where's the joy Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 if the big money is in players who score goals and you are a selling club why don't you specialise in strikers? why breed full backs or wingers if the big cash is in the goal getters attic? even the gas have sold off a string of goal scorers over the years, while we seem content to spread our betting across all positions. I can see some logic to it but why not build a squad of strikers and maximise the cash generation how would you change things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 It would certainly be nice to have one for the first team. As things stand, I can't see us scoring many goals this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Because in order to develop one striker, you need to have 10 other players of his age group, plus subs if he is to play any kind of competitive game at youth level. Then you need at least enough others to provide opposition in training. So to develop your stable of strikers we would need to have 30 or so other young lads in each age group. Naturally one or two of those will show enough promise in his own position to warrant first team football, and then a sale, of his own. Players do not play in isolation, and they are not developed in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, where's the joy said: if the big money is in players who score goals and you are a selling club why don't you specialise in strikers? why breed full backs or wingers if the big cash is in the goal getters attic? even the gas have sold off a string of goal scorers over the years, while we seem content to spread our betting across all positions. I can see some logic to it but why not build a squad of strikers and maximise the cash generation how would you change things? Who do you suggest as the breeding couples? It'll be 20 years or so before we reap the benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Or someone on our scouting staff who know a good striker when they see one. As the op has stated, other clubs find them and move them on for good profits. It's an area we've always fallen short of in my whole time of watching City. Perhaps it's the heat but I can't recall a striker that we've brought up through the ranks and sold at a profit, since Chris Garland, one that's turned out to be any good. I know we've brought in some and resold but can't think of anyone that's come through the ranks. Waiting for the long list now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rich said: Or someone on our scouting staff who know a good striker when they see one. As the op has stated, other clubs find them and move them on for good profits. It's an area we've always fallen short of in my whole time of watching City. Perhaps it's the heat but I can't recall a striker that we've brought up through the ranks and sold at a profit, since Chris Garland, one that's turned out to be any good. I know we've brought in some and resold but can't think of anyone that's come through the ranks. Waiting for the long list now. Bobby Reid would be the latest. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rich said: Or someone on our scouting staff who know a good striker when they see one. As the op has stated, other clubs find them and move them on for good profits. It's an area we've always fallen short of in my whole time of watching City. Perhaps it's the heat but I can't recall a striker that we've brought up through the ranks and sold at a profit, since Chris Garland, one that's turned out to be any good. I know we've brought in some and resold but can't think of anyone that's come through the ranks. Waiting for the long list now. It’s certainly not an area we specialise in is it.. I suppose you could make a case for Bobby Reid being a homegrown striker we sold on for a sizeable profit but as we all know he isn’t naturally a striker as such is he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Simon79 said: Bobby Reid would be the latest. COYR I'll give you him, even if he's not a proper striker, as in, one of two. He plays more like a roaming attacking midfielder really, apart from the first half of the season 17/18 was it? Any more? It is poor how few we have produced over the last 50 odd years, when you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Our current crop of out and out strikers may well have a gem. Only takes one of Bell, Conway or Britton to have a big season in 2 or 3 years and they’ll be worth 10 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Rich said: I'll give you him, even if he's not a proper striker, as in, one of two. He plays more like a roaming attacking midfielder really, apart from the first half of the season 17/18 was it? Any more? It is poor how few we have produced over the last 50 odd years, when you think about it. Totally agree. We had the Plummers in the 90’s I think, who never made the grade but were highly thought of. It’s certainly a reoccurring theme with City. Hopefully this latest batch will break the mould. Is it the most difficult position to break into & hold down as a youngster? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Nolan Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Peter Spiring was an odd one, sold to Liverpool for £60k and never seen again. Can remember him going in for a tackle with a defender and the ball burst. Can't remember him scoring many goals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Isn’t that basically Peterborough’s model ps we’ve sold 2 strikers in the past 5 years for more than the gas have made, and bought, from stickers in their entire history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 hours ago, where's the joy said: if the big money is in players who score goals and you are a selling club why don't you specialise in strikers? why breed full backs or wingers if the big cash is in the goal getters attic? even the gas have sold off a string of goal scorers over the years, while we seem content to spread our betting across all positions. I can see some logic to it but why not build a squad of strikers and maximise the cash generation how would you change things? Who's been our biggest outgoing sale and what position did he play..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Who's been our biggest outgoing sale and what position did he play..? And this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Rich said: I'll give you him, even if he's not a proper striker, as in, one of two. He plays more like a roaming attacking midfielder really, apart from the first half of the season 17/18 was it? Any more? It is poor how few we have produced over the last 50 odd years, when you think about it. Turbo 2 lita! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 hours ago, where's the joy said: if the big money is in players who score goals and you are a selling club why don't you specialise in strikers? why breed full backs or wingers if the big cash is in the goal getters attic? even the gas have sold off a string of goal scorers over the years, while we seem content to spread our betting across all positions. I can see some logic to it but why not build a squad of strikers and maximise the cash generation how would you change things? The gas sold their striker Barry Hayles to Fulham for £2million - we sold our defender Lloyd Kelly to Bournemouth for £13million - what’s your point?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 10 hours ago, where's the joy said: if the big money is in players who score goals and you are a selling club why don't you specialise in strikers? why breed full backs or wingers if the big cash is in the goal getters attic? even the gas have sold off a string of goal scorers over the years, while we seem content to spread our betting across all positions. I can see some logic to it but why not build a squad of strikers and maximise the cash generation how would you change things? I think we could be seeing a change with our current young guns, just give em a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 17 hours ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said: Turbo 2 lita! Good player but, he came through the Chelsea youth system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Zip Nolan said: Peter Spiring was an odd one, sold to Liverpool for £60k and never seen again. Can remember him going in for a tackle with a defender and the ball burst. Can't remember him scoring many goals though. Strange, I always remember it as £50k. Think he went from Liverpool to Luton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 17 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: The gas sold their striker Barry Hayles to Fulham for £2million - we sold our defender Lloyd Kelly to Bournemouth for £13million - what’s your point?! I though I must add that there's been an awful lot of inflation between 1998 and 2019, when their respective transfers took place. Might well be that Hayles would have fetched a lot more in 2019, particularly with the premiership awash with money then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 18 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Who's been our biggest outgoing sale and what position did he play..? If he'd been a striker, how much would we have got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Rich said: If he'd been a striker, how much would we have got? If you are talking about LK, then probably not very much at all as his goal scoring record was pretty poor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Rich said: If he'd been a striker, how much would we have got? With his goal. Scoring record, probably not very much..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: If you are talking about LK, then probably not very much at all as his goal scoring record was pretty poor . I was talking about Webster, but yes, LK also went for a massive amount of money. More than most of the strikers we've sold..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 22/07/2021 at 16:37, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Who do you suggest as the breeding couples? It'll be 20 years or so before we reap the benefit. Shearer and white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 From way back to Galley, Garland, Ritchie we have always sold good strikers, to progress we must hang on to them. We sell our assets like most clubs, I dont hold out much hope of our current crop taking us anywhere much, but hang on and hope NP can make a silk purse out of sows ear....wont be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 We are allegedly looking at a Bulgarian youngster , banging them in in his country , Bakov Denet , allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Major Isewater said: We are allegedly looking at a Bulgarian youngster , banging them in in his country , Bakov Denet , allegedly. Also a young Russian playing for Dynamo Kiev, Innov Zepostski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 24, 2021 Report Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Rich said: Also a young Russian playing for Dynamo Kiev, Innov Zepostski. I did see a rumour that we were after a poacher of Nigerian descent playing in France, Enoch T'Dinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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