Jerseybean Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 As per the title, the world of football has gone even more bonkers! https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12337836/harry-kane-man-city-make-100m-transfer-bid-for-tottenham-striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: As per the title, the world of football has gone even more bonkers! https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12337836/harry-kane-man-city-make-100m-transfer-bid-for-tottenham-striker Seems like a bargain when you consider that PSG paid twice that for Neymar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 About what you'd expect in today's market, he's about to turn 28 so wouldn't expect it to go much higher but his quality and the amount of shirtsales he'll generate will comfortably justify the price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, Fammyfan said: About what you'd expect in today's market, he's about to turn 28 so wouldn't expect it to go much higher but his quality and the amount of shirtsales he'll generate will comfortably justify the price tag. Not so…. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2016/07/31/this-week-in-soccer-biz-130m-for-pogba-put-in-context-and-the-myth-of-zlatan-100m-shirt-sales/?sh=4aa2d764eaef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not so…. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2016/07/31/this-week-in-soccer-biz-130m-for-pogba-put-in-context-and-the-myth-of-zlatan-100m-shirt-sales/?sh=4aa2d764eaef The article explains that not all revenue will go to the club, even if the profit per shirt isn't as high as expected, Kane will most likely be Man City's main striker for the next 5 years or so. Shirt sales will be huge in that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not so…. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2016/07/31/this-week-in-soccer-biz-130m-for-pogba-put-in-context-and-the-myth-of-zlatan-100m-shirt-sales/?sh=4aa2d764eaef People take it far too literally. It’s not just shirt sales.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fammyfan said: The article explains that not all revenue will go to the club, even if the profit per shirt isn't as high as expected, Kane will most likely be Man City's main striker for the next 5 years or so. Shirt sales will be huge in that time. Exactly. Of course there are commercial benefits, but too many people multiply sales x price and come up with a massive figure, ignoring costs to produce and not realising the club don’t get 100p in every £1 of sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted June 21, 2021 Report Share Posted June 21, 2021 On current form I wouldn’t get wildly excited about a front line consisting of Sterling, Kane and to a lesser extent Foden. If Man City want to spend £100m on a striker then Lukaku’s yer man right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Could be win-win-win. Kane gets to win trophies and boost his bank balance. Man City cement their domestic dominance. Spurs get £100M for a player that doesn't want to be there and won't get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Exactly. Of course there are commercial benefits, but too many people multiply sales x price and come up with a massive figure, ignoring costs to produce and not realising the club don’t get 100p in every £1 of sales. Plus many people that buy a "Kane" shirt would just as quickly purchase a new shirt with "Mbappe", "Haaland" or even bloody "Diedhiou" on the back...because they always buy a shirt, and they always get the star striker's name on it. Or they may be 100% certain to buy a shirt anyway, and just get Kane on the back because it's an option. So how do you quantify which shirts Kane has definitely sold over and above those that would have inevitably been sold anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly The Kid Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Exactly. Of course there are commercial benefits, but too many people multiply sales x price and come up with a massive figure, ignoring costs to produce and not realising the club don’t get 100p in every £1 of sales. And how much of that 100p in every pound finds it's way back to the sweatshops of Bangladesh where they're made en mass? Not a lot I'm sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Since Spurs value him at £150m apparantly, can't see this first bid getting anywhere. More surprising to read they may offer Sterling and Jesus as part of a player swap deal - can't see any player wanting to go to a managerless, underachieving Spurs to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Redstart said: Since Spurs value him at £150m apparantly, can't see this first bid getting anywhere. More surprising to read they may offer Sterling and Jesus as part of a player swap deal - can't see any player wanting to go to a managerless, underachieving Spurs to be honest. Apparently there are some "behind the scenes" problems with Sterling at Man City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, BigTone said: Apparently there are some "behind the scenes" problems with Sterling at Man City. Any idea what sort of problems Tone? He's been off the mark for a while now. Can't believe he's still being picked to start for England tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, Akira said: Any idea what sort of problems Tone? He's been off the mark for a while now. Can't believe he's still being picked to start for England tbh! I can, it’s Gareth Southgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Akira said: Any idea what sort of problems Tone? He's been off the mark for a while now. Can't believe he's still being picked to start for England tbh! Not sure. It was something I read the other day and it didn't go into details. Might be nothing in it but equally its odd that they would offer him as part exchange if there wasn't some truth in it. Time will tell I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Exactly. Of course there are commercial benefits, but too many people multiply sales x price and come up with a massive figure, ignoring costs to produce and not realising the club don’t get 100p in every £1 of sales. To be fair Dave, he said justify rather than cover. If he gets £20m back in shirt sales, scores 30 and Man City win the Prem and Champions League, that would probably cover it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, grifty said: To be fair Dave, he said justify rather than cover. If he gets £20m back in shirt sales, scores 30 and Man City win the Prem and Champions League, that would probably cover it! Yeah, as I said above there are other benefits but it is a fallacy that shirt sales will cover the fee / wages, like many suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Akira said: Any idea what sort of problems Tone? He's been off the mark for a while now. Can't believe he's still being picked to start for England tbh! To be fair to Sterling and Southgate, if you look at the qualifying goals/performances, Sterling was involved in pretty much every goal, scoring 8 and assisting a few too. He was a big reason as to why we got to the Euro's so it's not the craziest thing to pick him. Sterling has a good record for England. He then scored in the opening game and looked relatively dangerous with a few good turns and runs at the defence so maybe possibly justified starting the 2nd game. He should have been off at half time or just after v Scotland though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Somethings been wrong behind the scenes at spurs for a while now. Levy must be testing the fans paitence there. Cant get a manager, selling the golden boy. Wonder if hes thinking of leaving? Something certainly smells wrong at spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 When a manager gets sacked in cup final week, you know something aint right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 This is definitely a factor as to why he's not been on it at the Euros so far. How can he be fully focused on the job at hand when he doesn't know where he's going to be playing, working, living in 7 weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 hours ago, BigTone said: Apparently there are some "behind the scenes" problems with Sterling at Man City. I read a similar story but no facts and from "sources". I would imagine Sterling himself is not happy he has dropped down the pecking order at City. It looks like Pep would be happy to off load him and I bet the "source" is actually Man City paving the way to oust him but making it look like its Sterling pushing to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Can someone put Kane in perspective, how good compared to other household names is he? Watching him he often looks like the last place he wants to be is on the pitch. How successful is he in terms of goals scored from play compared to dead balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Sure it didn't read "£100 and a packet of M&Ms", and someone had a fold in the paper and just read "£100M"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, dave36 said: Can someone put Kane in perspective, how good compared to other household names is he? Watching him he often looks like the last place he wants to be is on the pitch. How successful is he in terms of goals scored from play compared to dead balls? Lets turn that on its head and ask who would have Kane in a BCFC shirt. Despite his detractors on here I doubt too many would say no. He scores goals and lots of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BigTone said: Lets turn that on its head and ask who would have Kane in a BCFC shirt. Despite his detractors on here I doubt too many would say no. He scores goals and lots of them. I know he scored a fair few, but look at the 2018 World Cup and remember how many he scored from play - top scorer with 6 goals and only 14 shots on target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, dave36 said: Can someone put Kane in perspective, how good compared to other household names is he? Watching him he often looks like the last place he wants to be is on the pitch. How successful is he in terms of goals scored from play compared to dead balls? Last season was his best return in the sense of non penalty goals in the PL for a few years with 19, he scored the 5th most non penalty goals across all competitions in the top 5 leagues behind Lewandowski, Messi, Ronaldo and Haaland. Kane is a genuinely dangerous forward at the top european level, if anything his willingness to come deep and get involved hurts him as it takes him away from the front line, picture him in a Man City team where he doesn't need to come short and only focus on getting in behind or being in positions to score and the players behind him able to do the rest, rather the amount of build work he's had to do at Spurs and linking with Son etc. If Kane goes to City and doesn't get injured he's almost nailed on to win the golden boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 If they're willing to pay £100mil for Kane they may as well push the boat out further and secure Haaland who is only 20 years old and I believe has more potential to be a top striker than Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, BigTone said: Lets turn that on its head and ask who would have Kane in a BCFC shirt. Despite his detractors on here I doubt too many would say no. He scores goals and lots of them. With our track record, we’d soon put a stop to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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