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If players are going out, keep in mind there will be a recall option in the mid season window. 
 

Players need to be playing is my thought. What ever anyone thinks about the need for a new striker we do actually have a load of forwards who are all looking like they can have good careers

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1 minute ago, REDOXO said:

If players are going out, keep in mind there will be a recall option in the mid season window. 
 

Players need to be playing is my thought. What ever anyone thinks about the need for a new striker we do actually have a load of forwards who are all looking like they can have good careers

Yep. The way I look at it is Conway and Janneh should be better by January if they've been playing most of that time in league one. Rather than not playing in the championship. 

Nige says they are backing the first team players to stay fit. So even if these 2 head out on loan I don't think that necessarily means we will see a new forward, as Nige wants a smaller squad where everyone feels close to the first team.

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6 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

I thought it seemed conway was ahead of Bell but shows how much we know. We got promising players and hopefully they can all push the experienced players. Especially Scott who could be our next big player 

Don't forget that it was Bell who was getting the opportunities last season until he got injured, then Conway stepped in for him.

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7 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Players need to be playing is my thought. What ever anyone thinks about the need for a new striker we do actually have a load of forwards who are all looking like they can have good careers

Agreed. And, if we're being completely honest, the chances of all 4 of Bell, Britton, Conway and Janneh becoming established first teamers for us are probably very small. However if we can get them a taste of this level and the opportunities to test themselves a bit lower down the pyramid, the ones that don't quite make it here can still go on to have good careers elsewhere.

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15 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Cheltenham usually play 2 strikers

So Cheltenham are planning a league 1 campaign based on playing two rookie loanee strikers up front.  Really?  It may well be true.  As I said I’m very much not ITK, but it does seem odd for Conway and Janneh to go to the same club when there are probably other clubs interested in loaning them separately.

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2 minutes ago, Malago said:

So Cheltenham are planning a league 1 campaign based on playing two rookie loanee strikers up front.  Really?

Janneh isn't primarily a striker, more of a wide forward.

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5 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Talk on social media that both might be heading to Cheltenham on loan.

Nothing on the OS………The usual wild speculation and rumour on social media. I’m expecting Conway to be around the matchday squad particularly as Nige thinks we’re short of a striker.

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7 minutes ago, Malago said:

So Cheltenham are planning a league 1 campaign based on playing two rookie loanee strikers up front.  Really?  It may well be true.  As I said I’m very much not ITK, but it does seem odd for Conway and Janneh to go to the same club when there are probably other clubs interested in loaning them separately.

Just saying Cheltenham usually play 2 strikers so it's not like only one striker will get in the team.

Janneh played wing back in a recent 23s game, and has been playing on the wing in City friendlies.

Not sure what role Cheltenham would have for him.

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2 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Only a friendly but Bell was seriously impressive on the left against Villa. Looks a lot stronger than last season. Fantastic energy and intelligent movement. Looks like he can dribble too.

Pearson could be thinking something like this when thinking of the attacking depth in our squad and who generally will play where in the 4231.

 

A.

      Weimann  Palmer   O'Dowda 

                        Martin

B. 

       Semenyo   Scott    Bell 

                         Wells 

     

That's just 2 examples and not necessarily first and second best attacking line ups. 8 players fighting for 4 positions.

Obviously if we sign an attacking player or 2 then that completely changes things!

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41 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said:

I thought it seemed conway was ahead of Bell but shows how much we know. We got promising players and hopefully they can all push the experienced players. Especially Scott who could be our next big player 

Think we are seeing the usual rating of youngsters emerging, based on snippets of minutes, and the latest good performance pushing a particular player forward….Bell and Scott the latest to benefit.  A week ago it was Janneh, last season was Conway, etc etc.  The main thing is that it’s all positive views…long may it continue.

We have been talking about Bell, Conway, Janneh and Britton in the main as centre-forwards on differing types, but now we are seeing Bell and Janneh wide left, which makes direct comparison more difficult, either in terms of staying here or going on loan….there are different considerations as a result.

Never clearcut is it?

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17 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

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Think we are seeing the usual rating of youngsters emerging, based on snippets of minutes, and the latest good performance pushing a particular player forward….Bell and Scott the latest to benefit.  A week ago it was Janneh, last season was Conway, etc etc.  The main thing is that it’s all positive views…long may it continue.

We have been talking about Bell, Conway, Janneh and Britton in the main as centre-forwards on differing types, but now we are seeing Bell and Janneh wide left, which makes direct comparison more difficult, either in terms of staying here or going on loan….there are different considerations as a result.

Never clearcut is it?

I would be very surprised if Scott is not close to the first team. I can't be so sure on Bell, but very positive what we saw on the weekend.

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3 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

I would be very surprised if Scott is not close to the first team. I can't be so sure on Bell, but very positive what we saw on the weekend.

Scott, as we sit here today, is gonna be a regular in the 18 imho, you know I don’t really do “starters” or “best eleven”.  I see no benefit to send him on loan this side of Xmas whilst he’s on a bit of a progressive “roll”.  If he plateaus, drops off, gets found to be deficient in anyway, no harm in looking at loan in January.  Doesn’t look likely based on his contribution last season and this pre-season….but Champ football can be brutal.

All the others (Bell and Conway in particular) will depend on availability and form of others….and their own form  (if they stay here during this window).

Its massively healthy though, Academy really bearing fruit….many look like having EFL careers in some shape or form, which is a fantastic.  A number look to have at least the opportunity at this level, which is even better.  Some will fall by the wayside, but several are still really young too.

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Scott, as we sit here today, is gonna be a regular in the 18 imho, you know I don’t really do “starters” or “best eleven”.  I see no benefit to send him on loan this side of Xmas whilst he’s on a bit of a progressive “roll”.  If he plateaus, drops off, gets found to be deficient in anyway, no harm in looking at loan in January.  Doesn’t look likely based on his contribution last season and this pre-season….but Champ football can be brutal.

All the others (Bell and Conway in particular) will depend on availability and form of others….and their own form  (if they stay here during this window).

Its massively healthy though, Academy really bearing fruit….many look like having EFL careers in some shape or form, which is a fantastic.  A number look to have at least the opportunity at this level, which is even better.  Some will fall by the wayside, but several are still really young too.

Yep. I do think though with Semenyo out injured and only Weimann and O'Dowda as the recognised senior wingers, that gives Bell or one of the others a good chance of being sub and coming off the bench with 20 to go.

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25 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Scott, as we sit here today, is gonna be a regular in the 18 imho, you know I don’t really do “starters” or “best eleven”.  I see no benefit to send him on loan this side of Xmas whilst he’s on a bit of a progressive “roll”.  If he plateaus, drops off, gets found to be deficient in anyway, no harm in looking at loan in January.  Doesn’t look likely based on his contribution last season and this pre-season….but Champ football can be brutal.

All the others (Bell and Conway in particular) will depend on availability and form of others….and their own form  (if they stay here during this window).

Its massively healthy though, Academy really bearing fruit….many look like having EFL careers in some shape or form, which is a fantastic.  A number look to have at least the opportunity at this level, which is even better.  Some will fall by the wayside, but several are still really young too.

 

Heartily agree. If they are 'on the verge' keep 'em here.  We haven't a huge squad any more, chances will come.

Loans can push a player on, but occasionally we've seen them halting or even reversing the progress a young player is making.  It's quite a finely judged thing deciding what is best in each case.

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Well they cannot all develop in the first team at BCFC , but there is also a good chance that many of these players will be part of our squad in 3 years time. Opportunities will depend on who is fit and on the payroll at any time. If you look at Leicester , NP did exactly that , his real squad we will see in 3 seasons time. Many have said we should be working with Cheltenham (really talented coach ) , Exeter and FGR far more. 

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38 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

Well they cannot all develop in the first team at BCFC , but there is also a good chance that many of these players will be part of our squad in 3 years time. Opportunities will depend on who is fit and on the payroll at any time. If you look at Leicester , NP did exactly that , his real squad we will see in 3 seasons time. Many have said we should be working with Cheltenham (really talented coach ) , Exeter and FGR far more. 

I suspect Brian Tinnion wouldn’t mind less miles, unless he’s caning it on the expenses 🤣🤣🤣

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1 hour ago, Mr X said:

Looks as if this is going to be the best batch of players coming through together since Coles, Matty Hill, Doc, Burnell etc under Danny Wilson.  

Weren’t their respective high-watermarks achieved here though? Did any of them really go onto great heights elsewhere? Tommy Doc in particular could’ve achieved much more had he really wanted.  

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