Redstart Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Something bugging me, I noticed on the BBC Sport app League Table we are 14th, yet on the Sky League Table we are 11th. Looking it over, Sky have gone with alphabetical for matching teams but BBC have put the teams who got their point away from home as a priority. So for example on the BBC app Middlesboro who drew 1-1 away are shown above the City. Which is actually correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Redstart said: Something bugging me, I noticed on the BBC Sport app League Table we are 14th, yet on the Sky League Table we are 11th. Looking it over, Sky have gone with alphabetical for matching teams but BBC have put the teams who got their point away from home as a priority. So for example on the BBC app Middlesboro who drew 1-1 away are shown above the City. Which is actually correct? No point whatsoever in looking at the league table untill ten matches have been played - at this point I feel is where the table "starts". What's the point looking when you can have a third of the division 'joint bottem??...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Just now, Son of Fred said: No point whatsoever in looking at the league table untill ten matches have been played - at this point I feel is where the table "starts". What's the point looking when you can have a third of the division 'joint bottem??...... Why not answer his question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Let me see the rules I hope the BBC are wrong..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 I was wondering this too when I saw they had West Brom top after their draw at Bournemouth. Just looked it up and away goals are used in the event of everything else being equal. So the BBC are correct here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 City website has us 14th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 It goes a fair bit deeper than that after too https://www.efl.com/siteassets/governance-review-june-2019/regulations-season-2021-22-final.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Roe said: It goes a fair bit deeper than that after too https://www.efl.com/siteassets/governance-review-june-2019/regulations-season-2021-22-final.pdf I just made exactly the same screenshot nimble finger's but sadly the BBC are more right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Redstart said: Something bugging me, I noticed on the BBC Sport app League Table we are 14th, yet on the Sky League Table we are 11th. Looking it over, Sky have gone with alphabetical for matching teams but BBC have put the teams who got their point away from home as a priority. So for example on the BBC app Middlesboro who drew 1-1 away are shown above the City. Which is actually correct? Which one were you looking at mate? This one has us @14th https://www.skysports.com/championship-table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 I would take 11th or 14th all day long, end it now !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 This is huge. Top Half Pearson stays. Bottom half Pearson out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: No point whatsoever in looking at the league table untill ten matches have been played - at this point I feel is where the table "starts". What's the point looking when you can have a third of the division 'joint bottem??...... I’m not sure that’s the point of the original post is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, Redstart said: Something bugging me, I noticed on the BBC Sport app League Table we are 14th, yet on the Sky League Table we are 11th. Looking it over, Sky have gone with alphabetical for matching teams but BBC have put the teams who got their point away from home as a priority. So for example on the BBC app Middlesboro who drew 1-1 away are shown above the City. Which is actually correct? 11th or 14th I'm happy with - lets end the season now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, weepywall said: I would take 11th or 14th all day long, end it now !! STOP THE COUNT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: I’m not sure that’s the point of the original post is it? Pedantry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted August 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Thanks for the responses folks, I know it counts for nowt at this point but not knowing why something is off really bugs me. The Sky table I referenced was on the Sky Sports show this morning, so I'll stick to the BBC Sport app now. Cheers again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 Alphabetical order is meaningless. You can’t be above another team on alphabetical order, so all teams with completely identical records are therefore equal. However, there is no way of depicting that in tabular form, so most publishers go for alphabetical order just so as to be able to explain what order the teams are in. So the answer is it doesn’t matter what order teams with identical records are shown in, they’re still equal. I think. I believe if teams finished the season with identical records there would have to be a playoff if promotion or relegation was involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 10, 2021 Report Share Posted August 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Alphabetical order is meaningless. You can’t be above another team on alphabetical order, so all teams with completely identical records are therefore equal. However, there is no way of depicting that in tabular form, so most publishers go for alphabetical order just so as to be able to explain what order the teams are in. So the answer is it doesn’t matter what order teams with identical records are shown in, they’re still equal. I think. I believe if teams finished the season with identical records there would have to be a playoff if promotion or relegation was involved. It's a playoff regardless of whether or not relegation/promotion is involved. After you've gone through the procedures that @Lorenzos Only Goal sets out above, if still tied then there's a points system that counts up disciplinary offences incurred across the season. The team with fewer "penalty points" gets the higher league spot. If tied on those penalty points, then its done on number of red cards. If that still cannot separate two teams, then the final method is indeed a a playoff under Rule 9.8. Essentially it is: Points; Goal Difference; Goals scored; League record between the teams concerned; Number of wins; Away goals; Fair play - the penalty points system; Red cards; and finally Play-off. Obviously, and fortunately we rarely have to go beyond number 3 in this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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