handsofclay Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 UEFA have done away with the away goals counting double rule. In force since 1965. Drawn matches over two legs will now go to extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 It’s crazy how far out of touch UEFA really are with the people who pay and watch the games. Away goals and the constantly changing scenario worked beautifully and I can’t see any reason to change something that wasn’t broken in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Didn't it use to be the case where they only counted after extra time anyway? Otherwise the team at home in the second leg had an unfair advantage.... Either that or I need to put the Whiskey down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, CiderHeadDan said: It’s crazy how far out of touch UEFA really are with the people who pay and watch the games. Away goals and the constantly changing scenario worked beautifully and I can’t see any reason to change something that wasn’t broken in the first place. Could argue that fans like extra time and penalties - which this change of rule will undoubtedly result in more of - and so actually it appeals to fans more. Also - more match time, more advertising! Ca'ching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHeadDan Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Coxy27 said: Could argue that fans like extra time and penalties - which this change of rule will undoubtedly result in more of - and so actually it appeals to fans more. Also - more match time, more advertising! Ca'ching. True, I think penalties may appeal to some more, but I don’t think many people would say that extra time in general is an appealing factor. I may be wrong, just my view of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 The away goals rule was bought in to avoid sterile ‘ten men behind the ball’ tactics employed by the visiting team. We will see how it changes the approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted June 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 UEFA's argument is that there is less difference between playing home and away these days with better pitches etc and it has narrowed results wise in all leagues since 1965. Plus they say that it is actually counter productive as the team at home in the first leg now seem to play more cautiously for fear of conceding an away goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 I've never been a fan of away goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Backward step in my opinion, back to the days of boring draws and underdogs playing for penalties, thought we'd got away from all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 One of my mates is gonna be delighted. To his mind winning 2-1 (h) but losing 4-2 (a) is a 6-6 draw. ”in the event of a draw” seems to be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Away goals rule ruins so many 2nd legs. Glad it’s been done with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsey Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 Might as well just do away with two legs altogether then. The away goals rule kept two legged ties exciting in my opinion. Yet again another poor decision which I feel will make European football worse and less enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 42 minutes ago, Davefevs said: One of my mates is gonna be delighted. To his mind winning 2-1 (h) but losing 4-2 (a) is a 6-6 draw. ”in the event of a draw” seems to be ignored. Dave, there’s lies, damned lies, statistics, and then - way out in the distance -is your mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 It could've been tweaked to make it 90 mins only. I always thought it unfair that the away team second leg had a big advantage going into extra time in that if they get one, the home team would have to get two to win it. I don't think it'll be as bad a thing as most make out, the play-offs don't have them, and I reckon they're the most entertaining matches all season. Both teams usually go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: It could've been tweaked to make it 90 mins only. I always thought it unfair that the away team second leg had a big advantage going into extra time in that if they get one, the home team would have to get two to win it. I don't think it'll be as bad a thing as most make out, the play-offs don't have them, and I reckon they're the most entertaining matches all season. Both teams usually go for it. Playoffs are excellent, I wonder though...If you're 1-0 up vs a superior side away- say I dunno, let's pick an example- Lyon v Man City* in a CL knockout. You have won the 1st leg with a reasonable display and are a goal up going into the away leg- you will then go and park the bus in that 2nd leg- where's the incentive to even play a strong counterpressing game- I'm unsure this will improve the game but we'll see. Whereas sides in the playoffs are relatively evenly matched often- Cup ties, not so much. *Although Lyon's recent record in that head to head is 2-1-0 and they had plenty of positivity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsey Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 I'd be interested to see a poll on this. Seems like it's roughly a 50/50 split of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 I’m actually for this. I think it will lead to more open, better contests as a goal will be a goal, no need for home teams to be terrified of conceding a dreaded ‘away goal’. This is simpler and better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted June 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 I'm all in favour of the change but maybe they could phase it in gradually. Next season instead of each away goal (in the event of an aggregate tie) being worth double they could make it worth 1.5 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, handsofclay said: UEFA have done away with the away goals counting double rule. In force since 1965. Before that, if the scores were level the winner was decided by tossing a disc. Ok you've tied with Barcelona over two games but then call Heads when it should have been tails. That's why Away goals was dreamed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: The away goals rule was bought in to avoid sterile ‘ten men behind the ball’ tactics employed by the visiting team. We will see how it changes the approach. Exactly that. The only problem being the emphasis changed and the home team became the sterile ten men behind the ball so as not to concede an away goal. Personally don't like extra time either as it favours the home side in the second leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Glad that rule has gone Home teams might now go for it a bit more instead of worrying that they might let in an away goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kit Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Long overdue, so many games get ruined because a goal can completely kill some games and also ends with home teams being cagey and negative for fear of conceding at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 24/06/2021 at 15:33, LondonBristolian said: I've never been a fan of away goals. I cant remember what they feel like to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: I cant remember what they feel like to be honest. Although we’ve seen plenty at AG this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 24/06/2021 at 09:32, handsofclay said: UEFA's argument is that there is less difference between playing home and away these days with better pitches etc and it has narrowed results wise in all leagues since 1965. Plus they say that it is actually counter productive as the team at home in the first leg now seem to play more cautiously for fear of conceding an away goal Or perhaps they have seen advanced warning of the lockdown plans for the next 10 years! Empty stadia will return so its a great leveller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 They'll be suggesting silver and golden goals next!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 Don’t know why they just don’t go back to what it was before when it was just the champions in it,then we can have another tournament for the 2nd 3rd and 4th teams and still keep the European conference league or whatever it’s called now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 Disappointed this rule has gone, there’s nothing more thrilling than when a single goal is the difference between qualification and elimination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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