Davefevs Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Richard Head said: Oi Bard, I’m from round there. We take it in turns to be the village idiot. As David Lee Roth sang - “They say two fools born a minute Guess that makes me three” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royz Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 5 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Well, that's one word for it . . . I remember a Watford fan described him as a "schmoozer" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: He gets credit for signing 19 players yet there is no inside information on whether they over or underpaid them. Whats funny is ours, Oxford and Watford fans have all expressed disdain for Ashton. But we should be thankful because he left us in a better position!?! hahaha....What scrapping to stay up ? Some of their fans are doughnuts. I still can’t correlate how “all” of these players turned down Championship clubs (some of them top Champ clubs) to sign for Ipswich, AND… how they all took wage cuts, or accepted less from Ipswich than elsewhere, YET… all the 20+ players that left were big earners. I suggest some poetic license, otherwise known as BS don’t you? He knows that they can use the US investment to cover wages in Lg1 SCMP. He can’t do that in the Champ where different rules apply. Should they get promoted, wiggle room for new recruits is gonna be hard. He’s built an expectation, I think he will find it tough next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 53 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I still can’t correlate how “all” of these players turned down Championship clubs (some of them top Champ clubs) to sign for Ipswich, AND… how they all took wage cuts, or accepted less from Ipswich than elsewhere, YET… all the 20+ players that left were big earners. I suggest some poetic license, otherwise known as BS don’t you? He knows that they can use the US investment to cover wages in Lg1 SCMP. He can’t do that in the Champ where different rules apply. Should they get promoted, wiggle room for new recruits is gonna be hard. He’s built an expectation, I think he will find it tough next summer. Big promotion bonuses in all the contracts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Big promotion bonuses in all the contracts ? Promotion bonus is a squad level / club thing….which of course could be large. But you wonder what promotion wage increases might be, don’t you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Promotion bonus is a squad level / club thing….which of course could be large. But you wonder what promotion wage increases might be, don’t you. Yep, to turn down Championship wages (if they did and it's not spin) for a year is big for a player. Then 19 players, all promised a pay rise , with all the inevitable new signings ? He may be lucky, but it does feel familiar doesn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Davefevs said: He’s done another media interview today with the local East Anglian press. Starts off with saying he went after Bersant Celina earlier this summer….before he’d spoken to Paul Cook. It fell through due to Celina having a heart issue which subsequently was resolved prior to deadline day deal. More talk about going after certain players because he knew the agents well. ICM Stellar Sports are a big agency, but - Celina, Burns, Coulson, Chaplin, plus non-Ipswich players Woodrow, Burke and Whatmough (who we were allegedly interested in), Wickham, Dozzell (who they just sold), Morrell (who they tried to sign), Maenpaa. I suspect some of our press might have their contacts in this agency? Then talk of Wes Burns and how he knew him from when he was consultant here, and how he did Wes’s first pro deal, took him to Oxford on loan and how he gets on so well with Wes’s family and “representatives”. Then talks about Kyle Edwards and how the Chairman (O’Leary- ex WBA) said they should sign Edwards….so they did. Both the press guys blowing smoke up his arse….about the hours he works, how many calls he took in a day, etc. Having said that, if you didn’t know his previous form you might think it was all fantastic. From Barnsley? Wouldn't have minded bringing him back here TBH. Edited September 8, 2021 by Ska Junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chinapig Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Only 49 in total? Bet Ashton can't wait for the January transfer window to open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE23Red Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: So MA has gone into a club with 27 youngsters deemed good enough for a pro contract and has seen the need to pack the first team squad with senior players who won't even make the bench. I'm so glad his ideas of what a healthy football club looks like are long gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: That faint sound you can hear is a penny starting to drop. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, chinapig said: Only 49 in total? Bet Ashton can't wait for the January transfer window to open. He's like someone who's nicked a credit card. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 (edited) Regarding the relationship with agents thing. When it comes to Ashton there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that there's something dodgy or inappropriate going on when of course there's absolutely no suggestion there is. When my mum and dad have replaced their car, on the last two occasions they've gone to the same garage and dealt with the same salesman. In all likelihood they'll go there again as a first choice when it comes to replacing their current one. Why? They tell the chap what they want and he finds the right car and gives them a competitive price. All parties are happy. At face value, that would explain why Ashton uses the same agent / agencies on a regular basis. Here's the thing however, Ashton is not buying a complete outfit but parts of one. So, instead of replacing a Ford Fiesta for a Ford Focus, he's buying new tyres, then a new body kit, then a new fuel filter and so on. The way he does his upgrades is by going to the same parts shop every time and by buying parts that look great but may not even fit the car he's buying it for. Of course, he doesn't bother talking to his mechanic about this but relies on Google for his research. He may have a Ford Fiesta but he'll buy a sports exhaust for a Mondeo because Google says its brilliant, then ask his mechanic (Paul Cook) to make the thing fit and get it working. The parts shop (agents( aren't going to question what Ashton's doing because why on earth would you want to stop someone from spending a fortune with you and, after all, it's none of your business why he needs those parts or where they are going to be used. When you find out you can't fit the part or its not working properly it wil just sit in the garage and rust unless you can persuade someone to buy it off you. Sometimes you can't and end up giving them away. Sounds familiar. A Mark Ashton assembled squad: Edited September 10, 2021 by Midlands Robin 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: Regarding the relationship with agents thing. When it comes to Ashton there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that there's something dodgy or inappropriate going on when of course there's absolutely no suggestion there is. When my mum and dad have replaced their car, on the last two occasions they've gone to the same garage and dealt with the same salesman. In all likelihood they'll go there again as a first choice when it comes to replacing their current one. Why? They tell the chap what they want and he finds the right car and gives them a competitive price. All parties are happy. At face value, that would explain why Ashton uses the same agent / agencies on a regular basis. Here's the thing however, Ashton is not buying a complete outfit but parts of one. So, instead of replacing a Ford Fiesta for a Ford Focus, he's buying new tyres, then a new body kit, then a new fuel filter and so on. The way he does his upgrades is by going to the same parts shop every time and by buying parts that look great but may not even fit the car he's buying it for. Of course, he doesn't bother talking to his mechanic about this but relies on Google for his research. He may have a Ford Fiesta but he'll buy a sports exhaust for a Mondeo because Google says its brilliant, then ask his mechanic (Paul Cook) to make the thing fit and get it working. The parts shop (agents( aren't going to question what Ashton's doing because why on earth would you want to stop someone from spending a fortune with you and, after all, it's none of your business why he needs those parts or where they are going to be used. When you find out you can't fit the part or its not working properly it wil just sit in the garage and rust unless you can persuade someone to buy it off you. Sometimes you can't and end up giving them away. Sounds familiar. A Mark Ashton assembled squad: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Midlands Robin said: Regarding the relationship with agents thing. When it comes to Ashton there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that there's something dodgy or inappropriate going on when of course there's absolutely no suggestion there is. When my mum and dad have replaced their car, on the last two occasions they've gone to the same garage and dealt with the same salesman. In all likelihood they'll go there again as a first choice when it comes to replacing their current one. Why? They tell the chap what they want and he finds the right car and gives them a competitive price. All parties are happy. At face value, that would explain why Ashton uses the same agent / agencies on a regular basis. Here's the thing however, Ashton is not buying a complete outfit but parts of one. So, instead of replacing a Ford Fiesta for a Ford Focus, he's buying new tyres, then a new body kit, then a new fuel filter and so on. The way he does his upgrades is by going to the same parts shop every time and by buying parts that look great but may not even fit the car he's buying it for. Of course, he doesn't bother talking to his mechanic about this but relies on Google for his research. He may have a Ford Fiesta but he'll buy a sports exhaust for a Mondeo because Google says its brilliant, then ask his mechanic (Paul Cook) to make the thing fit and get it working. The parts shop (agents( aren't going to question what Ashton's doing because why on earth would you want to stop someone from spending a fortune with you and, after all, it's none of your business why he needs those parts or where they are going to be used. When you find out you can't fit the part or its not working properly it wil just sit in the garage and rust unless you can persuade someone to buy it off you. Sometimes you can't and end up giving them away. Sounds familiar. A Mark Ashton assembled squad: Was gonna write something, then thought better of it!!!! All I would say is that beyond his own salary, his various business interests have taken money out of football clubs in one way or another, from consultancy fees to providing “hospitality / services” to the world of football. Nothing wrong with that per se, but a lot of nepotism in his world. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 @Davefevsthese are the type of people who seemingly walk through the rain without ever getting wet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Midlands Robin said: Regarding the relationship with agents thing. When it comes to Ashton there's always this nagging feeling in the back of your mind that there's something dodgy or inappropriate going on when of course there's absolutely no suggestion there is. When my mum and dad have replaced their car, on the last two occasions they've gone to the same garage and dealt with the same salesman. In all likelihood they'll go there again as a first choice when it comes to replacing their current one. Why? They tell the chap what they want and he finds the right car and gives them a competitive price. All parties are happy. At face value, that would explain why Ashton uses the same agent / agencies on a regular basis. Here's the thing however, Ashton is not buying a complete outfit but parts of one. So, instead of replacing a Ford Fiesta for a Ford Focus, he's buying new tyres, then a new body kit, then a new fuel filter and so on. The way he does his upgrades is by going to the same parts shop every time and by buying parts that look great but may not even fit the car he's buying it for. Of course, he doesn't bother talking to his mechanic about this but relies on Google for his research. He may have a Ford Fiesta but he'll buy a sports exhaust for a Mondeo because Google says its brilliant, then ask his mechanic (Paul Cook) to make the thing fit and get it working. The parts shop (agents( aren't going to question what Ashton's doing because why on earth would you want to stop someone from spending a fortune with you and, after all, it's none of your business why he needs those parts or where they are going to be used. When you find out you can't fit the part or its not working properly it wil just sit in the garage and rust unless you can persuade someone to buy it off you. Sometimes you can't and end up giving them away. Sounds familiar. A Mark Ashton assembled squad: Why not, Johnny Cash did it "One piece at a time" 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Cider Ed Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Conceding 5 at home to Bolton. Its soon going to be time for a rigorous recuitment process. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Preston are just cheating bastards aren’t they, shameless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Just now, TomF said: He’ll be retreating to the bunker shortly Hilarious, one an own goal as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, Northern Cider Ed said: Conceding 5 at home to Bolton. Its soon going to be time for a rigorous recuitment process. Yup I imagine another 20 signings in January and then an entire new squad next summer. But everyone will be on big contracts that will put them on trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 I really hope it goes horribly wrong. It kind of is at the moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 That's what you get when you only sign 19 new players. Ashton's plan for the January window? Sign another 30 new players ! (and earn bucketloads of commission £££ ! ) £pswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Funny as f Down with the Rovers next season I reckon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Funny as f Down with the Rovers next season I reckon You can't drop 2 divisions in 1 season can you? Anyway the Gas are definitely going up according to Innocent Joey Barton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 At what point will Paul Cook be sacked and replaced by Dean Holden? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Just now, chinapig said: At what point will Paul Cook be sacked and replaced by Dean Holden? ...or Michael Appleton... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, chinapig said: At what point will Paul Cook be sacked and replaced by Dean Holden? After 6-8 weeks of "rigorous" searching only to find out that the best person for the job is himself. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke! Long may it continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: That's what you get when you only sign 19 new players. Ashton's plan for the January window? Sign another 30 new players ! (and earn bucketloads of commission £££ ! ) You beat me to it, .it's almost like he gets a back hander for every transfer..........but THAT would be unethical to say the least ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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