Victory Park Reds Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 But can you imagine in this weather sitting and relaxing under a bit of mouldy canvas sipping out of date Fanta. Ftg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) On 05/07/2022 at 20:37, 22A said: Compare & contrast the Mem with the division below. If the squalid tent encampment is shamed by L2 grounds, how the heck does it stack up against the comparative palatial surroundings in L1? Edited July 7, 2022 by cider hoss rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, cider hoss rules said: If the squalid tent encampment is shamed by L2 grounds, how the heck does it stack up against the comparative palatial surroundings in L1? Stadium of Light replaced by Stadium of Blight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 A whisper that tomorrow is the day Conygar Investment Company PLC will announce their purchase of land owned by Wholesale Fruit Centre (Bristol) Ltd together with the site development plan to include a 28000 capacity football stadium. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, bert tann said: A whisper that tomorrow is the day Conygar Investment Company PLC will announce their purchase of land owned by Wholesale Fruit Centre (Bristol) Ltd together with the site development plan to include a 28000 capacity football stadium. Don’t be silly BT. 28000 isn’t big enough for them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Don’t be silly BT. 28000 isn’t big enough for them It'll be ok, they are going to have a 50000 capacity locked out over spill area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Ah i remember when they were chanting "We've got our stadium" in our last meeting. Coming up to 9 years now....its getting old...very old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, bert tann said: A whisper that tomorrow is the day Conygar Investment Company PLC will announce their purchase of land owned by Wholesale Fruit Centre (Bristol) Ltd together with the site development plan to include a 28000 capacity football stadium. Their exclusivity deal finished on the 5th July so they have to put out some sort of statement one way or another. A few Gasheads I hear are worried that it might be inside the new CAZ area, I was surprised that a) they had cars, and b) they thought the deal was likely enough to worry about that aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 28000 capacity, now remind me when did they have a crowd of that size ? I would hazard a guess of over 50-60 years a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Leveller said: Stadium of Light replaced by Stadium of Blight. You spelt shite wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, weepywall said: 28000 capacity, now remind me when did they have a crowd of that size ? I would hazard a guess of over 50-60 years a go. I'll give you 1 guess as to why 28k is being mentioned by the fewers. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I just find it highly unlikely that any sane property developer is thinking "sure lets invest millions of pounds (at the start of a predicted recession) to build a 28K stadium for this tinpot club that has not had a 20K+ average attendance in 63 years" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, cityal said: I just find it highly unlikely that any sane property developer is thinking "sure lets invest millions of pounds (at the start of a predicted recession) to build a 28K stadium for this tinpot club that has not had a 20K+ average attendance in 63 years" Unless there is a water tight contract in place that protects them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, cityal said: I just find it highly unlikely that any sane property developer is thinking "sure lets invest millions of pounds (at the start of a predicted recession) to build a 28K stadium for this tinpot club that has not had a 20K+ average attendance in 63 years" As we know it’s not just about the football, modern stadiums can be utilised all week every week depending on the facilities and bring in regular cash for the owners. What Bert is saying is not that far fetched and I suspect he knows more than he’s letting on. Given their low crowds for a club in a City the size of Bristol it’ll be interesting to see what happens after the initial novelty factor wears off and they start losing a few games. 5/6k in a 28k stadium would be an amusing sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: As we know it’s not just about the football, modern stadiums can be utilised all week every week depending on the facilities and bring in regular cash for the owners. What Bert is saying is not that far fetched and I suspect he knows more than he’s letting on. Given their low crowds for a club in a City the size of Bristol it’ll be interesting to see what happens after the initial novelty factor wears off and they start losing a few games. 5/6k in a 28k stadium would be an amusing sight. yep the Gashead I spoke to today thinks it will be ready in 2 years time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityal Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: As we know it’s not just about the football, modern stadiums can be utilised all week every week depending on the facilities and bring in regular cash for the owners. What Bert is saying is not that far fetched and I suspect he knows more than he’s letting on. Given their low crowds for a club in a City the size of Bristol it’ll be interesting to see what happens after the initial novelty factor wears off and they start losing a few games. 5/6k in a 28k stadium would be an amusing sight. Good point about utilisation peter. Surely in that circumstance Bristol Rovers would not be the owner (the developer would) so therefore no additional revenue? 5/6K in a 28k stadium sounds a bit like MK dons - maybe a ground share or merger with them is best for all concerned? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Jim Davey said: yep the Gashead I spoke to today thinks it will be ready in 2 years time . I don’t know enough about these things to know whether that’s ridiculously optimistic or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Bert Tan once again has people on strings with a throwaway comment. Take this how you will, but it was going to be low spec and smallish before covid. Costs have risen exponentially since then, and although I haven’t had any further detail in 12 months or so, chances that the spec has got any better are low, if it’s still even remotely realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, Jim Davey said: yep the Gashead I spoke to today thinks it will be ready in 2 years time . 2 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Their exclusivity deal finished on the 5th July so they have to put out some sort of statement one way or another. A few Gasheads I hear are worried that it might be inside the new CAZ area, I was surprised that a) they had cars, and b) they thought the deal was likely enough to worry about that aspect. I don't know (or care) anything about Conygar Investment Company PLC. But looking at Brentford as an example, near 3 years to build and cost £70million. Now a) That puts doubts over the 2 year time period, even before planning & permissions and the rest. B) £70 M for 17,500 must put doubts over the viability . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Bert Tan once again has people on strings with a throwaway comment. Take this how you will, but it was going to be low spec and smallish before covid. Costs have risen exponentially since then, and although I haven’t had any further detail in 12 months or so, chances that the spec has got any better are low, if it’s still even remotely realistic. IF it happens at all, I would be amazed if it's anywhere near 20,000 let alone 28,000. My guess would be a cheapie a la Colchester / Chesterfield but possibly a bit bigger, maybe 14,000. That's more than enough for them and they should be ecstatic with that as it's costing them fark all, apart from the mem site. Edited July 7, 2022 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Jim Davey said: yep the Gashead I spoke to today thinks it will be ready in 2 years time . Didn't they say that 2/3 years ago though? So planning has been done, agreed, submitted, approved, and contractors are ready to start then? Silly assclowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 St Philips Marsh is not called a Marsh for nothing. The old pre war slums in Albert Road and the environs literally sank into the Marsh. Only a fool, or a very rich man with more money than sense, would contemplate building a stadium there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 lets talk some figures regarding recent stadium construction. The Brentford Community Stadium - 3 1/2 years to build. 17250 capacity. Total Cost 71 Million pounds. Plough Lane - 18 months to build. 9215 capacity. Total Cost 34 Million pounds. How much do we honestly think it would cost developers to build the sags a 28000 capacity stadium on the fruit market site? How much would they be able to pay back in rent and how long would it take developers to get their money back? Just look at the issues that Coventry have had with their ground contracts. In the current financial climate it makes absolutely no sense for anyone involved. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Williams Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: lets talk some figures regarding recent stadium construction. The Brentford Community Stadium - 3 1/2 years to build. 17250 capacity. Total Cost 71 Million pounds. Plough Lane - 18 months to build. 9215 capacity. Total Cost 34 Million pounds. How much do we honestly think it would cost developers to build the sags a 28000 capacity stadium on the fruit market site? How much would they be able to pay back in rent and how long would it take developers to get their money back? Just look at the issues that Coventry have had with their ground contracts. In the current financial climate it makes absolutely no sense for anyone involved. Or if it happens luvvly jubbly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Barrs Court Red said: Bert Tan once again has people on strings with a throwaway comment. Send him to Vietnam 1 hour ago, Malago said: St Philips Marsh is not called a Marsh for nothing. The old pre war slums in Albert Road and the environs literally sank into the Marsh. Only a fool, or a very rich man with more money than sense, would contemplate building a stadium there. It stinks around there, recycling plant, waste disposal company, asbestos disposal unit, dogs home, railway sidings, high tide in the river on a hot day no pubs or shops nearby . Absolute pit of a venue for a new stadium . It'll never happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Midlands Robin said: lets talk some figures regarding recent stadium construction. The Brentford Community Stadium - 3 1/2 years to build. 17250 capacity. Total Cost 71 Million pounds. Plough Lane - 18 months to build. 9215 capacity. Total Cost 34 Million pounds. How much do we honestly think it would cost developers to build the sags a 28000 capacity stadium on the fruit market site? How much would they be able to pay back in rent and how long would it take developers to get their money back? Just look at the issues that Coventry have had with their ground contracts. In the current financial climate it makes absolutely no sense for anyone involved. Absolutely no sense? Then that must be gaslogic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, myol'man said: Send him to Vietnam It stinks around there, recycling plant, waste disposal company, asbestos disposal unit, dogs home, railway sidings, high tide in the river on a hot day no pubs or shops nearby . Absolute pit of a venue for a new stadium . It'll never happen No, given all those site attributes… I hope it happens. Just need to add a big dog track within the stadium and a massive, smelly gasometer dominating the skyline outside and it all sounds ideal to me. Fitting for their new place to replicate Eastville as a celebration of fifty years with no progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, myol'man said: Send him to Vietnam It stinks around there, recycling plant, waste disposal company, asbestos disposal unit, dogs home, railway sidings, high tide in the river on a hot day no pubs or shops nearby . Absolute pit of a venue for a new stadium . It'll never happen Sounds perfect for 6,000 smelly tramps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Midlands Robin said: lets talk some figures regarding recent stadium construction. The Brentford Community Stadium - 3 1/2 years to build. 17250 capacity. Total Cost 71 Million pounds. Plough Lane - 18 months to build. 9215 capacity. Total Cost 34 Million pounds. How much do we honestly think it would cost developers to build the sags a 28000 capacity stadium on the fruit market site? How much would they be able to pay back in rent and how long would it take developers to get their money back? Just look at the issues that Coventry have had with their ground contracts. In the current financial climate it makes absolutely no sense for anyone involved. How much of those costs were for the land? Development space in those areas are going to cost a premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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