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I really struggle with this . We have never had the midfield talent available to us as we have today yet our midfield is missing . This is tactics . Not one of them plays like this at club level . 3 defenders at that back marking one.  so we are short in the middle . Hopeless long balls as there are no padding options . It’s 1980s stuff.  Germany are so beatable no doubt . I look at the quality and experience of the coaches at other teams and think of Southgate and Boro . It is a criminal waste of talent . Is Rice on the field ? On what basis do you drop Grealish . Harry Kane has had zero service in 5 games . 
 

Tactics and personnel are wrong we can be much much better . We have players who perform and win at the best clubs . This retro approach is sad . 

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6 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Agree. I'd say Germany have much more space in that area. England don't have much space in that area of the pitch up the other end.

Yep. They’re playing almost a 5-2-2-1, with high wingbacks. Our 2 DM’s are picking their 2 CM’s, leaving their 2 AM’s in space between, and obvs none of our CB’s are gonna come too high with them. 

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4 minutes ago, Harry said:

I think we’ve done ok. But there’s just a couple of worrying signs. Our 2 DM’s aren’t locating their 2 AM’s at all. And Kane is virtually anonymous bar the last 2 minutes. 

Rice doesn’t reposition himself quickly enough after Pickford kicks long…dawdles back into the centre.  First 15 mins 3 CBSs marking Werner, leaving 3 on 2 v Rice and Phillips.  Sorted that though.

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1 minute ago, Lrrr said:

A confident/in form Kane takes that first time or his touch is better to stop it closer to him to get a shot away on the next touch

I think he is dilieratley stepping inside the GK. But agree in best form the touch would be tighter. 

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We’ve been gifted a route to the final two tournaments in a row but unfortunately we have a complete clown in charge, my boy is at the game and he text to say that Kane is barely moving and way off the pace, get our match winners on ffs

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Just now, Davefevs said:

Rice doesn’t reposition himself quickly enough after Pickford kicks long…dawdles back into the centre.  First 15 mins 3 CBSs marking Werner, leaving 3 on 2 v Rice and Phillips.  Sorted that though.

Can you get stats on England games? Pickford disruption has bee fantastic even when kicking long. Can't remember him missing the man once. 

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Just now, billywedlock said:

I really struggle with this . We have never had the midfield talent available to us as we have today yet our midfield is missing . This is tactics . Not one of them plays like this at club level . 3 defenders at that back marking one.  so we are short in the middle . Hopeless long balls as there are no padding options . It’s 1980s stuff.  Germany are so beatable no doubt . I look at the quality and experience of the coaches at other teams and think of Southgate and Boro . It is a criminal waste of talent . Is Rice on the field ? On what basis do you drop Grealish . Harry Kane has had zero service in 5 games . 
 

Tactics and personnel are wrong we can be much much better . We have players who perform and win at the best clubs . This retro approach is sad . 

Yep. Spot on.

What worries with this game is the use of subs and change of shape. Two midfielders on yellows is a massive risk.
 

Can’t see quite how we can change things about easily.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Harry said:

Yep. They’re playing almost a 5-2-2-1, with high wingbacks. Our 2 DM’s are on picking their 2 CM’s, leaving their 2 AM’s in space between, and obvs none of our CB’s are gonna come too high with them. 

Yeah. I think Southgate has lost the tactical battle so far. Germany had the biggest chance but should have had more. England look a threat at times but Germany look like they know how to score against us and just a matter of time if this continues imo

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1 minute ago, BCFC Richard said:

Can you get stats on England games? Pickford disruption has bee fantastic even when kicking long. Can't remember him missing the man once. 

He makes too many mistakes at club level, but something has happen between the end of the season and this tournament, he looks a completely different keeper so composed and as you say his distribution has been top draw,

 

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Ah, the joys of the Match Day thread - the keenness to jump on mistakes, blame everything, the shape, the team, etc.  Sometimes teams start well, sometimes they don’t.  Overall we’ve been the better team.  A couple of little worries, but we are playing against a good team who won’t let us have it our own way all the time.

Over at EMIB (Eine Mannschaft im Berlin) you should read the comments:

Mein Gott, Hummels is scheiße, Löw isn’t ein nöbber, Werner hast ein klein Wiener.  😉

Would you play an alleged 3-4-3 but pick two full backs rather than the two wing backs we have in the squad though?

Trippier and Shaw have offered nothing going forward compared to the threat James and Chilwell pose.

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Just now, chinapig said:

Would you play an alleged 3-4-3 but pick two full backs rather than the two wing backs we have in the squad though?

Trippier and Shaw have offered nothing going forward compared to the threat James and Chilwell pose.

Tripper has been alright to be honest

Shaw may as well be playing centre back

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