Nogbad the Bad Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 16 hours ago, shahanshahan said: Not the City v Rovers game I was expecting, but I'd love to go if it were possible. Wouldn't mind trying the vegan food there too I can't stand vegan food, the chips were top notch last time I went there though. Had some Lamb Lasagne in the clubhouse too - it was great and I imagine many of FGR's regulars are missing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I can't stand vegan food, the chips were top notch last time I went there though. Had some Lamb Lasagne in the clubhouse too - it was great and I imagine many of FGR's regulars are missing it. You obviously haven't eaten the right vegan food.....and i very much doubt that the FGR regular's are as blinkered as you obviously are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 nice place nice fixture but bugger if im walking up that hill again to the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 3 hours ago, maxjak said: You obviously haven't eaten the right vegan food.....and i very much doubt that the FGR regular's are as blinkered as you obviously are? Blinkered? Nope, ordinary bloke and normal well balanced diet, just not one of the tiny minority of vegans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Blinkered? Nope, ordinary bloke and normal well balanced diet, just not one of the tiny minority of vegans. Have you tried much vegan food then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Blinkered? Nope, ordinary bloke and normal well balanced diet, just not one of the tiny minority of vegans. I love a bit of vegan - as part of my healthy balanced diet. Just as with non-vegan food you have to work out what's good and what isn't. But the falafel and quinoa salad by my local vegan cafe is really top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: I love a bit of vegan - as part of my healthy balanced diet. Just as with non-vegan food you have to work out what's good and what isn't. But the falafel and quinoa salad by my local vegan cafe is really top notch. Yep, I've had falafal at St.Nicholas Market - it's OK occasionally if you're really hungry and there's a big queue everywhere else. As with all sorts of food previously thought of as 'exotic' it has become more widely available and reasonably popular here. I wouldn't call it vegan food though, any more than chips are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Blinkered? Nope, ordinary bloke and normal well balanced diet, just not one of the tiny minority of vegans. 14% - 7.2 million of UK residents currently enjoy a meat free diet. So if 7.2 million is a tiny.figure?..........then the £8.0 million we paid Chelsea for Kalas was a steal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 7 hours ago, maxjak said: 14% - 7.2 million of UK residents currently enjoy a meat free diet. So if 7.2 million is a tiny.figure?..........then the £8.0 million we paid Chelsea for Kalas was a steal? We were discussing vegans, who are indeed a tiny minority. If you're now talking vegetarians then even if your figure is correct and not exaggerated guesswork by either you or someone who has put figures elsewhere on the internet (I, for one, was not included in the huge countrywide poll that must have been conducted) then as the population is thought to be well over 70m that would still mean about 9 out of 10 enjoy regularly including meat in their diet. Those 90% are not being catered for at FGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: We were discussing vegans, who are indeed a tiny minority. If you're now talking vegetarians then even if your figure is correct and not exaggerated guesswork by either you or someone who has put figures elsewhere on the internet (I, for one, was not included in the huge countrywide poll that must have been conducted) then as the population is thought to be well over 70m that would still mean about 9 out of 10 enjoy regularly including meat in their diet. Those 90% are not being catered for at FGR. Yawn! I think the fact that Vegans and vegetarians are not catered for at the other 91 football league clubs, is more the question? And if you cannot go 90 minutes without eating some dead animal............ well then, I suggest taking a sandwich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, maxjak said: Yawn! I think the fact that Vegans and vegetarians are not catered for at the other 91 football league clubs, is more the question? And if you cannot go 90 minutes without eating some dead animal............ well then, I suggest taking a sandwich? One thing I've noticed about the minute number of vegans I've met is they can't stop talking about it. It's actually a very uninteresting subject for the vast majority of the population, including me, so having made my point about the dictatorial attitude of FGR's owner not catering for the vast majority, I'll happily leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: One thing I've noticed about the minute number of vegans I've met is they can't stop talking about it. It's actually a very uninteresting subject for the vast majority of the population, including me, so having made my point about the dictatorial attitude of FGR's owner not catering for the vast majority, I'll happily leave it there. Doh! Correct me if I am wrong.............but you initially broached the subject by stating "I can't stand vegan food".....If you hadn't have hoisted your own insightful opinion on this forum, you would have heard nothing from me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 So besides Veganism if that’s a word. Wonder if they move this fixture forward to the 31st July. And give us a few tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, maxjak said: Doh! Correct me if I am wrong.............but you initially broached the subject by stating "I can't stand vegan food".....If you hadn't have hoisted your own insightful opinion on this forum, you would have heard nothing from me? I'm sure you could talk about this all day (and probably do ) but as I said above I've made my point and have nothing else to say on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 makes i laugh only on otib you can have a topic about forest green away in the cup that leads to a argument on vegan food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 21 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I wouldn't call it vegan food though, any more than chips are. Mate. I hate to tell you but it literally is vegan food, as are chips if they're fried in veg oil. If you ate falafel and thought it was ok then maybe you're actually more open to some vegan stuff than you think. Personally I think the best in Bristol is the falafel king truck that used to be down on the waterfront. I'm not vegan, I'll go to a steak house any day of the week. But I'm also very happy at the local vegan cafe, not least because they make the best coffee on island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Mate. I hate to tell you but it literally is vegan food, as are chips if they're fried in veg oil. If you ate falafel and thought it was ok then maybe you're actually more open to some vegan stuff than you think. Personally I think the best in Bristol is the falafel king truck that used to be down on the waterfront. I'm not vegan, I'll go to a steak house any day of the week. But I'm also very happy at the local vegan cafe, not least because they make the best coffee on island. Perhaps I should have said originally that I hate the thought of being dictated to to eat vegan food, or in the case of FGR, go hungry. I don't consider falafal to be the sole preserve of vegans just because they are willing to eat it too. Originated in the middle east I believe - I'm not sure veganism is particularly popular there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Every time I eat vegan food, I just falafel afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: One thing I've noticed about the minute number of vegans I've met is they can't stop talking about it. It's actually a very uninteresting subject for the vast majority of the population, including me, so having made my point about the dictatorial attitude of FGR's owner not catering for the vast majority, I'll happily leave it there. ha ha true ,they cant shut up about it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I'm sure you could talk about this all day (and probably do ) but as I said above I've made my point and have nothing else to say on the subject. Ah?.............So It'll be Nogbad the Bland then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 21 hours ago, maxjak said: 14% - 7.2 million of UK residents currently enjoy a meat free diet. So if 7.2 million is a tiny.figure?..........then the £8.0 million we paid Chelsea for Kalas was a steal? 11 hours ago, maxjak said: Yawn! I think the fact that Vegans and vegetarians are not catered for at the other 91 football league clubs, is more the question? And if you cannot go 90 minutes without eating some dead animal............ well then, I suggest taking a sandwich? So, first you demonstrate that when replying to @Nogbad the Bad you don’t know the difference between a vegetarian and a vegan and then you say vegans and vegetarians are “not catered for at the other 91 football league clubs” - so, this further demonstrates that you aren’t aware there are only 71 football league clubs apart from FGR and it also demonstrates that you aren’t even aware about what is going on regarding vegetarian catering etc at your own club - here’s some info on Bristol City’s vegetarian options ... https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/new-food-and-drink-offerings-at-ashton-gate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 25/06/2021 at 13:45, Nogbad the Bad said: I can't stand vegan food, the chips were top notch last time I went there though. Had some Lamb Lasagne in the clubhouse too - it was great and I imagine many of FGR's regulars are missing it. Everything cooked at FGR is Vegan. The Lasagne is Quorn. The chips are vegan. As a confirmed meat eater...the food at FGR for the ordinary fan, is by far the tastiest outside of hospitality that I've had at any ground. And tbh...better than many in hospitality including our own. The pie made of Quorn actually tastes more meatier than a meat pie...topped with mashed potatoes and crispy fried onions...lovely. It's a shame labels are put on such food intake. Much of the world's intake is plant, fruit, herb and spice based. India, middle East, Africa, Asia, Mediterranean. It's natural, tasty and healthy. Doesn't need a label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, spudski said: Everything cooked at FGR is Vegan. The Lasagne is Quorn. The chips are vegan. As a confirmed meat eater...the food at FGR for the ordinary fan, is by far the tastiest outside of hospitality that I've had at any ground. And tbh...better than many in hospitality including our own. The pie made of Quorn actually tastes more meatier than a meat pie...topped with mashed potatoes and crispy fried onions...lovely. It's a shame labels are put on such food intake. Much of the world's intake is plant, fruit, herb and spice based. India, middle East, Africa, Asia, Mediterranean. It's natural, tasty and healthy. Doesn't need a label. I wouldn't trust Quorn, very odd stuff which is dangerous to some people and is even banned in some countries. Most Quorn products contain egg whites, so not suitable for vegans anyway. Also prepared Quorn meals tend to be high in fat or salt so not healthy in that respect. If you don't want to eat meat, fine (but don't go on about it all day) but why would you then need to eat something that looks like a sausage, or chicken, but isn't? https://cspinet.org/tip/dangers-quorn-products-you-should-know https://www.nutritionaction.com/daily/what-not-to-eat/dangers-quorn-products/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I wouldn't trust Quorn, very odd stuff which is dangerous to some people and is even banned in some countries. Most Quorn products contain egg whites, so not suitable for vegans anyway. Also prepared Quorn meals tend to be high in fat or salt so not healthy in that respect. If you don't want to eat meat, fine (but don't go on about it all day) but why would you then need to eat something that looks like a sausage, or chicken, but isn't? https://cspinet.org/tip/dangers-quorn-products-you-should-know https://www.nutritionaction.com/daily/what-not-to-eat/dangers-quorn-products/ I totally agree...I've never understood vegan or vegetarians wanting to eat something that looks like meat. I guess it depends on the reasons they choose to go meat free. I've personally found when eating out, that vegan/vegetarian meals tend to be better prepared with more care and more often than not tastier. Especially in this country. Unless you are paying prime prices, meat and fish dishes tend to be very bland. Of course there are exceptions...but in general it seems the case. In countries where veg, fruits, nuts, seeds, pulses, spices are natural and in abundance it's just a normal way of living. Healthy and tasty. We screwed up in the 70s when we started introducing pre made meals. It's gradually become the norm here. No wonder obesity and health issues are such a problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I wouldn't trust Quorn, very odd stuff which is dangerous to some people and is even banned in some countries. Most Quorn products contain egg whites, so not suitable for vegans anyway. Also prepared Quorn meals tend to be high in fat or salt so not healthy in that respect. If you don't want to eat meat, fine (but don't go on about it all day) but why would you then need to eat something that looks like a sausage, or chicken, but isn't? https://cspinet.org/tip/dangers-quorn-products-you-should-know https://www.nutritionaction.com/daily/what-not-to-eat/dangers-quorn-products/ Good job there's no adverse side-effects of eating red meat then. Just a wide variety of cancers and heart problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Good job there's no adverse side-effects of eating red meat then. Just a wide variety of cancers and heart problems! Enjoy your Quorn Kid, entirely your choice if you've decided you'd rather eat it than meat. My interest in this conversation is about choice being denied to meat eaters at FGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Good job there's no adverse side-effects of eating red meat then. Just a wide variety of cancers and heart problems! Only in processed red meat. Red meat unprocessed, eaten in moderation, as part of a healthy balanced diet, is proven to have health benefits and neutral in health problems. As soon as man gets his mitts on it, and makes it processed, then it becomes a problem. Anything organic, that you can kill, pick or dig up will be good for us. Lot to be said for the caveman diet. Trying to find it is half the problem. World is just a toxic balloon. I remember a piece of heaven on earth at a remote beach on a remote Greek Island. An old couple had a 'taverna' on the beach. Land behind had fruit, nuts, veg, herbs, a few chickens, cow, donkey, sheep, goats. A well. Solar panels and small generator. A small boat for fishing. Totally self sufficient. You ate whatever had been caught, was in season from the small plot. Made a few £££s for other essentials. Imo...that's how we are meant to live. Not working our bollox off to buy food in supermarkets. Slightly off on a tangent...had a moment remembering normal times :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, spudski said: Only in processed red meat. Red meat unprocessed, eaten in moderation, as part of a healthy balanced diet, is proven to have health benefits and neutral in health problems. As soon as man gets his mitts on it, and makes it processed, then it becomes a problem. Anything organic, that you can kill, pick or dig up will be good for us. Lot to be said for the caveman diet. Trying to find it is half the problem. World is just a toxic balloon. I remember a piece of heaven on earth at a remote beach on a remote Greek Island. An old couple had a 'taverna' on the beach. Land behind had fruit, nuts, veg, herbs, a few chickens, cow, donkey, sheep, goats. A well. Solar panels and small generator. A small boat for fishing. Totally self sufficient. You ate whatever had been caught, was in season from the small plot. Made a few £££s for other essentials. Imo...that's how we are meant to live. Not working our bollox off to buy food in supermarkets. Slightly off on a tangent...had a moment remembering normal times Sounds idyllic! And yes, I was being slightly facetious regards red meat. Organic, locally farmed fillet beef is one thing, petri dish grown chicken another! It's also true that some scientists do have concerns over ultra-processed foods such as Quorn, as our digestive systems struggle to digest the food properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 24/06/2021 at 15:58, Redtucks said: Thee bist both a bit picky!!! pickay. casn't speak Bristawl or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 4 hours ago, spudski said: Only in processed red meat. Red meat unprocessed, eaten in moderation, as part of a healthy balanced diet, is proven to have health benefits and neutral in health problems. As soon as man gets his mitts on it, and makes it processed, then it becomes a problem. Anything organic, that you can kill, pick or dig up will be good for us. Lot to be said for the caveman diet. Trying to find it is half the problem. World is just a toxic balloon. I remember a piece of heaven on earth at a remote beach on a remote Greek Island. An old couple had a 'taverna' on the beach. Land behind had fruit, nuts, veg, herbs, a few chickens, cow, donkey, sheep, goats. A well. Solar panels and small generator. A small boat for fishing. Totally self sufficient. You ate whatever had been caught, was in season from the small plot. Made a few £££s for other essentials. Imo...that's how we are meant to live. Not working our bollox off to buy food in supermarkets. Slightly off on a tangent...had a moment remembering normal times Out of Interest, did they have SKY and BT Sport in their Taverna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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