ScottishRed Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, gavlin said: Glasgow Rangers close to signing a midfielder is that Nagy. If he can’t settle in Bristol there is zero chance that Glasgow would suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyed Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Seems like a deal is close - reliable Italian reporter: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 That is about as reliable a source as they come. Looks like he is off then. I hold no ill will towards him. Just wasn’t a great fit for the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Seems plausible, a bit of quick research shows they’ve just been taken over by a billionaire, hopefully this frees up wages for a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Yep he’s gone then. Time things started moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Bologna were interested again, but I heard he’s leaning towards Pisa. Can team up with Eros Pisano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 can start on signing some players now. Striker winger and rb needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Marco the red said: Even if its £0 it does free up a lot of wages, guessing between 12-15k? Nagy at the start of the season was worth £750k (amortised £2.25m over 2 of his 3 year contract). Wages alleged £16-18k p.w so let’s say his wages were £850k p.a. So his cost for the rest of the season is roughly £1.5m of our planned budget this year. I don’t think he will go for nothing, but getting him off the books is the main thing. Last thing we actually want (assuming he really wants to go) is to hang around and see out his contract. If we did let him go for zilch, then it will mean a loss / impairment in the “transfer profit” column though, but as you say saves wage spend. Lets hope this is a goer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Don't hold your breath on the fee. Just gonna ask for the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Looks like it's basically done. One Italian paper stating "Adam Nagy will be, bar a sensational twist, a player for Pisa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Marco the red said: The key for me is ultimately, does this mean with him going we are able to get someone else in. My guess is yes. If things are as tight as they seem, then assuming this isn’t to just clear a deficit, then yes….but you don’t sign a striker “who can stick the ball in the net” for that….no one who’s proven anyway. 1 minute ago, Marco the red said: -kid and family abroad -covid -brexit shambles -put in a request Zero chance he wants to hang around in my honest opinion. Agree. A necessary sell imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If things are as tight as they seem, then assuming this isn’t to just clear a deficit, then yes….but you don’t sign a striker “who can stick the ball in the net” for that….no one who’s proven anyway. Agree. A necessary sell imho. No, but we presumably don't have 0 to spend, so it would add to the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 Never seemed to settle, good but bit part player, maybe the Championship was too physical, decent youngsters coming through, good Euros. Good sell at maybe €2M? Only a year left on his contract apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: No, but we presumably don't have 0 to spend, so it would add to the pot. Hopefully 5 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Never seemed to settle, good but bit part player, maybe the Championship was too physical, decent youngsters coming through, good Euros. Good sell at maybe €2M? Only a year left on his contract apparently. If we get €2m, Richard Gould has done extremely well imho. I’d take half that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 22, 2021 Report Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Marco the red said: If we get a million I would snap there hands off, go to Rotherham offer it for Smith and pay him 10k a week. I'm hoping for a 7 figure fee for Nagy. I'd be a bit underwhelmed if we went for Michael Smith though - doesn't really feel like much of an improvement on what we've got. Remember that NP noted goal scoring as a key trait in the striker he's looking for too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 25 minutes ago, Marco the red said: I don't think there is a chance we will get a proven goalscorer for 1 million, remember we got Wells and he cost 5 mil, ok pre covid but still he is a 1 in 3/4, proven goalscorer in the current market with the funds we have available just isn't realistic in my honest opinion. Smith suits the way that NP clearly wants to play, direct and physical. I hate the term "proven". In practice it usually just means "I've heard of him before", "he's been around a while", or "he had a good season once". Look in the right places and there are players with ability available at a discounted rate relative to "proven Championship goalscorers". Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if that's roughly what we're doing, and we bring in a player from abroad. Worth noting that the fee from Nagy possibly (likely?) isn't all we'd have available. The Nagy fee would just add to that sum. Smith isn't a significant improvement for me. Okay, he's a bit more mobile than Martin, and slightly younger/fitter too. However, he's never scored (or looked like scoring) more than 10 in a Championship season, and in less than 2 months will be into his 30's. I really feel we should be looking to fill the "mid twenties void" if we're bringing in a new striker. In his search for a striker, I wouldn't be surprised if NP viewed goalscoring, pace/movement, and ability to press as equally important to size/strength. Of course we don't know exactly what he's looking for (it may well be a classic target man), but I don't think there's any guarantee that it's the simple 'big lump' that some seem to be expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Decent player, clearly good for his country as we saw in the Summer and varied Internationals have shown- only showed in flashes here, think in a different Championship side ie more emphasis on possession dominance, perhaps a 3 in CM etc he could have flourished more. On the transfer note it would go down as an Impairment but it would also eliminate the final year of Amortisation on disposal- so a loss in the P&L Transfer wise but the cost of Amortisation remaining could be equal to the remaining book value and cancel out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Ill take him to parson st if the train goes from there to pisa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, archie andrews said: Ill take him to parson st if the train goes from there to pisa... of course it does. Parson St Station is not only the door to the known world but to Hogwarts and Narnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Bottom line is that Nagy has been a disappointment and slipped down the pecking order and has asked to leave. That means it’s almost inevitable that he’ll be off somewhere. Italy would be an ideal location. Nice food and lovely weather and an opportunity to play regular football. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Bottom line is that Nagy has been a disappointment and slipped down the pecking order and has asked to leave. That means it’s almost inevitable that he’ll be off somewhere. Italy would be an ideal location. Nice food and lovely weather and an opportunity to play regular football. Good luck to him. I hope you’re not taking part in wild speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Henry said: I hope you’re not taking part in wild speculation? Nagy has asked to leave so he’s obviously off somewhere so no I’m not engaging in wild speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 Good luck to him wish him well. Could be a busy week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Robbored said: Nagy has asked to leave so he’s obviously off somewhere so no I’m not engaging in wild speculation. Was it reported on the OS that he's "asked to leave"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 I have a horrible feeling this is a free transfer & we are going to be subsidising his wages for the remainder of his contract with us. Mark Ashton strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyed Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I have a horrible feeling this is a free transfer & we are going to be subsidising his wages for the remainder of his contract with us. Mark Ashton strikes again. I think Pisa are paying decent fees for players with them just being taken over by a billionaire.. I doubt we'll get what we paid, but I doubt it will be free or that we'll be paying wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buckeyed said: I think Pisa are paying decent fees for players with them just being taken over by a billionaire.. I doubt we'll get what we paid, but I doubt it will be free or that we'll be paying wages. Agreed. Nagy is probably close to the peak of his value now after the Euros. I can't imagine this'll be free. Difficult to know in the Covid market but a fee of just under £1m seems realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Agreed. Nagy is probably close to the peak of his value now after the Euros. I can't imagine this'll be free. Difficult to know in the Covid market but a fee of just under £1m seems realistic. Mr Gould’s first transfer negotiation - be interesting to see how he does I’d be disappointed if we didn’t get £1m-plus for Nagy though…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Loosey Boy said: Mr Gould’s first transfer negotiation - be interesting to see how he does I’d be disappointed if we didn’t get £1m-plus for Nagy though…. Yeah, in normal times I'd agree - just difficult to know in the current market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 23, 2021 Report Share Posted August 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Agreed. Nagy is probably close to the peak of his value now after the Euros. I can't imagine this'll be free. Difficult to know in the Covid market but a fee of just under £1m seems realistic. Take the point but Nagy’s performances in the Euros are already a bit of a memory. Since then he is now effectively a player who wants to leave England who can’t even make the bench of a Championship side. If the best (only?) offer is a team in Serie B then we have a very weak hand, we might be able to get them to pay a small fee but no way will they match his reputed £16k a week wages, so he is fully entitled to ask us to make up the difference to leave. I am nowhere near as au fait with financial matters as others, but this looks more like a hit than any boost to our transfer funds to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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