game, can see it being very cagey wih neither side having lots of chances.

The BBC presentation is insufferable on this match - if the presenter gets any more excited she’s going to have an accident 

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2 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Sounding like they were "forced" or at least made to feel they had to play.

Sorry its Daily Mail but heard it on the radio and had to find a source:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9683821/Peter-Schmeichel-insists-UEFA-threatened-Denmark-3-0-forfeit-defeat-against-Finland.html

Sorry it's daily mail? do tell us what straight as a die always truthful paper you read? I'm sick of snide comments about papers like the Sun Express or Mail from posters on here as if reading other papers (that will remain nameless) somehow gives them the moral high ground.

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1 minute ago, pillred said:

Sorry it's daily mail? do tell us what straight as a die always truthful paper you read? I'm sick of snide comments about papers like the Sun Express or Mail from posters on here as if reading other papers (that will remain nameless) somehow gives them the moral high ground.

Viz is a more accurate newspaper than the Mail, Sun or Express.

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