slartibartfast Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, myol'man said: I see one member of the jury has received a red card, no change there then! I wonder if he'll get a (fixed) penalty ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 20,000 my arse. “Build it and they will come”. They probably already are. Their poor sisters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 As with many things the devil is in the detail. The entire site is 11 acres which, in addition to the Rovers new stadium, will have residential buildings, restaurants and other entertainment venues. When these and access roads are built into the site it won’t leave much room for a football stadium. A typical football pitch with the surrounding grass, excluding stands, is approximately 2 acres. Ashton Vale was 42 acres and when the council only registered 17 acres as a town and village green, it still left 25 acres for City’s new ground. What Rovers will get is a parcel of land just big enough for a pitch and some basic small stands. There will be insufficient room to generate any meaningful non match day revenue, as done by City with exhibitions and conferences, assuming that it’s allowed under the terms of the lease, which isn’t certain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 A couple of questions. Firstly, has full planning permission been obtained for the new complex and if not, what obstacles stand in the way? Secondly relating to the wife beater, if previous convictions don't get raised in court, what happens if one of the jurers mentions it whilst they are deliberating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said: The key difference for me, is that the developer is insisting that the Gas sell the Memorial site to them, as a prerequisite for allowing them to rent someone else's stadium. It's like a landlord (developer) coming to you, and saying you have to sell your house to me, to be able to come and rent my much larger house. The landlord won't offer you anywhere near what your house is worth either, if you stayed, knocked your house down; and redeveloped it yourself. I can only think the Gas have run out of ideas for a new location; and the Developer has seen an opportunity in their vulnerable position to get prime real estate in Horfield for a cheap price; and then get the Gas into the equivalent HMO at the fruit market. It's all pie in the sky anyhow, as I can't see either sites getting planning permission for a number of years (if at all). If this went ahead (which it won't), they could be the first "beneficiaries" of the Klaus Schwab/Bildenberg "Great Reset". "You will own nothing and be happy" Suckers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: A couple of questions. Firstly, has full planning permission been obtained for the new complex and if not, what obstacles stand in the way? Well, I'm off down there now with my dog and to have a picnic with the family. Might even have a game of French Cricket. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, CodeRed said: Exactly, the UWE all over again. Wally pulled out because they wouldn't own any or part of the UWE stadium, only rent it, and UWE were taking a hefty % of associated income ( car parking,food,bars,etc) This is exactly the same deal - the developer takes their ground. The developer is building a huge infrastructure of retail and hospitality on the fruit market site - do the sags seriously think the developer (their landlord) is going to hand them a slice of that revenue? And they lap it up ...again A minor point in the scheme of things, but I believe Rovers would have built and owned the new UWE stadium itself, but would have leased the surrounding ground (at a peppercorn rent) and, as you say, forfeited a large part of the associated income, including car parking fees - I seem to recall that part of UWE's interest was that Rovers would actually construct the car parking area as part of the deal (without receiving any income therefrom). 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Not surprised by the stadium news, there is someone behind the scenes (not The Mayor) who is hellbent on helping them out. After all, who had a “stand” sponsored by Bristol Energy? Clue, it wasn’t us.. Isn't that the Deputy Mayor, a declared Rovers fan? 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: As for the Fewers getting all excites about being able to drink pre match in the stadium to put cash back in to the club... wait until Wally notices that the lack of nearby pubs mean he can charge 7 quid a pint. By the time any stadium gets built, alwaus assuming planning permission is granted, I suspect that £7 a pint will be considered a bargain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 There are some pikeys complaining about this because they don’t think 20,000 is big enough…. Sorry what? When was the last time they even averaged 10K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lew-T said: There are some pikeys complaining about this because they don’t think 20,000 is big enough…. Sorry what? When was the last time they even averaged 10K? 1976........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, weepywall said: No way will they get permission for a new stadium in an inner city area these days. With this Council, and the Mayors seeming love of 5* hotels and "partner funded" trips. Never say never. Edited December 1, 2021 by 1960maaan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, cheese said: Well, I'm off down there now with my dog and to have a picnic with the family. Might even have a game of French Cricket. I think they play boob cricket, not french cricket and you must be brave to take a dog anywhere associated with the fewers. I assume but your picnic will include stale crisps and out of date Fanta. Edited December 1, 2021 by wendyredredrobin 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 Im not sure I read that they would 'sell' the mem to the developer, more they would just hand it over to get use of the new stadium then the developer builds on the mem site, which has a covenant on it, at vast profit? They give away something they own to rent somewhere else at the beck and call of said developer. Sounds like an awful deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pommers65 Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, RedEd73 said: 1976........... That's still 8,000 short 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: I think they play boob cricket, not french cricket and you must be brave to take a dog anywhere associated with the fewers. I assume but your picnic will include stale crisps and out of date Fanta. Aint the dogs home next door too? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 How fascinating it would be if someone in Bristol with some time on their hands submitted a FOI request for details of all formal and non-formal meetings and correspondence involving the deputy mayor, mayor and officials from Rovers, from say, 2016 onward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Im not sure I read that they would 'sell' the mem to the developer, more they would just hand it over to get use of the new stadium then the developer builds on the mem site, which has a covenant on it, at vast profit? They give away something they own to rent somewhere else at the beck and call of said developer. Sounds like an awful deal to me. It does say that; though at present it is only a in principle agreement. From the Post article: The deal does include the sale of the land at the Mem to the same developer which intends to revamp the fruit market, with the plans for that site off Gloucester Road to be turned into a residential development 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 On 30/11/2021 at 08:51, Galley is our king said: Surely though if found guilty, whether he goes to prison or not, the FA would charge him with something? Bringing the game into disrepute? Can the FA charge him with being a horrible little knob? They certainly ought to remove it, if he is found guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, RedEd73 said: 1976........... 10k average only just reached due to one massive home attendance (guess the opposition) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 16 hours ago, Malago said: I learnt it from my time in Scotland. Still very much in common use. Trying to think what the Bristolian equivalent would be. Disappear as quickly as a rat up a drain pipe, perhaps. Disappear like a g*shead on the Tote End when City turn up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, myol'man said: 10k average only just reached due to one massive home attendance (guess the opposition) Those pesky T'eds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 5 hours ago, GrahamC said: Not surprised by the stadium news, there is someone behind the scenes (not The Mayor) who is hellbent on helping them out. After all, who had a “stand” sponsored by Bristol Energy? Clue, it wasn’t us.. Mr S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, weepywall said: No way will they get permission for a new stadium in an inner city area these days. Q Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, TomF said: Anyway anyone heard how the trial has gone today? No updates in Bristol Live, but, according to GasChat, the case was adjourned this morning and, in any event, the local reporter covering the case was taken ill so they are receiving no news. If the case was being heard today, there are Law Society sites that will provide details, but I have forgotten their address! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, TomF said: Anyway anyone heard how the trial has gone today? Scriptwriter from the beeb is in attendance to gather ideas for the second series of Showtrial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, 1960maaan said: With this Council, and the Mayors seeming love of 5* hotels and "partner funded" trips. Never say never. I have it on good authority that they are looking to redevelop Chasers in Kingswood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, TomF said: Anyway anyone heard how the trial has gone today? Joey nutted the Judge while using a French / Bristolian accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Coombsy said: Q Marvin I know what you are saying but surely with clean air zones etc, a new 20k stadium in a central area of Bristol would be defeating the whole object of cutting down on traffic in Bristol, not that it would ever get 20k in it tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 If they were aiming for something like Shrewsbury's New Meadow, then possibly but never something 20k. Bias aside, i don't see a football stadium there making much sense at all. Years of stuff to go through yet, I'll believe it when i see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 Says adjourned until 10:30 here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 1, 2021 Report Share Posted December 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Southport Red said: Says adjourned until 10:30 here? That’s what I mentioned earlier, but I have been unable to establish whether the adjournment was for later today or for tomorrow. Has there been a major development, being discussed confidentially behind closed doors or just a breakdown in communication from the Court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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