Major Isewater Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Largish Nige threatened the players who failed the fitness test that they would be in the following week , did anyone fail ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Would be fascinating to know wouldn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Put it this way, would you want to fail if Largish Nige threatened you. Bet we have the fittest squad in the league by the end of August.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Taz said: Bet we have the fittest squad in the league by the end of August.... Ironically, I recall Johnson and Holden both stating that we were working through pre season with an aim of being the fittest squad in the league come August..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Ironically, I recall Johnson and Holden both stating that we were working through pre season with an aim of being the fittest squad in the league come August..... To be fair we did look pretty good last August. About the only time we did last season. As for Johnson, could never sustain anything over a period of time unless it was losing games. Usually fell away in the second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Taz said: To be fair we did look pretty good last August. About the only time we did last season. As for Johnson, could never sustain anything over a period of time unless it was losing games. Usually fell away in the second half of the season. True, we did look alright in August. However, clearly our squad was way off the standard in terms of fitness, physicality, and robustness for a Championship season (as Pearson has noted). IMO that's a massive indictment of the work that Holden and co did pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Possibly JD but understandable if so. Noticed he started a bleep test video With Edwards but wasn’t in another with Edwards on his own. That being said, the bleep test isn’t be all end all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 Martin Kuhl, Lee Trundle and Peter Beadle all failed the fitness tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: True, we did look alright in August. However, clearly our squad was way off the standard in terms of fitness, physicality, and robustness for a Championship season (as Pearson has noted). IMO that's a massive indictment of the work that Holden and co did pre-season. It`s more about rest and recovery IMO. The players were fit and raring to go in August but we didn`t manage the schedule properly to avoid flogging them when they needed rest. As a result, hamstrings get pulled and the player is out for weeks/months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, sglosbcfc said: Martin Kuhl, Lee Trundle and Peter Beadle all failed the fitness tests. Lee Tomlin is still hiding behind the bogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: True, we did look alright in August. However, clearly our squad was way off the standard in terms of fitness, physicality, and robustness for a Championship season (as Pearson has noted). IMO that's a massive indictment of the work that Holden and co did pre-season. TBF to Holden, COVID had already disrupted his end of season spell. The down time was short and they couldn't train as a team for a lot of the time. Let's not forget, the completely useless backroom staff that has now scuttled off to Ipswich etc, were all he had to work with. That said there was still a lot lacking and by the time Nige came in it was more obvious. Not saying that Holden doesn't deserve some blame, but that whole culture was in place and set by Johnson and the rest. So in that much Holden was complicit. Hopefully the new backroom staff will shake things up and put us back somewhere near where we should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, BOSRed said: Possibly JD but understandable if so. Noticed he started a bleep test video With Edwards but wasn’t in another with Edwards on his own. That being said, the bleep test isn’t be all end all I thought that video showed Dasilva actually probably being one who passed, while the two of them were shown doing the yo-yo test you could see others sat down already implying Jay had made it further than most in that group, looked like he was second only to Edwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 May well be right. Tbf, judging by other videos, JD has been working very hard in the off season on his fitness. Really hoping we get a full season out of him to see what he can really do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Lee Tomlin is still hiding behind the bogs. Forgot his kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Murraysrightplum said: Forgot his kit He`d have to play in his pants and vest then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: It`s more about rest and recovery IMO. The players were fit and raring to go in August but we didn`t manage the schedule properly to avoid flogging them when they needed rest. As a result, hamstrings get pulled and the player is out for weeks/months. Yepp, that's very fair and accurate. Nevertheless, the blame falls on the same people.....Holden + coaches, strength and conditioning team, physio etc (and ultimately Ashton for employing them) 7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: TBF to Holden, COVID had already disrupted his end of season spell. The down time was short and they couldn't train as a team for a lot of the time. Let's not forget, the completely useless backroom staff that has now scuttled off to Ipswich etc, were all he had to work with. That said there was still a lot lacking and by the time Nige came in it was more obvious. Not saying that Holden doesn't deserve some blame, but that whole culture was in place and set by Johnson and the rest. So in that much Holden was complicit. Hopefully the new backroom staff will shake things up and put us back somewhere near where we should be. True, COVID didn't help, though 91 other English teams seemed to deal with it better than we did! Agree - as above, ultimately the blame lies with those who employed incompetent staff (i.e Mark Ashton). Given how bad it was last season, I'm hoping that we'll see a notable improvement in performances simply as a result of the new medical/fitness staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Given how bad it was last season, I'm hoping that we'll see a notable improvement in performances simply as a result of the new medical/fitness staff Plus a coach with experience, a coach with a focus and game plan. Just hope we can get a few players in soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Lee Tomlin is still hiding behind the bogs. Throwing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Lee Tomlin is still hiding behind the bogs. 1 hour ago, Murraysrightplum said: Forgot his kit 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: He`d have to play in his pants and vest then. 34 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Throwing up probably getting his energy levels up with 2 pints of lager,3 clarks pies and 20 B and H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renaissance Williams Posted June 19, 2021 Report Share Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: He`d have to play in his pants and vest then. Stuff of nightmares……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: It`s more about rest and recovery IMO. The players were fit and raring to go in August but we didn`t manage the schedule properly to avoid flogging them when they needed rest. As a result, hamstrings get pulled and the player is out for weeks/months. Images of Andy Rolls pinning them down on the treatment bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said: Yepp, that's very fair and accurate. Nevertheless, the blame falls on the same people.....Holden + coaches, strength and conditioning team, physio etc (and ultimately Ashton for employing them) True, COVID didn't help, though 91 other English teams seemed to deal with it better than we did! Agree - as above, ultimately the blame lies with those who employed incompetent staff (i.e Mark Ashton). Given how bad it was last season, I'm hoping that we'll see a notable improvement in performances simply as a result of the new medical/fitness staff I can think of ONE that didn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted June 20, 2021 Report Share Posted June 20, 2021 I understand that they all passed, unfortunately 4 of the players didn't get to take the test as they pulled their hamstrings getting out the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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