freezer Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Maybe missed it but don't think there's a thread for this. If not, why not? It seems that all the important officials for this game are German, apart from the fourth official. That worries me as I feel we have to not only win the game but potentially 'over win' the game. Hope it's officiated in a fair manner and not dealt with like a footballing version of the shocking and unfair version of Eurovision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 With Rice and Phillips both one booking away from being suspended, I think we’ll see Henderson come in for this one. I reckon Saka will be dropped. Not a clue who for though… bit of a tombola for that one position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Why does it matter the officials are German And Henderson's yes has more big experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, freezer said: Maybe missed it but don't think there's a thread for this. If not, why not? It seems that all the important officials for this game are German, apart from the fourth official. That worries me as I feel we have to not only win the game but potentially 'over win' the game. Hope it's officiated in a fair manner and not dealt with like a footballing version of the shocking and unfair version of Eurovision. Would you like to explain, be more explicit, concerning your worry about Germain officials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Grealish has to start. Probably for Saka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Would you like to explain, be more explicit, concerning your worry about Germain officials? I assume the concern is a form of retribution for us knocking them out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Slacker said: I assume the concern is a form of retribution for us knocking them out? Makes no sense to me, though. I always feel the opposite. If the team who knocks you out goes on to win, you can tell yourself you were unlucky to draw them so early on but reassure yourself losing to them wasn’t a terrible result. If the team who knocks you out goes out next round, it just makes you look even more rubbish. I always want the team that knocks England out to go on and win for that reason. Can’t see why any German fans would want us out next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Lew-T said: With Rice and Phillips both one booking away from being suspended, I think we’ll see Henderson come in for this one. I reckon Saka will be dropped. Not a clue who for though… bit of a tombola for that one position. Yellows get wiped out at QF stage don't they or is it after? Either way I think Mount may also be team. Possibly for Saka with Grealish coming on after an hour again. Henderson for Phillips isn't a bad shout, he did look a bit leggy at end of the Germany game. 9 hours ago, freezer said: It seems that all the important officials for this game are German We've won 5 out of 6 games with this ref. Lets face it if we can't beat Ukraine, we shouldn't be blaming it on the officials.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 England should be too strong for Ukraine regardless of who starts but it’s a one off game and an upset won’t be the first in this Euros………….. Im cautiously optimistic but won’t be surprised if extra time is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, TomF said: Yellows get wiped out at QF stage don't they or is it after? Either way I think Mount may also be team. Possibly for Saka with Grealish coming on after an hour again. Henderson for Phillips isn't a bad shout, he did look a bit leggy at end of the Germany game. We've won 5 out of 6 games with this ref. Lets face it if we can't beat Ukraine, we shouldn't be blaming it on the officials.. Yellow cards are wiped out AFTER the quarter finals, so should any players currently on a yellow card receive another one tomorrow they would miss the semi final. Only a red card received in the the semi final would see a player banned from the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Makes no sense to me, though. I always feel the opposite. If the team who knocks you out goes on to win, you can tell yourself you were unlucky to draw them so early on but reassure yourself losing to them wasn’t a terrible result. If the team who knocks you out goes out next round, it just makes you look even more rubbish. I always want the team that knocks England out to go on and win for that reason. Can’t see why any German fans would want us out next round. I can certainly see your logic but if Germany had beaten us,I would love to see them slaughtered in the next round.To be honest,Germany are just one of those teams that I always want to see get beaten.Along with France,Wales, Scotland,Argentina........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I wonder about the full backs. We'll go to 4 at the back which means at least one of Shaw Trippier and Walker will miss out and probably Mount come in. The full backs situation is like a carousel - maybe the lesser spotted Chilwell will appear out of hibernation? The other likely change is Saka for Foden maybe or Sancho? I think he needs to change it up a little - there needs to be some freshness. Its not as if we have a nailed on starting 11. I'd say 5 are absolutely nailed on (Pickford, Stones, Maguire, Sterling, Kane) with the others potentially being open to replacement / rotation. Rice & Phillips have played every game but a fit Henderson would certainly be rotated with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Would you like to explain, be more explicit, concerning your worry about Germain officials? I don't think the fact they are German makes much difference. Pretty much every country hates us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Mad Cyril said: I don't think the fact they are German makes much difference. Pretty much every country hates us. It’s a shame the referee isn’t Russian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Would you like to explain, be more explicit, concerning your worry about Germain officials? I seems since we left their little EU club they seem to do everything they can to take revenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Play your strongest team and don't underestimate Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 31 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I seems since we left their little EU club they seem to do everything they can to take revenge Hysterical nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: I don't think the fact they are German makes much difference. Pretty much every country hates us. Come on Cyril, you’ve got to let the Eurovision result go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Baffled why the nationality of an impartial ref would make any difference. Maybe says something about the people that are worried! I would take a slight risk and rest Phillips, bringing in Henderson. Would also play Grealish and not Saka. Pickford Walker. Stones. Maguire. Shaw Foden. Henderson. Mount Sterling. Kane. Grealish Southgate will certainly not play that midfield though! Can hardly moan at his selection either after what he’s done so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Slacker said: I can certainly see your logic but if Germany had beaten us,I would love to see them slaughtered in the next round.To be honest,Germany are just one of those teams that I always want to see get beaten.Along with France,Wales, Scotland,Argentina........... You forgot the gas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, pillred said: You forgot the gas! Easily done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Robbored said: England should be too strong for Ukraine regardless of who starts but it’s a one off game and an upset won’t be the first in this Euros………….. Im cautiously optimistic but won’t be surprised if extra time is required. Those of us of a certain vintage can only agree this will not be a walk in the park; knock out games are a great leveller. Dodgy sending off, injuries and fatigue all play a big part Having endured the Iceland match, aged 5 years when we played Cameroon in a World cup game and Beckham's sending off against Argentina no chickens are being counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Declan rice had massive cramp problems late in the German game & it’s a quicker turnaround. Wouldn’t be surprised if we went back to 433 . Walker & rice coming out replaced by mount & Henderson . Pickford trippier Stones. Maguire Shaw Henderson. Philips Mount Saka/sancho Kane. Sterling Id like to see Foden back in but yellow card may stop that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 All match officials are German Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I was quietly optimistic going into the Germany game, but can't shake nagging feeling we're going to make real hard work of it against Ukraine. First game away from Wembley, none of our fans allowed to travel, and a feeling Southgate will stick with the two defensive midfielders. For me it should be (4-3-3): Pickford; Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw; Mount, Henderson, Foden; Saka, Kane, Sterling. It won't happen, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 hours ago, freezer said: Maybe missed it but don't think there's a thread for this. If not, why not? It seems that all the important officials for this game are German, apart from the fourth official. That worries me as I feel we have to not only win the game but potentially 'over win' the game. Hope it's officiated in a fair manner and not dealt with like a footballing version of the shocking and unfair version of Eurovision. Looks ok with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Where are those Russian Linesmen when you need them ? (Actually he was from Azerbaijan) This game has got banana skin written allover it. Im more nervous the the Germany game, and i fully expect to be watching the game in the foetal position.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 Note to Gareth Southgate Make sure you tell all the players don't give free kicks away "JUST" outside the penalty area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATT BCFC Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I'd be tempted to keep with the 3-4-3 but bring Mount in for one of the holding midfielders and I would start Grealish instead of Saka but wouldn't be top dissapointed to see Saka get another start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 I think we will be full of confidence now and it's very good news that Kane has scored. I think this will be a relatively straightforward win and Kane will get a couple. I think the team might be something like this: Pickford, Walker, Maguire, Stones, Shaw Bellingham, Henderson Mount Sterling, Kane, Grealish It's possible he won't change both CMs but I suspect he will be very aware they're both on bookings. Grealish deserves a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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