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I see over on their forum there is another thread where someone is surprised at the amount of young kids wearing city shirts in kingswood.I’ve lived in the wood all my life and as a kid in the 70s more of the kids in my street supported city than the gas.I guess if your family had no ties to either club back then,you were probably more likely to end up supporting city as we were in the top flight back then.That was more or less my own situation, though my old man had been to a few gas games as a casual watcher.luckily he saw the error of his ways! By the time I was in secondary school I’d say it was probably 50/50 city/rovers in my year so my question is how far do you have to go back to when kingswood really was a staunch gas area?

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11 minutes ago, mattjb said:

I see over on their forum there is another thread where someone is surprised at the amount of young kids wearing city shirts in kingswood.I’ve lived in the wood all my life and as a kid in the 70s more of the kids in my street supported city than the gas.I guess if your family had no ties to either club back then,you were probably more likely to end up supporting city as we were in the top flight back then.That was more or less my own situation, though my old man had been to a few gas games as a casual watcher.luckily he saw the error of his ways! By the time I was in secondary school I’d say it was probably 50/50 city/rovers in my year so my question is how far do you have to go back to when kingswood really was a staunch gas area?

1939-45 - gas masks everywhere apparently. 

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9 minutes ago, mattjb said:

I see over on their forum there is another thread where someone is surprised at the amount of young kids wearing city shirts in kingswood.I’ve lived in the wood all my life and as a kid in the 70s more of the kids in my street supported city than the gas.I guess if your family had no ties to either club back then,you were probably more likely to end up supporting city as we were in the top flight back then.That was more or less my own situation, though my old man had been to a few gas games as a casual watcher.luckily he saw the error of his ways! By the time I was in secondary school I’d say it was probably 50/50 city/rovers in my year so my question is how far do you have to go back to when kingswood really was a staunch gas area?

From Kingswood here too, it has never really been a rovers area, they seem to think it was, or even still is, because the saggie fans I know generally just drink and hang about with other saggie fans. They do not know how to converse with anyone else so they just think the majority are Sags. 

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9 hours ago, bearded_red said:

This part below appealed to me  - This is a truly mental analogy....

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I’ve doubted myself a little bit because I’m a young coach and I’ve been pulled down by the fact the club has been in a negative cycle with 15 wins in 70 games.

It’s not a great period for the club and we’ve got to change that round and make sure in the next 70 games we’ve got more than 15 wins on the board, because if we haven’t we won’t be a league club. We’ll be out of the Football League.

If we get 25 wins, that’s progress, that’s getting better. If you went to the gym and lifted 15kg one day and the next day you lifted 20kg and the next day you lifted 25kg, you’re getting better.

So he starts of equating wins out of 70 games to weight lifting..

He's right about the series  15 > 20 > 25 as defining improvement (in either the weight lifting analogy or rovers pitiful win record) - then he adds this gem.....

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It might not be 100kg because it takes a period of time to get to that, but at this moment in time we’ve just got to be better than what’s gone before.

so using the analogy of 1 win per kg he's aimng for 100 wins - but out of the next 70 games?

I'd certainly agree that takes a "period of time" . 

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4 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

:noexp:

“Everybody wants to play for us”

”they look at our pitch and look at our fans”

”we get the best version of everyone”

He’s 100% trying to curry favour with the fan base/get copy out there shifting the blame so that when inevitably given the boot, he can claim to future employers it wasn’t his fault and he was in an impossible situation.

His ‘blame everyone but himself’ style is gross; whether it was at the sags or anywhere else, I’d say the same.

Possibly for the first time, I pity their fans; lunatic in charge of the asylum.

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I'm no fan of Barton - but he is clearly unwell.

He is obviously affected by either medication (prescribed) or self administered.

He is a sociopath - who now admits to a 'divine purpose' to 'save' Rovers

 

Look at the video - unable to keep eye contact, looking left, up ,around, as if he is actually seeing and responding to something.

In places he was unable to remember what he was saying or complete the sentence.

 

He is severely mentally unwell - I would hope Rovers club Dr has seen this and is making arrangements for him to be assessed by a mental health professional.

 

The man genuinely needs help.

 

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Sadly it seems one of their players died this week and an autopsy was peformed. I'm not sure why they had to burn his heart afterwards? Could explain some of the recent poor performances though.

 

"Barton will also have centre-half Connor Taylor available for the visit of Carlisle after he was cleared by the medical staff this week.

“We took him off (against Swindon) because we thought it was concussion,” Barton explained. “He went down and had a dizzy spell.

"In the autopsy after that, it wasn’t a concussion, nobody touched him or got near him.

“He had like a panic attack. His heart rate and breathing had become irregular. He’s had it in his career before.

“Forgive me because I’m a football coach and not a surgeon, but it’s something to do with something in his heart that needs burning.

 

Seriously though that press conference is batsh*t crazy, I have some medical experience, albeit not in psychiatry but I think he needs some sort of psychiatric help. 

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3 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

They are truly in despair over on slagchat. One of them is utterly embarrassed that we are quoting from JB`s press conference as even he can see how deluded he sounds.

Probably grates them more that many on here almost sympathise that JB has totally lost it. I’m in the ‘he needs help’ category 

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9 minutes ago, TomF said:

Probably grates them more that many on here almost sympathise that JB has totally lost it. I’m in the ‘he needs help’ category 

He’s getting more like Brent every day, Jesus went to Nazareth, Bristol’s a big place but once i’ve finished here there’s  Bath, Dursley,  Yatton. You know... Weston, Thornbury. Because i’m my own boss...... Burnham

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Sat on an upgrade 'babysitting'  job on a  Saturday with nothing better to do I ended up glancing at Gaschat, and the thread they have there about is their owner worth more than any Premier League owners.

It struck me that it is very difficult to actually put a price on Wael's worth. With Steve Lansdown it is pretty consistent and clear wherever you look, but Wael seems to vary widely according to if the page you look at is influenced by the gas or Post in any way.

These are the only two 'independent' sites I could find that put a price on him, though neither looks particularly reliable (the second one moreso than the first)...

https://popularbio.com/wael-al-qadi/

https://goalballlive.com/richest-premier-league-owners/

These list him at £1million and £30million respectively, lower by degrees than what is claimed by the Post.

Wikipedia puts him at £500million but then, when you check the citation next to it they get that from the Bristol Post :laugh:.

Does anybody actually have any clue?

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And they wonder why we're all interested in the goings on over there? Because It's gold, but it's almost at the point where it's not funny.. Almost I say...

JB seems a bit bi- polar to me he also has very poor impulse management ( short fuse as it was called). He's on a high right now, or was at that presser, hence the stream of consciousness ... Hard to look at isn't it? But funny as ****.

 

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2 hours ago, harrys said:

He’s getting more like Brent every day, Jesus went to Nazareth, Bristol’s a big place but once i’ve finished here there’s  Bath, Dursley,  Yatton. You know... Weston, Thornbury. Because i’m my own boss...... Burnham

Oi Harry, what have we done in the Yatton area to deserve such a "coming". Oh, on second thoughts don't answer that.

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1 hour ago, richwwtk said:

Sat on an upgrade 'babysitting'  job on a  Saturday with nothing better to do I ended up glancing at Gaschat, and the thread they have there about is their owner worth more than any Premier League owners.

It struck me that it is very difficult to actually put a price on Wael's worth. With Steve Lansdown it is pretty consistent and clear wherever you look, but Wael seems to vary widely according to if the page you look at is influenced by the gas or Post in any way.

These are the only two 'independent' sites I could find that put a price on him, though neither looks particularly reliable (the second one moreso than the first)...

https://popularbio.com/wael-al-qadi/

https://goalballlive.com/richest-premier-league-owners/

These list him at £1million and £30million respectively, lower by degrees than what is claimed by the Post.

Wikipedia puts him at £500million but then, when you check the citation next to it they get that from the Bristol Post :laugh:.

Does anybody actually have any clue?

Pretty sure the wealth they got all super excited about at the start “Premiership in 5 years, unlucky the shit” was the total combined family wealth & everyone else from Jordan has now walked away from Rovers.

Think there was also an older brother involved initially & he was taking flak from the few for not allowing Wael to spend more?

I would say he’s probably worth circa £50m, which seems a lot for the level they now play at, though in comparison Dale Vince of the vegans just up the road is worth double that.

Their problems stem from the fact that they have a dilapidated ground & if stories are true, very high wages in comparison to the level they play.

When you add in that they have been on a downward trajectory for years, are getting smaller & smaller gates (today’s will be horrendous) & Barton now appears toxic to a fair percentage even of their idiotic fan base, the outlook looks grim.

******* brilliant, isn’t it?

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7 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Pretty sure the wealth they got all super excited about at the start “Premiership in 5 years, unlucky the shit” was the total combined family wealth & everyone else from Jordan has now walked away from Rovers.

Think there was also an older brother involved initially & he was taking flak from the few for not allowing Wael to spend more?

I would say he’s probably worth circa £50m, which seems a lot for the level they now play at, though in comparison Dale Vince of the vegans just up the road is worth double that.

Their problems stem from the fact that they have a dilapidated ground & if stories are true, very high wages in comparison to the level they play.

When you add in that they have been on a downward trajectory for years, are getting smaller & smaller gates (today’s will be horrendous) & Barton now appears toxic to a fair percentage even of their idiotic fan base, the outlook looks grim.

******* brilliant, isn’t it?

The sooner they go the better. I'm not interested in any so-called rivalry, that's well in the past now. One team in Bristol - the sooner that's literally the case, the better. 

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4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Pretty sure the wealth they got all super excited about at the start “Premiership in 5 years, unlucky the shit” was the total combined family wealth & everyone else from Jordan has now walked away from Rovers.

Think there was also an older brother involved initially & he was taking flak from the few for not allowing Wael to spend more?

I would say he’s probably worth circa £50m, which seems a lot for the level they now play at, though in comparison Dale Vince of the vegans just up the road is worth double that.

Their problems stem from the fact that they have a dilapidated ground & if stories are true, very high wages in comparison to the level they play.

When you add in that they have been on a downward trajectory for years, are getting smaller & smaller gates (today’s will be horrendous) & Barton now appears toxic to a fair percentage even of their idiotic fan base, the outlook looks grim.

******* brilliant, isn’t it?

Their wage bill must be horrendous,  I don't see how it can be otherwise with the recent signings. Jailbird can claim he is treating them as a "pro bono" case as much as he likes, but the fact is all the cronies he has signed will have been rubbing their hands at the prospect of topping up their pension pots.

JB spouting off about what a great owner he is just serves to massage the ego of what appears to be a highly naive individual, who has been identified as a cash cow by players and agents alike.

I'll bet he has to be protected from telephone scam calls as well. 

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1 hour ago, BanburyRed said:

And we thought we were shit at home!  They've even managed to be worse than we are! God love 'em!

Always trying to one up us aren't they!?

Well in this instance - good luck to 'em, they can have that award! Wael done saggies:dance:

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Looking at the state the gas are in now, I am very thankful to my dad (born and raised in the northville area) when a kid in the 60’s and 70s decided not to trek down muller rd to eastville and instead when he went with my grandad to visit his aunt in Southville (carrying on the ville theme 😂) he would go down to the gate on his own instead. I owe my dad a lot for his sensible decision making.

living in Yate I know a few gas heads who were not so fortunate (although they all seem to have a second club, can’t imagine why).

here’s to all the people that made the sensible decision of going to the Gate instead of Eastville, twerton and the cabbage patch 🍻

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2 hours ago, richwwtk said:

Sat on an upgrade 'babysitting'  job on a  Saturday with nothing better to do I ended up glancing at Gaschat, and the thread they have there about is their owner worth more than any Premier League owners.

It struck me that it is very difficult to actually put a price on Wael's worth. With Steve Lansdown it is pretty consistent and clear wherever you look, but Wael seems to vary widely according to if the page you look at is influenced by the gas or Post in any way.

These are the only two 'independent' sites I could find that put a price on him, though neither looks particularly reliable (the second one moreso than the first)...

https://popularbio.com/wael-al-qadi/

https://goalballlive.com/richest-premier-league-owners/

These list him at £1million and £30million respectively, lower by degrees than what is claimed by the Post.

Wikipedia puts him at £500million but then, when you check the citation next to it they get that from the Bristol Post :laugh:.

Does anybody actually have any clue?

I think it was estimated that his personal wealth was circa 60mil when he took over, but that was neither here or there as he was part of a family investment.

Since he has gone solo, his father has died so estimating his wealth would be a complete guess as without knowing how much his father left it could be a fiver, it could be a billion.

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