NcnsBcfc Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Depends on what formation we are looking to play. I agree that neither Wells of Marton look effective in a 4231, as a figurehead. In that formation you need a quick powerful runner. Martin is a link up man, whilst Wells is a poacher; who offers little off the ball. Jannah, Bell & Conway are probably little lighweight/raw at the moment. In a 442 though. It the Wells/Martin combo might work though. They certainly started well together last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, BOSRed said: If anything, that will be our weak spot this season, that and not scoring many goals If you think that scoring goals is going to be a problem this season, then I hope our defence is going to be miserly, or we are gonna be in some real trouble! COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, extonsred said: When is Semenyo expected back in the squad? According to G McG, Semenyo is not likely to be match fit until sometime in September. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I’ve said exactly that a few weeks ago and got laughed at………… It's the way you tell um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Kalas to be sold to fund a new striker ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, extonsred said: When is Semenyo expected back in the squad? Semenyo is no way the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, REDOXO said: I wouldn’t laugh at that. Semenyo just needs to learn how to keep his head in front of goal. If he can add that we have the Jamie Vardy type Pearson wants. Despite some of the idiot comments on another thread I am very upbeat about the season. Is that something is you can learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, lukebcfc1989 said: All very familiar to the Holden and Johnson eras I’m afraid…same old problem!!! Quality Winger Quality Striker Still needed Lets be honest that Villa team -Grealish is relegation fodder and we didn’t threaten them… Get your wallet out Lansdown if you won’t invest in the team I won’t be investing in a season ticket! Thanks for the sample And even a relegation fodder PL team is likely to be top 4/5 in the champ in Covid Financial Times, so let’s give some credit for a decent enough 20-45 mins first half and a much better second half, where we were denied to pens, slid a couple of balls across the 6 yard box, had several shots that on another day either seriously test the keeper or end up in the net. So we did threaten them….sometimes the “0” in the goals for colum needs some context to be given. For info, SL has invested millions into this club, there are FFP considerations why he can’t go mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: Agree with everything you put there except the last bit. I thought they linked up very poorly last season. I'd be tempted to give Semenyo a go, as I think he could be an absolute nightmare for centre backs. But I didnt think Martin was bad today. We know he will link play well, and it just means we have to find ways to score accepting he probably won't get many. Wouldn't surprise me if Nige brings in a new striker like Keinan Davis. In our start to last season, before Martin was flogged, him and Nahki linked pretty well….Wells scoring, Martin assisting, but also as a four with Weimann and Paterson, they would a good “box”. But if you play Martin every game he loses effectiveness, and by Huddersfield, Holden had gone 433 with Wells shunted to LW….then Fam came in. I could go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: Agree with everything you put there except the last bit. I thought they linked up very poorly last season. I'd be tempted to give Semenyo a go, as I think he could be an absolute nightmare for centre backs. But I didnt think Martin was bad today. We know he will link play well, and it just means we have to find ways to score accepting he probably won't get many. Wouldn't surprise me if Nige brings in a new striker like Keinan Davis. You're probably right @JonDolman The start of last season under DH seems like a decade ago. Certainly we don't have the forward at the club to play the 4231 formation at present. Obviously a few players still a bit short of starting that may come into the mix (Kalas, Williams, Nagy, Wells, Semenyeo). I get the feeling 2-3 players may be on the move before the end of August. I guess we're waiting for the PL clubs to make some decisions about their squads as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 On today’s showing, and it is only one 45 minute performance, I would happily see Scott play the o’dowda role instead of o’dowda. So much more effective with use of ball, movement, retention and attacking intent and all at the age of 17! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: You're probably right @JonDolman The start of last season under DH seems like a decade ago. Certainly we don't have the forward at the club to play the 4231 formation at present. Obviously a few players still a bit short of starting that may come into the mix (Kalas, Williams, Nagy, Wells, Semenyeo). I get the feeling 2-3 players may be on the move before the end of August. I guess we're waiting for the PL clubs to make some decisions about their squads as well. Nurse gone…..what’s happened to Owura Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, REDOXO said: I wouldn’t laugh at that. Semenyo just needs to learn how to keep his head in front of goal. If he can add that we have the Jamie Vardy type Pearson wants. Despite some of the idiot comments on another thread I am very upbeat about the season. I totally agree, talk of finishing 20th and being happy is ludicrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Semenyo is no way the answer. Why not? Young but with some Championship experience, pacy which Is a nightmare for defenders. No doubt Nige and his coaches will have worked with him on his composure in front of goal. I reckon Semenyo will be a surprise package this coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Semenyo at 21 can definitely grow. Ian Wright played his first pro match at 22. There’s time. The question is, how much time will BCFC give him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Wasn’t at the game today, but surely when Semenyo comes back we could push Weimann centrally again? People might not think he’s a 20 a goal season but if Reid can do it Iv no doubt Weimann can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, brad blit said: Wasn’t at the game today, but surely when Semenyo comes back we could push Weimann centrally again? People might not think he’s a 20 a goal season but if Reid can do it Iv no doubt Weimann can I would like to see Wells with Weimann as his secondary striker. You could play Nagy RM/RW if you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 It’s not just a striker issue though is it? We have such a lack of creativity in the side getting a decent striker is half the problem. Weimann, COD & Palmer will struggle to create chances consistently and offer any genuine quality in the final third. On the plus side Weimann will weigh in with a few goals. I also think Semenyo returning will help us & he will have a big part to play this year. We have the makings of a good side but we really need to improve in the final third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big dosser Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 the problem we have is im not sure there are 2 many forwards out there in a decent price range. I would stick with semenyo as i think he will come good with hopefully a new positive style we will play{im praying for attack minded football} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, brad blit said: Wasn’t at the game today, but surely when Semenyo comes back we could push Weimann centrally again? People might not think he’s a 20 a goal season but if Reid can do it Iv no doubt Weimann can If you'd of seen Weimanns shot in the first half when put through on goal, you'd know why he's not the answer up front. Wells played through the middle for a run of games with some more positive minded players around him is the sort of player we need up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Maybe Semenyo is the man. This team needs final third pace And someone who scores goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I know we won some games at the start of the season but I thought stylistically it didnt look right for it to work over the season. I think that 352 and the way we played it required 2 up top that could both link play with their backs to goal, and that's why the few times we saw Semenyo up there with Martin I thought it looked more promising. In a 352 type system with Wells up top, I would want someone like Weimann alongside him with an attacking midfielder in behind them. A bit more like the Afobe and Weimann of the start of the previous season. As it is with the one striker, I thought Martin actually played well today. He was involved in a fair few of our decent chances 2nd half. He looks very fit. As long as he has 3 mobile runners in the 3 behind him then it might be fine. Conway is an option too. And a bit surprised he was only involved for the 23s. I thought Martin was ok today also…..think some fans have made up their minds though. He even ran the channel second half!! What we need Martin to be is fit and sharp…not tired / fatigued….and ready to play whatever part is needed of him. Some starts, some subs. We have a squad of players with similar levels. The key will be to pick them appropriately. Really is no point in trying to pick a best eleven, there are too many interchangeable players. Some will feature more than others, but that’s football. Re Conway, yep, just imagine that even if we rate them highly there is gonna be a tough job making a EFL match day 18. Some of the “older” players might not get in either. Maybe there was little chance of minutes if Martin starts / Wells sub….whereas “Belly” given minutes over Janneh to see him as Callum’s sub. As you’ll see below, Nige has spread minutes out pretty well. Most of the Senior players have had good run-outs, Kalas maybe a bit under-cooked. I would imagine Nige is pretty happy. No serious injuries during pre-season either. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought Martin was ok today also…..think some fans have made up their minds though. He even ran the channel second half!! What we need Martin to be is fit and sharp…not tired / fatigued….and ready to play whatever part is needed of him. Some starts, some subs. We have a squad of players with similar levels. The key will be to pick them appropriately. Really is no point in trying to pick a best eleven, there are too many interchangeable players. Some will feature more than others, but that’s football. Re Conway, yep, just imagine that even if we rate them highly there is gonna be a tough job making a EFL match day 18. Some of the “older” players might not get in either. Maybe there was little chance of minutes if Martin starts / Wells sub….whereas “Belly” given minutes over Janneh to see him as Callum’s sub. As you’ll see below, Nige has spread minutes out pretty well. Most of the Senior players have had good run-outs, Kalas maybe a bit under-cooked. I would imagine Nige is pretty happy. No serious injuries during pre-season either. . He looked like he'd swum it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: He looked like he'd swum it Against the tide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 We also need a bloody winger absolutely zero quality in the wide areas and today showed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, lukebcfc1989 said: Get your wallet out Lansdown if you won’t invest in the team I won’t be investing in a season ticket! Sure SL must be rushing for the cheque book, worried that someone who has not bought a season ticket a week before the season starts might not buy one. Difference is, SL has invested millions in BCFC without any guarantees he will get a return, most fans buy a season ticket out of love of watching there team play and continue in hope thru good and bad times. But you won't "invest", its not an investment its a a purchase, you are getting to watch games of football and a guaranteed seat in return. Think you are better off staying at home and counting your pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, brad blit said: Wasn’t at the game today, but surely when Semenyo comes back we could push Weimann centrally again? People might not think he’s a 20 a goal season but if Reid can do it Iv no doubt Weimann can Not even a ten goal a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 3 hours ago, pl00peh91 said: We’ve needed a RB for about 15 years in fairness Within the last 15 years Bradley Orr got in the Championship team of the season, so that’s clearly bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 if we were targeting a striker, who is out there we could at this point realistically get? I don’t imagine there is a free agent who’d be looking at 15+ goals not yet signed up, so who’s worth targeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Martin had a very good first half but we do lack 'someone to put the ball in the back of the net', now where have I heard that before ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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