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22 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

I think everyone deserves a chance to turn their life around after ******* up. 

Barton has continually and repeatedly been involved in crime after crime after alleged crime. 

I don't think the 2 people are really a level comparison. 

I agree that people should have a second chance , but the negative publicity received with the Simpson signing shows domestic abuse is rightly condemned (whether first, second or multiple occasions). In Barton’s defence he hasn’t been convicted of this, which Simpson has.

I do agree with your statement of how many chances do you give Barton, he’s clearly got anger management issues, regardless of the outcome of this court case. He was a ticking time bomb when appointed and I can’t recall any previous manager of a football club having two trials in quick succession for assault.  

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19 hours ago, Banned User said:

I guees like alot of people maybe I jumped the gun-The questions I guess answer themselves as the players came. The Sun is a rag paper and not worth even reading.

I want JB to succeed 

I read his book "No Nonsense" and get why he had anger control problems.

What will happen if we have a bad start te crowd will turn so thats why i am not sure he should stay-I hope he dose and we get behind him

In a so called male dominated sport-

Premiership Players who played for England in the Euros had sex parties during lockdown-so is this abusing women

Wayne Rooney visited prostitutes-So is this abusing women

What happened between JB and his wife as she said private but someone for whatever reason felt it needed exposure.

With the up and coming Court Case re Stendell it seems very convenient 

It wuz those gurt tedz wurkin for da press dat leeked it. 

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3 minutes ago, BrightCiderLife said:

 

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So he stays in his job for now, albeit see what happens at the next court appearance, I assume that’s before December?  His job as manager for me is completely untenable, guilty or not guilty, as soon as they hit a bad patch the pressure will tell, he will kick off and the wheels fall off.  I predict a brawl at training or after a game with JB in the middle of it.  An absolute car crash of an appointment on all levels

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Imagine going to the Mem to play them (as an opposition manager, coach, physio), you would just have to wind him up for 90 minutes non stop, even get the whole bench involved. Only a matter of time before he loses it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he clocks another player, manager etc etc this season as there will be some touchline bust ups and plenty will bring up this charge to his face.

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Just now, Dogbert said:

So a summary is up on the Evening Standard site.

Apparently his defence is that his wife had been drinking heavily and was exaggerating when she called the police asking for him to be removed from the house after kicking her in the head.

Just about to post this.

Shocking incident. Obviously his wife is now trying to protect him but given she called the Police in the first place it’s hardly surprising that this has fortunately got to the point where he has to answer for this.

Disgusting thing to do irrespective of who he is or who he works for.

Some Gasheads have already suggested that this has just been made up by the Police to ‘get’ Barton, as if they sit there all day trying to plot some tinpot football clubs manager...

 

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7 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Show me you’re guilty without saying you’re guilty 

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His Mrs sounds like a delightful character aswell then..! 

Match made in heaven, and perfectly suited to his current workplace. 

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I don't pretend to know all the in's and out's with Bartons long list of Court appearances, probably more than Andy Murray recently. But from the bit's I've read, Stendel had facial injuries after a run in with Barton, who denied involvement . His wife had head injuries after a disagreement with Barton, who denies involvement . Could we all be wrong and Joey is just really, really, really unlucky and misunderstood ?

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3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Surely needs to be suspended by rovers. 

When clubs are struggling for money, even clubs with very rich owners with posh watches, I can understand why they don't suspend him. They would still have to pay him and it would mess up their relegation preparations . TBF he is still innocent as both cases are still pending. 

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3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I don't pretend to know all the in's and out's with Bartons long list of Court appearances, probably more than Andy Murray recently. But from the bit's I've read, Stendel had facial injuries after a run in with Barton, who denied involvement . His wife had head injuries after a disagreement with Barton, who denies involvement . Could we all be wrong and Joey is just really, really, really unlucky and misunderstood ?

Or he is just a complete ***. 

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8 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Show me you’re guilty without saying you’re guilty 

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The "greatly exaggerated" bit does make it appear like he is saying the incident happened but not as bad as it sounds. The CPS definition of assault by beating says

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Provided there has been an intentional or reckless application of unlawful force the offence will have been committed, however slight the force.

 

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From Ass-shat :

 

Former Premier League footballer Joey Barton is accused of grabbing his wife by the throat and kicking her in the head in a drunken row at a party, a court heard on Monday.

The 38-year-old, who is now managing League Two side Bristol Rovers, is accused of assaulting Georgia Barton outside a property in Kew, south-west London, on June 2.

Prosecutor Nahiedh Khan said Barton and his wife had travelled to London for a short break, and went to the home of friends for a small gathering.

“All parties were talking about a family-related matter when Mr Barton became quite angry about the topic of conversation”, she said.

“He grabbed the throat of Mrs Barton, and this caused her to move backwards, falling to the floor.

“Once on the floor, he is then said to have kicked her in the head, resulting in a half golf ball sized bruise on the right side of her temple.

“She can’t remember what happened directly, but afterwards she got up and realised her nose was bleeding.”

The court heard Mrs Barton called the police and asked for her “intoxicated” husband to be removed from the property.

Appearing via videolink at Wimbledon magistrates court, Barton, wearing shorts and T-shirt, pleaded not guilty to assault by beating.

The court was told he denies being violent towards his wife, suggesting she had been “drinking heavily” and had “greatly exaggerated” the incident.

Neither Mrs Barton nor the two friends are expected to be witnesses in the case.

Announcing the charge, Scotland Yard said: “Joseph Barton, of Widnes, is due to appear on bail on Monday 26 July at Wimbledon magistrates court charged with assault by beating.

“The charge relates to an incident which took place at a residential property in Kew on Wednesday 2 June in which a woman received a head injury. London Ambulance Service did not attend.”

Barton was on police bail after his initial arrest on the day of the alleged attack, but news of the case did not emerge until this weekend.

The former midfielder made one appearance for England and played for Manchester City and Newcastle during his playing career. He became Fleetwood Town manager in 2018, and switched to Bristol Rovers in February this year.

Richard Derby, defending, said: “The issues in this case are, categorically, this incident did not happen. There was no assault.”

Barton, from Widnes, denies assault by beating. He was released on unconditional bail until his trial at Wimbledon magistrates court on December 16.

A further case management hearing has been set for November 17.

 

 

I know the hearing was by videolink; but doesn't it say something about how serious Barton is taking this by wearing shorts and tee shirt ? You would expect at least a collar and tie, and certainly not shorts ? 

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1 minute ago, 1960maaan said:

When clubs are struggling for money, even clubs with very rich owners with posh watches, I can understand why they don't suspend him. They would still have to pay him and it would mess up their relegation preparations . TBF he is still innocent as both cases are still pending. 

But still an allegation of kicking his wife in the head. It really is a terrible accusation and to be associated with that is very damaging 

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If you've got a significant amount of time to spare, here is a link to a summary of Barton's previous misdemeanours. 

From numerous training ground bust ups, to an incredible number of Red cards for violet conduct, to stubbing a cigar out in a youth team players eye, to attacking members of the public, numerous arrests, charges and sentences passed on him, to inflammatory remarks and public spats with fellow professionals.... 

How any football club could even consider appointing him as manager of their club is beyond belief..! 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114297/Joey-Bartons-incredible-rap-sheet-sacking-Fleetwood-Town.html

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Just now, Bar BS3 said:

If you've got a significant amount of time to spare, here is a link to a summary of Barton's previous misdemeanours. 

From numerous training ground bust ups, to an incredible number of Red cards for violet conduct, to stubbing a cigar out in a youth team players eye, to attacking members of the public, numerous arrests, charges and sentences passed on him, to inflammatory remarks and public spats with fellow professionals.... 

How any football club could even consider appointing him as manager of their club is beyond belief..! 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9114297/Joey-Bartons-incredible-rap-sheet-sacking-Fleetwood-Town.html

It is astonishing. I read a thread were rovers fans were destroying him whilst he was Fleetwood manager. Every expletive if you could think of. Then he becomes there manager and he is seen as a god. Not by all I may add . The bloke needs serious help to control his anger. Has no place managing in football

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