daored Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Apparently due to take over at palace. Strange appointment. Big gamble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 10 hours ago, daored said: Apparently due to take over at palace. Strange appointment. Big gamble It’s no more of a gamble than appointing Dean Holden?! Seriously though, Vieira has some interesting experience - he was head of youth development at Man City before being appointed as the manager of their ‘Elite Development Squad’ (basically their reserves!) and then he took over at New York City - took them from 17th to a 4th placed finish and then a 2nd placed finish in his two seasons there - interestingly his first signing for New York was Jack Harrison - and that was before Man City snapped him up, so PV obviously has an eye for a player. Then he went to Nice and took them to a 7th placed finish in his first season in charge, which was an improvement for the club on their previous season. So he has management experience in three different countries and has been relatively successful. Not so strange then? He has an infinitely better CV than most of our club’s zillion managers between Coppell and Pearson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 12 hours ago, daored said: Apparently due to take over at palace. Strange appointment. Big gamble Quite odd indeed. I find him incredibly boring in the studio. Hope he can motivate players; i have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WirralRobin Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 20 hours ago, daored said: Apparently due to take over at palace. Strange appointment. Big gamble Has big 'Frank De Boer' vibes about it for me.... Always like Vieira though so hope it works out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Been a very odd summer in terms of managerial appointments, especially in the Prem. Tottenham, Everton & Palace have all struggled to bring someone in, whilst in our division West Brom had their issues, too. As for Vieira he does seem a big risk, his spells in France & America were ok, though I’m sure Nice were struggling when he left so you cannot avoid the conclusion that someone with less of a stellar playing career wouldn’t be getting the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 Was a fantastic footballer who played at top level for so long, and now a good pundit, but we have seen time and time again being a great player does not mean you are a great manager… agree other comments bit of a strange one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It’s no more of a gamble than appointing Dean Holden?! Seriously though, Vieira has some interesting experience - he was head of youth development at Man City before being appointed as the manager of their ‘Elite Development Squad’ (basically their reserves!) and then he took over at New York City - took them from 17th to a 4th placed finish and then a 2nd placed finish in his two seasons there - interestingly his first signing for New York was Jack Harrison - and that was before Man City snapped him up, so PV obviously has an eye for a player. Then he went to Nice and took them to a 7th placed finish in his first season in charge, which was an improvement for the club on their previous season. So he has management experience in three different countries and has been relatively successful. Not so strange then? He has an infinitely better CV than most of our club’s zillion managers between Coppell and Pearson... It’s a strange appointment in the sense of Palace have known Hodgson was leaving for a while. Clearly, Vieira wasn’t their first choice as if he was he would have been appointed much earlier. Agree with @WirralRobinit has the feel of De Boer about it. Seems strange that so many clubs are struggling to appoint their first choice manager, Celtic, Spurs and Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 41 minutes ago, daored said: Seems strange that so many clubs are struggling to appoint their first choice manager, Celtic, Spurs and Palace The common factor seems to be that candidates are being told they won't have big money to spend. Certainly appears to be why Conte turned down Spurs (and why he left Inter) and why Favre changed his mind at the last minute about joining Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 45 minutes ago, daored said: It’s a strange appointment in the sense of Palace have known Hodgson was leaving for a while. Clearly, Vieira wasn’t their first choice as if he was he would have been appointed much earlier. Agree with @WirralRobinit has the feel of De Boer about it. Seems strange that so many clubs are struggling to appoint their first choice manager, Celtic, Spurs and Palace That is a good point - managers used to actively seek out roles in this country, they couldn't wait to get over here, now, as you say, some big clubs just can’t get their preferred choices. However, first choice isn’t always best, after all, David Jason wasn’t the first choice actor to be Del Boy in Only Fools and Horses and Nicholas Lyndhurst wasn’t the first choice actor to be Rodney - but can you imagine that programme without them if the ones who topped the lists had taken those roles?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: That is a good point - managers used to actively seek out roles in this country, they couldn't wait to get over here, now, as you say, some big clubs just can’t get their preferred choices. However, first choice isn’t always best, after all, David Jason wasn’t the first choice actor to be Del Boy in Only Fools and Horses and Nicholas Lyndhurst wasn’t the first choice actor to be Rodney - but can you imagine that programme without them if the ones who topped the lists had taken those roles?! We’ve had plenty of Rodney’s at this club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, daored said: It’s a strange appointment in the sense of Palace have known Hodgson was leaving for a while. Clearly, Vieira wasn’t their first choice as if he was he would have been appointed much earlier. Agree with @WirralRobinit has the feel of De Boer about it. Seems strange that so many clubs are struggling to appoint their first choice manager, Celtic, Spurs and Palace 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: That is a good point - managers used to actively seek out roles in this country, they couldn't wait to get over here, now, as you say, some big clubs just can’t get their preferred choices. However, first choice isn’t always best, after all, David Jason wasn’t the first choice actor to be Del Boy in Only Fools and Horses and Nicholas Lyndhurst wasn’t the first choice actor to be Rodney - but can you imagine that programme without them if the ones who topped the lists had taken those roles?! Listened to a bit of Simon Jordan on Talksport yesterday when Jim White threw Viera’s pending appointment at him as “breaking news” and asked for his reaction. SJ described it as a “brave appointment” after the succession of experienced managers that have bought Palace premier league stability. Reacting to more experienced managers not being in the frame for this and other jobs recently, SJ speculated that perhaps in the current situation experienced managers are being put off when owners tell them what funds are/are not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 23 hours ago, daored said: Apparently due to take over at palace. Strange appointment. Big gamble All managerial appointments are a gamble - unless it’s Pep of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted June 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: All managerial appointments are a gamble - unless it’s Pep of course. True, but he hasn’t won what he was brought in to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 I find two about an hour before does the trick.......oh uhmm,sorry..... misread the title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Slacker said: I find two about any hour before does the trick.......oh uhmm,sorry..... misread the title! Two ?? My sympathies mate- my wife's no oil painting either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Two ?? My sympathies mate- my wife's no oil painting either I know.I need four with her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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