CyderInACan Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Surely this deserves it's own thread. Huge game for us later against a German team who do seem vulnerable at times. Slightly awkward 5pm KO so hopefully everyone can get home from work/to the pub in time for a pre-match pint or two to calm the nerves. Can Kane break his Euro2020 duck? Will Grealish start or will he be kept fresh for later in the game? Can Sterling notch again? After Magic Monday, surely it'll be a dull game? C'mon England https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57611058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 I'm at work, have cleaners in until 530 at least. On the plus side, I will be watching the first half in an air conditioned (if I want it) school hall on a 70" TV whilst "mopping" the floor. Leave at half time, get home just in time for the second half. We'll probably lose because Southgate is a plank and we're England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Come on England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 I've tried for the last week to buy tickets and had so many problems with the UEFA site on various devices so I'm a bit annoyed with it all already Heading to the fan park in Trafalger Square instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Surely this deserves it's own thread. Huge game for us later against a German team who do seem vulnerable at times. Slightly awkward 5pm KO so hopefully everyone can get home from work/to the pub in time for a pre-match pint or two to calm the nerves. Can Kane break his Euro2020 duck? Will Grealish start or will he be kept fresh for later in the game? Can Sterling notch again? After Magic Monday, surely it'll be a dull game? C'mon England https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57611058 Totally different games tonight. The sheer arrogance of France (don't you just love it when a team like Switzerland, totally and unjustly disrespected by the fawning media, hands them their arse?) and Spain ironically contributed to two amazing games yesterday. England, Germany, Ukraine, Sweden - I'm not spotting much arrogance there and it will be two very hard fought games of football with nothing like the entertainment we got yesterday. Tbh honest though it's irrelevant, we're in knockout football and Gareth has to get the result using whatever means it takes. Can I also ask that the constantly negative posters, on this occasion, leave the rest of us to enjoy the build up to the game today and at least wait and see if we get beat tonight before boring the rest of us and kicking off? Or is that too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 3-5-2 hit them on the break. Let’s hope it works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 "I would never describe England as Germany's biggest rivals," former player Dietmar Hamann told the Daily Telegraph this week. "Our big rivals have always been seen as the most likely to challenge us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Gazred said: "I would never describe England as Germany's biggest rivals," former player Dietmar Hamann told the Daily Telegraph this week. "Our big rivals have always been seen as the most likely to challenge us." Completely agree with him. A rivalry based on a war that nobody watching tonight were around for. Germany v England isn’t seen as a massive rivalry in Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, And Its Smith said: Completely agree with him. A rivalry based on a war that nobody watching tonight were around for. Germany v England isn’t seen as a massive rivalry in Germany Never about war for me, don't tar us all with the same brush thanks. They've nearly always bettered us on a football pitch, particularly at tournaments. Never forget 90, 96, we got a win before crashing out in 2000 but that's about it. We're due one surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Southgate won't change the team / formation much imo. Possibly Henderson in for Philips. Otherwise same line up as last game. 1 minute ago, Gazred said: Never about war for me, don't tar us all with the same brush thanks. They've nearly always bettered us on a football pitch, particularly at tournaments. Never forget 90, 96, we got a win before crashing out in 2000 but that's about it. We're due one surely. and 1970...Gerd Muller and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Totally different games tonight. The sheer arrogance of France (don't you just love it when a team like Switzerland, totally and unjustly disrespected by the fawning media, hands them their arse?) and Spain ironically contributed to two amazing games yesterday. England, Germany, Ukraine, Sweden - I'm not spotting much arrogance there and it will be two very hard fought games of football with nothing like the entertainment we got yesterday. Tbh honest though it's irrelevant, we're in knockout football and Gareth has to get the result using whatever means it takes. Can I also ask that the constantly negative posters, on this occasion, leave the rest of us to enjoy the build up to the game today and at least wait and see if we get beat tonight before boring the rest of us and kicking off? Or is that too much to ask? Can I ask how France showed this perceived arrogance? Glad they are out despite my name as it makes it slightly easier for us. Interested in the arrogance remark though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Completely agree with him. A rivalry based on a war that nobody watching tonight were around for. Germany v England isn’t seen as a massive rivalry in Germany So nobody in their 80s will be watching tonight ? Unbelievable comment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Southgate won't change the team / formation much imo. Possibly Henderson in for Philips. Otherwise same line up as last game. and 1970...Gerd Muller and all that. A smidge before my time but absolutely. We really are due one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Maybe I've just got carried away looking at our route to the final etc as well, but I fancy us tonight. I don't think Low is getting the best out of that Germany side, and I know Germany have a lack of options on the right hand side, but it feels like a waste playing arguably the best defensive midfielder in the world at wing back. Bit gutted Mount hasn't been training with the squad though, I think we could use that energy to help shut down Gundogan and Kroos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 54 minutes ago, Taz said: I'm at work, have cleaners in until 530 at least. On the plus side, I will be watching the first half in an air conditioned (if I want it) school hall on a 70" TV whilst "mopping" the floor. Leave at half time, get home just in time for the second half. We'll probably lose because Southgate is a plank and we're England. What, starting from now? You must have a big house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 If we can beat Germany today we have every chance of winning the tournament outright. Probably looking at Sweden in the QF and the Danes in the semis. Can't help but get a bit carried away with this one! Nervous and excited already for 5pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Surely this deserves it's own thread. Huge game for us later against a German team who do seem vulnerable at times. Slightly awkward 5pm KO so hopefully everyone can get home from work/to the pub in time for a pre-match pint or two to calm the nerves. Can Kane break his Euro2020 duck? Will Grealish start or will he be kept fresh for later in the game? Can Sterling notch again? After Magic Monday, surely it'll be a dull game? C'mon England https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57611058 Thanks for letting me know, I thought it was 8pm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 If you're going to the pub to watch the game, don't stand for the national anthem as per government advice. Balls, I'll be standing! Table booked for 5 at Lewinters restaurant in Newtownards. Come on England and someone wake Harry Kane up FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Completely agree with him. A rivalry based on a war that nobody watching tonight were around for. Germany v England isn’t seen as a massive rivalry in Germany I found this a really interesting read: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/25/england-germany-football-teams-tuesday-heartbreak Essentially the argument is that it's not a massive rivalry but it's still a big deal in Germany and a big game to Germans as much as to us. What I've found quite entertaining in the last few days is the fact that, on the one hand, there's the Ten German Bombers thread and all the jingoism from some England fans but, on the other hand, the impression from the German team, players and fans is that they actually quite like us! Fingers crossed we finally win for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, Gazred said: "I would never describe England as Germany's biggest rivals," former player Dietmar Hamann told the Daily Telegraph this week. "Our big rivals have always been seen as the most likely to challenge us." Was that before or after we beat them 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Completely agree with him. A rivalry based on a war that nobody watching tonight were around for. Germany v England isn’t seen as a massive rivalry in Germany It's a massive rivalry here. Putting the war aside (two wars actually), we've had some huge matches with them over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: Was that before or after we beat them 5 1 This is the thing though. Germany have won four World Cups and three European Championships. Since that game in 2001 they've reached six semi finals, been European Championship finalists twice, losing World Cup finalist once and one the World Cup one. And also won the Confederations Cup. Even with that 5 - 1 in the world cup qualifiers, they went on to do better in the World Cup itself than they did. They give as much of a shit about one ultimately inconsequential defeat twenty years ago as we do about losing to the Czech Republic in the European Championship qualifiers. Imagine a Northern Ireland supporter still talking about that 1 - 0 victory over us in 2005 and claiming Northern Ireland are major rivals to England as a result and you'll realise exactly how your post would sound to a German football fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I found this a really interesting read: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/25/england-germany-football-teams-tuesday-heartbreak Essentially the argument is that it's not a massive rivalry but it's still a big deal in Germany and a big game to Germans as much as to us. What I've found quite entertaining in the last few days is the fact that, on the one hand, there's the Ten German Bombers thread and all the jingoism from some England fans but, on the other hand, the impression from the German team, players and fans is that they actually quite like us! Fingers crossed we finally win for a change. That was really interesting. Thanks. Love the bit about the German diplomats thinking oh shit in 66, 20 years of hard work undone if they win, then promptly going off to the pub in relief to get pissed when they lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gazred said: That was really interesting. Thanks. Love the bit about the German diplomats thinking oh shit in 66, 20 years of hard work undone if they win, then promptly going off to the pub in relief to get pissed when they lost. That was my favourite bit too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 On the one occasion I've been to Germany, sailing down the river on a fairly boozy cruise, we all had great fun dancing with them to the German version of Three Lions. Should be a good atmosphere later with (I think) around 45,000 in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 I think England have a great relationship with Germany these days, which is why no one minds a bit of lighthearted banter. They're said to love the Fawlty Towers episode about the Germans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: I think England have a great relationship with Germany these days, which is why no one minds a bit of lighthearted banter. They're said to love the Fawlty Towers episode about the Germans A peerless comedy - although watching the Germans episode the other week it did seem a bit cringe nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, CyderInACan said: A peerless comedy - although watching the Germans episode the other week it did seem a bit cringe nowadays. It is a classic series. I haven't seen it for donkey's years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sheene Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said: This is the thing though. Germany have won four World Cups and three European Championships. Since that game in 2001 they've reached six semi finals, been European Championship finalists twice, losing World Cup finalist once and one the World Cup one. And also won the Confederations Cup. Even with that 5 - 1 in the world cup qualifiers, they went on to do better in the World Cup itself than they did. They give as much of a shit about one ultimately inconsequential defeat twenty years ago as we do about losing to the Czech Republic in the European Championship qualifiers. Imagine a Northern Ireland supporter still talking about that 1 - 0 victory over us in 2005 and claiming Northern Ireland are major rivals to England as a result and you'll realise exactly how your post would sound to a German football fan. Get where your coming from and would accept the 1-0 defeat in euro 2000 is not one they would remember but getting beat at home 1-5 by England hurt them massively at the time and would still hurt them now. A bit like our 6-0 home defeat by Cardiff gone but very much not forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, MarcusX said: Heading to the fan park in Trafalger Square instead Very jealous. I didn't get in through the ballot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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