Ska Junkie Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, myol'man said: Day two; The prosecution's opening statements have begun this morning and evidence from Daniel Stendel is expected to follow. Joey threatened him yet? Surely only matter of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Ska Junkie said: Joey threatened him yet? Surely only matter of time? I for one will be disappointed if he doesn`t jump out of the dock and take the judge hostage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I for one will be disappointed if he doesn`t jump out of the dock and take the judge hostage. Live footage: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 A football manager has told a jury how the only person he saw after he was shoved into a metal post in the tunnel after a League One match, injuring his face, was rival coach Joey Barton. Daniel Stendel was giving evidence at the trial of former England international Barton who is accused of assaulting the German coach at the end of a match between Barnsley and Fleetwood Town, at the South Yorkshire team’s Oakwell Stadium, on April 13 2019. At the time, Mr Stendel was managing Barnsley, who won the match 4-2, and Barton was in charge of Fleetwood Town. Giving evidence through an interpreter at Sheffield Crown Court on Monday, Mr Stendel described how he was walking down the tunnel towards the dressing rooms when he was surprised by a push from behind. I felt the pain and I briefly looked up. I thought that someone would actually help me. I lifted my head and I just saw one person and it was Joey Barton, who walked around the corner. That was the only person that I saw He said: “I got a hard shove on my right shoulder. “Because I hadn’t expected it, I couldn’t react very quickly. “I then fell forward, without being able to protect myself, into the metal bars in the tunnel.” Asked by Ian Goldsack, prosecuting, how hard the push was, Mr Stendel told the jury of seven women and five men: “I’m quite tall and quite sporty. So, it was more than a normal push. “It was a forceful shove, otherwise wouldn’t have fallen over” He said: “I couldn’t stay on my feet.” Asked what happened immediately after he was injured, Mr Stendel said: “I felt the pain and I briefly looked up. I thought that someone would actually help me. “I lifted my head and I just saw one person and it was Joey Barton, who walked around the corner. “That was the only person that I saw.” Asked by Simon Csoka QC, defending, whether he had “just assumed that it was Mr Barton” due to tensions in the match before, Mr Stendel said: “I can only say that I was pushed extremely. “And directly after that happened I saw Joey Barton. These are the two things I can say.” Mr Stendel told the jury about an incident at the previous fixture between the two teams, at Fleetwood, in September 2018. He said Barton was intimidating towards him after that game, which was also won by Barnsley, and squashed his hand during the post-match handshake. The coach said: “The usual handshake was more of a squash-my-hand than shake hands.” He said that was “very unusual” and “it had never happened to me before”. After the goal, he came to our bench and had a go at me saying I shouldn't celebrate the goals like that. He was annoyed and aggressive Mr Stendel said that when the teams met again in April 2019, he was surprised how normal the atmosphere was after what happened seven months before. He confirmed that his Barnsley team led 2-0 at half-time and there were more goals in the second half. Asked if he had any contact with Barton during the second half, he said: “After the goal, he came to our bench and had a go at me saying I shouldn’t celebrate the goals like that.” He said: “He was annoyed and aggressive.” Mr Stendel added: “I just said I was pleased about our goal. I wasn’t against him or his team.” He said he was in contact with Barton again after the final whistle: “In the second half the atmosphere had got a bit tense. “I didn’t really know if there was going to be a shake-hands. We approached each other and I went to give him my hand shake. “He was very annoyed and aggressive. As far as I could understand, he was swearing at me.” Mr Stendel said he tried to reason with Barton but “he continued swearing at me”. The jury was shown video footage of Mr Stendel leaving the pitch after the match and walking into the tunnel at the corner of the ground. The footage shows Barton running into the tunnel shortly after and the structure shaking slightly a moment later. A different camera caught Mr Stendel being carried towards the dressing rooms with blood on his face. Mr Stendel said one of his teeth was bent backwards in the collision with the metal post to the extent he thought he had lost it. He said he also suffered bruising to his arm, hand and knee. Opening the prosecution earlier, Mr Goldsack told the jury that Barton provided a prepared statement to police after he as arrested in which he accepted using “industrial language” on the touchline but denied barging into or assaulting Mr Stendel in the tunnel. Barton, who is now Bristol Rovers manager, denies one count of assault occasioning actual bodily harm. He sat in the dock wearing a dark blue suit, a lighter blue shirt and a dark tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, Coombsy said: A football manager has told a jury how the only person he saw after he was shoved into a metal post in the tunnel after a League One match, injuring his face, was rival coach Joey Barton. Daniel Stendel was giving evidence at the trial of former England international Barton who is accused of assaulting the German coach at the end of a match between Barnsley and Fleetwood Town, at the South Yorkshire team’s Oakwell Stadium, on April 13 2019. At the time, Mr Stendel was managing Barnsley, who won the match 4-2, and Barton was in charge of Fleetwood Town. Giving evidence through an interpreter at Sheffield Crown Court on Monday, Mr Stendel described how he was walking down the tunnel towards the dressing rooms when he was surprised by a push from behind. I felt the pain and I briefly looked up. I thought that someone would actually help me. I lifted my head and I just saw one person and it was Joey Barton, who walked around the corner. That was the only person that I saw He said: “I got a hard shove on my right shoulder. “Because I hadn’t expected it, I couldn’t react very quickly. “I then fell forward, without being able to protect myself, into the metal bars in the tunnel.” Asked by Ian Goldsack, prosecuting, how hard the push was, Mr Stendel told the jury of seven women and five men: “I’m quite tall and quite sporty. So, it was more than a normal push. “It was a forceful shove, otherwise wouldn’t have fallen over” He said: “I couldn’t stay on my feet.” Asked what happened immediately after he was injured, Mr Stendel said: “I felt the pain and I briefly looked up. I thought that someone would actually help me. “I lifted my head and I just saw one person and it was Joey Barton, who walked around the corner. “That was the only person that I saw.” Asked by Simon Csoka QC, defending, whether he had “just assumed that it was Mr Barton” due to tensions in the match before, Mr Stendel said: “I can only say that I was pushed extremely. “And directly after that happened I saw Joey Barton. These are the two things I can say.” Mr Stendel told the jury about an incident at the previous fixture between the two teams, at Fleetwood, in September 2018. He said Barton was intimidating towards him after that game, which was also won by Barnsley, and squashed his hand during the post-match handshake. The coach said: “The usual handshake was more of a squash-my-hand than shake hands.” He said that was “very unusual” and “it had never happened to me before”. After the goal, he came to our bench and had a go at me saying I shouldn't celebrate the goals like that. He was annoyed and aggressive Mr Stendel said that when the teams met again in April 2019, he was surprised how normal the atmosphere was after what happened seven months before. He confirmed that his Barnsley team led 2-0 at half-time and there were more goals in the second half. Asked if he had any contact with Barton during the second half, he said: “After the goal, he came to our bench and had a go at me saying I shouldn’t celebrate the goals like that.” He said: “He was annoyed and aggressive.” Mr Stendel added: “I just said I was pleased about our goal. I wasn’t against him or his team.” He said he was in contact with Barton again after the final whistle: “In the second half the atmosphere had got a bit tense. “I didn’t really know if there was going to be a shake-hands. We approached each other and I went to give him my hand shake. “He was very annoyed and aggressive. As far as I could understand, he was swearing at me.” Mr Stendel said he tried to reason with Barton but “he continued swearing at me”. The jury was shown video footage of Mr Stendel leaving the pitch after the match and walking into the tunnel at the corner of the ground. The footage shows Barton running into the tunnel shortly after and the structure shaking slightly a moment later. A different camera caught Mr Stendel being carried towards the dressing rooms with blood on his face. Mr Stendel said one of his teeth was bent backwards in the collision with the metal post to the extent he thought he had lost it. He said he also suffered bruising to his arm, hand and knee. Opening the prosecution earlier, Mr Goldsack told the jury that Barton provided a prepared statement to police after he as arrested in which he accepted using “industrial language” on the touchline but denied barging into or assaulting Mr Stendel in the tunnel. Barton, who is now Bristol Rovers manager, denies one count of assault occasioning actual bodily harm. He sat in the dock wearing a dark blue suit, a lighter blue shirt and a dark tie. Hope that the judge remembers to bring his black cap to Joey’s sentencing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Joey's defence; It was handbags yer honour, bants, bit of pushing and shoving, goes on all the time in the tunnel after a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, myol'man said: Day two; .............in the (big) hoose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 21 years today innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Coombsy said: A football manager has told a jury how the only person he saw after he was shoved into a metal post in the tunnel after a League One match, injuring his face, was rival coach Joey Barton. Daniel Stendel was giving evidence at the trial of former England international Barton who is accused of assaulting the German coach at the end of a match between Barnsley and Fleetwood Town, at the South Yorkshire team’s Oakwell Stadium, on April 13 2019. At the time, Mr Stendel was managing Barnsley, who won the match 4-2, and Barton was in charge of Fleetwood Town. Giving evidence through an interpreter at Sheffield Crown Court on Monday, Mr Stendel described how he was walking down the tunnel towards the dressing rooms when he was surprised by a push from behind. I felt the pain and I briefly looked up. I thought that someone would actually help me. I lifted my head and I just saw one person and it was Joey Barton, who walked around the corner. That was the only person that I saw He said: “I got a hard shove on my right shoulder. “Because I hadn’t expected it, I couldn’t react very quickly. “I then fell forward, without being able to protect myself, into the metal bars in the tunnel.” Asked by Ian Goldsack, prosecuting, how hard the push was, Mr Stendel told the jury of seven women and five men: “I’m quite tall and quite sporty. So, it was more than a normal push. “It was a forceful shove, otherwise wouldn’t have fallen over” He said: “I couldn’t stay on my feet.” Asked what happened immediately after he was injured, Mr Stendel said: “I felt the pain and I briefly looked up. I thought that someone would actually help me. “I lifted my head and I just saw one person and it was Joey Barton, who walked around the corner. “That was the only person that I saw.” Asked by Simon Csoka QC, defending, whether he had “just assumed that it was Mr Barton” due to tensions in the match before, Mr Stendel said: “I can only say that I was pushed extremely. “And directly after that happened I saw Joey Barton. These are the two things I can say.” Mr Stendel told the jury about an incident at the previous fixture between the two teams, at Fleetwood, in September 2018. He said Barton was intimidating towards him after that game, which was also won by Barnsley, and squashed his hand during the post-match handshake. The coach said: “The usual handshake was more of a squash-my-hand than shake hands.” He said that was “very unusual” and “it had never happened to me before”. After the goal, he came to our bench and had a go at me saying I shouldn't celebrate the goals like that. He was annoyed and aggressive Mr Stendel said that when the teams met again in April 2019, he was surprised how normal the atmosphere was after what happened seven months before. He confirmed that his Barnsley team led 2-0 at half-time and there were more goals in the second half. Asked if he had any contact with Barton during the second half, he said: “After the goal, he came to our bench and had a go at me saying I shouldn’t celebrate the goals like that.” He said: “He was annoyed and aggressive.” Mr Stendel added: “I just said I was pleased about our goal. I wasn’t against him or his team.” He said he was in contact with Barton again after the final whistle: “In the second half the atmosphere had got a bit tense. “I didn’t really know if there was going to be a shake-hands. We approached each other and I went to give him my hand shake. “He was very annoyed and aggressive. As far as I could understand, he was swearing at me.” Mr Stendel said he tried to reason with Barton but “he continued swearing at me”. The jury was shown video footage of Mr Stendel leaving the pitch after the match and walking into the tunnel at the corner of the ground. The footage shows Barton running into the tunnel shortly after and the structure shaking slightly a moment later. A different camera caught Mr Stendel being carried towards the dressing rooms with blood on his face. Mr Stendel said one of his teeth was bent backwards in the collision with the metal post to the extent he thought he had lost it. He said he also suffered bruising to his arm, hand and knee. Opening the prosecution earlier, Mr Goldsack told the jury that Barton provided a prepared statement to police after he as arrested in which he accepted using “industrial language” on the touchline but denied barging into or assaulting Mr Stendel in the tunnel. Barton, who is now Bristol Rovers manager, denies one count of assault occasioning actual bodily harm. He sat in the dock wearing a dark blue suit, a lighter blue shirt and a dark tie. The jury was shown video footage of Mr Stendel leaving the pitch after the match and walking into the tunnel at the corner of the ground. The footage shows Barton running into the tunnel shortly after and the structure shaking slightly a moment later. A different camera caught Mr Stendel being carried towards the dressing rooms with blood on his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Marcus Aurelius said: The jury was shown video footage of Mr Stendel leaving the pitch after the match and walking into the tunnel at the corner of the ground. The footage shows Barton running into the tunnel shortly after and the structure shaking slightly a moment later. A different camera caught Mr Stendel being carried towards the dressing rooms with blood on his face. It might have been the six foot high grey squirrel that pushed him, he's often seen in tunnels by nutcases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 "Witness says he saw JB continue running down the tunnel and angle his run so that he deliberately charged into the Barnsley manager, asked if he was sure it was Barton he said yes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: "Witness says he saw JB continue running down the tunnel and angle his run so that he deliberately charged into the Barnsley manager, asked if he was sure it was Barton he said yes." Is that a witness other than Stendel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Is that a witness other than Stendel? It certainly is: 'Barnsley FC performance analyst intern Nathan Kirby told the jury he clearly saw Barton shoulder-barge Mr Stendel. Mr Kirby said he was walking just behind the manager when the defendant brushed his shoulder in the tunnel. He said: "Mr Barton carried on jogging and angled his run to shoulder-barge Mr Stendel with reasonable force in his back, causing Mr Stendel to fall forward and hit his face on a metal bar." Mr Kirby said: "It was clearly Mr Barton." Mr Goldsack asked him: "Are you in any doubt as to who it was who made contact?" Mr Kirby said: "No." Barnsley FC media officer Andrew White told the jury Barton was aggressive towards Mr Stendel at the end of the match. Mr White said: "Daniel is Daniel - harmless. The other gentleman was very angry." The witness said he did not hear what Mr Stendel said but he did hear the defendant. He said: "I heard the word German coming from Mr Barton. I heard the word c***."' https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joey-barton-trial-former-barnsley-6277202 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Stortz said: It certainly is: 'Barnsley FC performance analyst intern Nathan Kirby told the jury he clearly saw Barton shoulder-barge Mr Stendel. Mr Kirby said he was walking just behind the manager when the defendant brushed his shoulder in the tunnel. He said: "Mr Barton carried on jogging and angled his run to shoulder-barge Mr Stendel with reasonable force in his back, causing Mr Stendel to fall forward and hit his face on a metal bar." Mr Kirby said: "It was clearly Mr Barton." Mr Goldsack asked him: "Are you in any doubt as to who it was who made contact?" Mr Kirby said: "No." Barnsley FC media officer Andrew White told the jury Barton was aggressive towards Mr Stendel at the end of the match. Mr White said: "Daniel is Daniel - harmless. The other gentleman was very angry." The witness said he did not hear what Mr Stendel said but he did hear the defendant. He said: "I heard the word German coming from Mr Barton. I heard the word c***."' https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joey-barton-trial-former-barnsley-6277202 Pretty damning. Sags will say he's probably a City supporter and just saying it to get one over on him - probably put up to it by the rosy cheeked lady garden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizyer Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Stortz said: He said: "I heard the word German coming from Mr Barton. I heard the word c***." So, he used the guy's nationality as part of the abuse.....does that "aggravate" the original offence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Tomorrow the prosecution will unveil their star witness .. Wael Al Quadi " Yes I saw everything Barton deliberately shoved him, 100% certain, I was going to the dressing room to wish the lads well and saw everything. I swear it on the Qur'an." Afterwards Wally rings his lawyer " It went great, he's gone down, we can now fire him with no compensation!" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Bizyer said: So, he used the guy's nationality as part of the abuse.....does that "aggravate" the original offence? Whilst it gives a good background to the alleged event one guy's word was probably considered too flimsy to charge him with racially aggravated assault.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Whilst it gives a good background to the alleged event one guy's word was probably considered too flimsy to charge him with racially aggravated assault.......... Plus I’m not sure Germans would be classified in the act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 Joey’s got a real problem here. In his prepared statement he denied physical contact. We now have a witness saying it definitely happened, therefore he can’t really go back and claim it was accidental. I think he’s in real trouble here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Joey’s got a real problem here. In his prepared statement he denied physical contact. We now have a witness saying it definitely happened, therefore he can’t really go back and claim it was accidental. I think he’s in real trouble here. Best thing I've read on here tonight 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Galley is our king said: Best thing I've read on here tonight Don’t celebrate too soon. He’ll have a grossly overpaid QC representing him no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 He’s being represented by the bloke who defended Dale Creghan. For those of you who aren’t aware, that’s the bloke who made a bogus burglary call - PC’s Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone turned up and he murdered them using a gun and hand grenade. I have no further comment to make. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 I’ve just made the mistake of reading gaschat. Some of them really don’t want to accept that he might have done it. Embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’ve just made the mistake of reading gaschat. Some of them really don’t want to accept that he might have done it. Embarrassing. Is this possibly custodial territory considering his previous ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, VT05763 said: Is this possibly custodial territory considering his previous ? I’d be happy to bet £100 that he won’t go to prison. He has previous, but it’s very old plus he has a job and presumably dependents. So I’d say there’s little to no chance. If he were to be convicted however, that’d create a real problem for his domestic violence trial, which the courts take very seriously… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 We've only had the prosecution witnesses called so far. I'm sure Joey's defense will call lots of witnesses who will testify to his calm and gentle nature and tell us how they all saw what happened perfectly and Barton was simply rushing back to the coach because he was in hurry to go out and feed the homeless and, sadly, the ensuing gust of wind his sprint generated caused Stendel to blow over into a railing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: He’s being represented by the bloke who defended Dale Creghan. For those of you who aren’t aware, that’s the bloke who made a bogus burglary call - PC’s Nicola Hughes and Fiona Bone turned up and he murdered them using a gun and hand grenade. I have no further comment to make. It has always baffled me how anyone is happy to make a living defending the likes of Creghan. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’d be happy to bet £100 that he won’t go to prison. He has previous, but it’s very old plus he has a job and presumably dependents. So I’d say there’s little to no chance. If he were to be convicted however, that’d create a real problem for his domestic violence trial, which the courts take very seriously… Ah yes, makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 I have the sense that even if he’s found guilty, provided he’s not imprisoned, Wally will prevaricate over dismissing Barton. The Domestic Abuse case is the real problem for Joey. Found guilty there and he’ll never work in Football, or for Bristol Rovers, again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Stortz said: The witness said he did not hear what Mr Stendel said but he did hear the defendant. He said: "I heard the word German coming from Mr Barton. I heard the word c***."' I am not sure if calling someone Craut is racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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