Davefevs Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: I have to admit to being very big on xG and Infogol. It's dizzying to see us racking up 2.18 xG in a game after last season! Believe it or not I don’t go huge on it, but like the xG timelines that Experimental 361 create because they show the flow / sequence of chances. Together with things like passing rate, pressing (PPDA) etc you can build a picture of the game. Still balls in the onion bag that count….but whereas last season we were near the bottom of lots of team stats, this season (very small sample) we have improved a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, mozo said: and made a strange connection for the shot which found an impossible corner of the net. So a possible one then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Your second para is much more polite than what’s going through my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: Really insightful interview. But the stats and your favourite xG completely bear out what happened. A broken clock is correct twice per day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, old_eastender said: arguably so, but Bents should save the shot He was doing the Time Warp in reverse, it was just a step to the right and then a jump to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: I love this board, In general all for freedom of speech, but hate it when someone has a different view and openly want to 'cancel' them. We won, it's a about sodding time. I thought the fuming, the anger if you will came from passion and that we made it harder than we bloody had too. It's actually a good thing. However the responses so far around that comment show more about the posters than the actualities To you perhaps, to me it's different, it's a different way of seeing the same thing. You say tomayto I say tomato etc. Picture still versus an interview, nice false equivalence there See above regarding tomayto vs tomato. See the same thing differently I'm actually very happy and glad of the win. How's that constant antagonism and piss poor attempt at trolling working out for you? ---------- Agree with @spudski again about AW he was initially brought in to replicate the Bobby Reid role and if played centrally consistently or in the right way would always be a threat and has proven so. We haven't had a piss poor team, we've actually got an awesome team, and hopefully this will help with confidence for rest of the season and NP can show more consistently what we have. We needed a win and so glad we have that. I hope it's more than a blip and can shke off the nervous anxiety that plagued last year. It's great to finally say we won and hopefully we can do it again on Friday. I am surprised by the description of ‘awesome’. I’d use that word to describe a league winning side, definitely not a likely lower half side. What does ‘awesome’ mean to you in this context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: A broken clock is correct twice per day ! My Casio isn't, just the once, but look at the colour of that LED digital read-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: I've said it across a few threads, but having a mix of seasoned internationals (Kalas, Weimann, Wells, Nagy, CoDetc) or ex internationals (Martin, unless his form earns a call up) along with some massively exciting youth/youngsters (Scott, Massengo, Atkinson, Semenyo, Janneh, Conway etc) means like last year we have a squad who could and should do this. Many will disagree, however I think it is one of the best squads we've ever had tbh. Ok, and where would you expect this ‘awesome’ squad to finish then realistically? I must say it’s interesting you don’t include the likes of James who’s clearly a very strong player and has made a big contribution already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 hours ago, David Brent said: You’re my favourite parody account I sense that 'Nige is fuming' could become an OTIB meme... 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: Really insightful interview. But the stats and your favourite xG completely bear out what happened. Yeah that's what it seemed like 7 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said: So a possible one then! Well they didn't call the films Mission Only Barely Possible If Tom Cruise Absolutely Nails Some Ridiculous Stunts, did they?! That goal was Mission No Way Can Liam Moore Score From There Unless He Gets A Completely Jammy Toe Poke To the Bottom Corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 9 hours ago, David Brent said: You’re my favourite parody account Oh, that genuinely hadn't occurred to me. A very good one if so.. I can usually spot them. I wonder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge is a robin Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Didn't we do that in the friendlies? Plymouth and Exeter Yea but friendlies dont count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just watched the highlights, not that if matters but I noticed both teams in white shorts which is common in Premier League but I can't recall it happening very often for City matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 15 hours ago, 42nite said: Can you play right back? No not a hope, I used to play in midfield and wasn't tall enough for defence. I could shift when I needed to, but not fast enough to avoid a knee injury that finished my playing days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: Didn't see this earlier Regards squad and finish, anywhere from 4th to 17th which was my last year pick iirc. Re James, i didn't include everyone in the post, cos could have got finger cramp. For me there's one exception, but that's just me, however the squad as a whole has unbelievable potential if it can come together consistently. Sorted. 4th - 17th is a very broad stroke. Wouldn’t say that’s specific enough to be much of a prediction. For argument’s sake then; we finish 17th. Is that still an awesome squad? I’d say pretty clearly it isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: It's what we do with that potential that matters, for way too long we've sat on it, squandered it or misused it whilst here. We can still have an awesome squad, only for it not to come off for whatever reason. You may disagree but it works for me. Interesting. Personally, I think your framing of the squad as "awesome" is so that if the squad doesn't achieve "awesome" things you can use it as a stick to beat Pearson with. You may disagree, but it works for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Interesting. Personally, I think your framing of the squad as "awesome" is so that if the squad doesn't achieve "awesome" things you can use it as a stick to beat Pearson with. You may disagree, but it works for me! I wouldn’t engage anymore. I am convinced RMLF is a plant to make the reasonably switched on City supporters, many of who have followed the team for years and some who, no doubt have played to a reasonable standard too, question everything we know or thought we knew about football. Quite what benefit the poster gets from continually taking an anti-populous and irrational view and then arguing it within an inch of its life, whilst winding themselves up into a frenzy on most threads is what I cannot figure out. As I have found out, any attempts to sensibly debate or question quickly spirals into a surreal black hole of nonsense. The fact that Ralph Milne was one of favourite players as a kid makes this even more irritating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: I wouldn’t engage anymore. I am convinced RMLF is a plant to make the reasonably switched on City supporters, many of who have followed the team for years and some who, no doubt have played to a reasonable standard too, question everything we know or thought we knew about football. Quite what benefit the poster gets from continual anti-populous or rational view and then arguing it within an inch of its life, whilst winding themselves up into a frenzy on most threads is what I cannot figure out. As I have found out, any attempts to sensibly debate or question quickly spirals into a surreal black hole of nonsense. The fact that Ralph Milne was one of favourite players as a kid makes this even more irritating! Haha, I am just enjoying humouring them really the same way I'd humour Robbored. I think it was right in this instance to highlight the dastardly and nefarious intentions behind describing the squad as "awesome" as I'm convinced that's their true motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Phileas Fogg said: Haha, I am just enjoying humouring them really the same way I'd humour Robbored. I think it was right in this instance to highlight true dastardly and nefarious intentions behind describing the squad as "awesome" as I'm convinced that's their true motive. A quick read through the “Pearson Out” thread, will quickly highlight the narrative from said poster. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: A quick read through the “Pearson Out” thread, will quickly highlight the narrative from said poster. Bizarre. What was particularly strange about that was the fabrication that there was heavy "Pearson Out" sentiment on social media.. but no links or screenshots to any of course. It's just strange rhetoric at odds with what most people can see. I have no problem with people having different views, but their style of debate is designed and executed effectively to be as controversial as possible. You can express doubts about the management without being so divisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 After such a long wait, I'm savouring the pleasure that goes with having won a game. Almost forgot just how wonderful it feels. Long may it last. Now that they have a notable win under their belt, I hope the players have greater belief, more confidence in their abilities and a burning desire to keep scoring loads of goals and winning games. If so, and especially if they can get another consecutive win against Swansea, they are capable (with the addition of one or two quality signings) of accumulating a decent haul of points and become contenders for a top six position. I realise I'm being overly optimistic because of the feel-good factor, but it's a nice change from coming on here to have another whinge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 hours ago, And Its Smith said: A broken clock is correct twice per day ! Boom 58 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: I wouldn’t engage anymore. I am convinced RMLF is a plant to make the reasonably switched on City supporters, many of who have followed the team for years and some who, no doubt have played to a reasonable standard too, question everything we know or thought we knew about football. Quite what benefit the poster gets from continually taking an anti-populous and irrational view and then arguing it within an inch of its life, whilst winding themselves up into a frenzy on most threads is what I cannot figure out. As I have found out, any attempts to sensibly debate or question quickly spirals into a surreal black hole of nonsense. The fact that Ralph Milne was one of favourite players as a kid makes this even more irritating! Not sure I’ve read anything that makes me question anything I know about football. Lots of other posters make me take a second look / thought. Sounds like you’ve typed the post I drafted and deleted last night….albeit slightly more politely than I would’ve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Boom Not sure I’ve read anything that makes me question anything I know about football. Lots of other posters make me take a second look / thought. Sounds like you’ve typed the post I drafted and deleted last night….albeit slightly more politely than I would’ve. Don’t worry - I am still convinced I know what I am on about and want to see despite these numerous tests!! Plus - I really want this deleted post to see the light of day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Not the first or last poster to be hounded by some on here for merely having their own views. Sad from those who really should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 8 hours ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said: @TomF If you wouldn't mind I'd like my account deleted and forgotten in keeping with GDPR and before that I'd love to make a Subject Access Request of all the posts and reports and data held with variations of or PM's and reports which mention this user name or any abbreviations thereof. Much obliged Hi @RalphMilnesLeftFoot please can you put this in writing to privacy@cliksoftware.com and I will get it processed - just so we can verify that this request is coming directly from the email address/account holder. With regards to a subject access request, please note that forum posts, reports and personal messages are not personally identifiable information. Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, glos old boy said: Not the first or last poster to be hounded by some on here for merely having their own views. Sad from those who really should know better. Yep. After all, it’s not unreasonable to question Pearson’s performance based on his record here so far. Holden gets lambasted as if he was an idiot while NP is to be given forever, based on the fact that apparently he can’t be expected to achieve anything with the hopeless players we have. For what it’s worth I’m always in favour of giving managers time to settle in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, glos old boy said: Not the first or last poster to be hounded by some on here for merely having their own views. Sad from those who really should know better. It depends on how you look at it. I might argue that some of the posters you maybe referring to are the ones doing the hounding. It’s a fine line. The person in question above has been responsible for a fair bit of “attacking the poster, not the post”, name-calling, etc. Most posters on this forum are able to have a debate from different sides of the coin. There are some that can’t. There are some that want to drive a negative agenda. That is their prerogative, but expect there to be those who challenge, or ask why. It’s a forum, a forum that is at its best when you get good discussion back and forth. Plus….Posting words can lose context over the spoken word admittedly, hence why we do see the odd “argument” on here. That’s normal, and usually gets sorted with an “ok, let’s agree to disagree”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, glos old boy said: Not the first or last poster to be hounded by some on here for merely having their own views. Sad from those who really should know better. Hardly. The poster appears to have left because they do not like the opposing views that others have had and then decides to take a very unusual and difficult position when expressing their reasons why. The poster appears to have left under their own free-will because they do not like sensible debate on a football forum, citing the reason why as the very reason they have a problem in the first place. I would suggest that a break from here is perhaps not a bad thing for the poster, who whilst I am sure is a massive City fan, seems to see a lot of other things and factors that ultimately lead to a negative experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It depends on how you look at it. I might argue that some of the posters you maybe referring to are the ones doing the hounding. It’s a fine line. The person in question above has been responsible for a fair bit of “attacking the poster, not the post”, name-calling, etc. Most posters on this forum are able to have a debate from different sides of the coin. There are some that can’t. There are some that want to drive a negative agenda. That is their prerogative, but expect there to be those who challenge, or ask why. It’s a forum, a forum that is at its best when you get good discussion back and forth. Plus….Posting words can lose context over the spoken word admittedly, hence why we do see the odd “argument” on here. That’s normal, and usually gets sorted with an “ok, let’s agree to disagree”. Exactly. I appreciate that the poster in question had been in several fairly heated debates with many users on this forum, but the reply below seems to have been the final straw. I don't think anyone could argue that reply broke any rules or "hounded" the poster. It even contains a de facto "let's agree to disagree" at the end. It would be a shame if said poster really does want to finish using the forum, but I think that even in debates that have got quite heated they've absolutely given as good as they've got (and more). 18 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Interesting. Personally, I think your framing of the squad as "awesome" is so that if the squad doesn't achieve "awesome" things you can use it as a stick to beat Pearson with. You may disagree, but it works for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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