Unan Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 So I’ve put this in the main forum as it’s not a rumour or a suggestion. However, I’ve just seen he is still a free agent and has received 0 offers this summer. What would he have to do for you to take him? Pay as you play? 3k a week? He has obvious quavers legs, but it seems like such a waste of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Refuse to believe he has received 0 offers. Much more likely he’s receiving offers from lower Championship clubs but expecting Premier League wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posset red Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 k a week ? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: So I’ve put this in the main forum as it’s not a rumour or a suggestion. However, I’ve just seen he is still a free agent and has received 0 offers this summer. What would he have to do for you to take him? Pay as you play? 3k a week? He has obvious quavers legs, but it seems like such a waste of talent. No one does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 I feel if anyone could get something out of him it would be Rennie. Ironically one of Jacks worst injuries came while Rolls was at Arsenal. There's a shock. Overall would be completely dependant on wages. If we could play him alongside Massengo as cover/rotate with James could be an option. Would allow us to loan out Bakinson - who I'm not sure suites our current style with regards to the workrate Nige demands off ball. Would have to see whether his legs are truly shot for ourselves ultimately, and unlikely to happen. If he proves fitness touch wood with no issue offer a rolling contract to December, citing no injuries and a number of appearances as an auto extension to end of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, Posset red said: 3 k a week ? “We’re prepared to offer you the same wage as the Robins TV co presenter and ladies goalkeeper coach Rene Gilmartin.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 We would have the same concerns as all clubs regarding his injury record and given he would want at least 15 to 20k a week I can't imagine we would take the risk in this financial climate. Massive shame his career has turned out this way as he was phenomenal as a young player and would be somewhere near 100 cap's for England by now based on his talent only. Only club I can think would give him a deal would be Derby as they need bodies and Rooney would know him but financially they probably aren't in a position to pay him enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni71 Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Massive leap of faith. Undoubted talent but can you imagine when he pings a quad/hamstring/knee injury after 18 mins on his debut. Fan outburst would be crazy re waste of wages etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 Imagine him in a midfield pairing of Wilsher and Liam Walsh though. Imagine seeing that pair every week. You had better imagine it, because you’d never see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 If you asked me 'Who do you think Nigel Pearson is least likely to sign?' Jack Wilshire would be pretty high on the list. Can you see him joining in the high press? Chasing 50 metres to close down the full back after the ball has been cleared from a corner? Thought not. Might as well ask if we're going to sign Mbappe. 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Imagine him in a midfield pairing of Wilsher and Liam Walsh though. Imagine seeing that pair every week. You had better imagine it, because you’d never see it. I've imagined it. We made 2 subs within half an hour after being completely overran by a side that stuck a couple of early challenges in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 While it sounds tempting he would just end up another wage sponge who wouldn't bring a huge amount extra at this time. We desperately need a striker, a right back and a winger, probably in that order of priority. Signing another central midfielder with injury issues is something we've been doing with alarming frequency over the last two seasons. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, Fuber said: I feel if anyone could get something out of him it would be Rennie. Ironically one of Jacks worst injuries came while Rolls was at Arsenal. There's a shock ... Rolls was on the pitch with him when he sustained the injury was he?! You’re obviously trying to blame Rolls for this injury, so how was he involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 I would love to see Wilshere alongside Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Super said: I would love to see Wilshere alongside Williams. They would be, at Southmead hospital within 20 minutes of their first training session together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Fuber said: I feel if anyone could get something out of him it would be Rennie. Ironically one of Jacks worst injuries came while Rolls was at Arsenal. There's a shock. Rolls was a physio at Arsenal and not even head physio he mainly looked after the french lads, there’s sticks to beat Rolls with but this isn’t one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Fuber said: I feel if anyone could get something out of him it would be Rennie. Ironically one of Jacks worst injuries came while Rolls was at Arsenal. There's a shock. Overall would be completely dependant on wages. If we could play him alongside Massengo as cover/rotate with James could be an option. Would allow us to loan out Bakinson - who I'm not sure suites our current style with regards to the workrate Nige demands off ball. Would have to see whether his legs are truly shot for ourselves ultimately, and unlikely to happen. If he proves fitness touch wood with no issue offer a rolling contract to December, citing no injuries and a number of appearances as an auto extension to end of season. Interesting that Patrick Orme (see Fitness podcast thread) admits they got last season’s pre-season wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: Interesting that Patrick Orme (see Fitness podcast thread) admits they got last season’s pre-season wrong. Even inspite of that Fevs. We had injury issues with Rolls in that role before last pre season. Question would be who had final sign off re the decision to not bother with an preseason drill or rota. Wasn't Rolls job title Head of Performance? So depends if decision came down to one of Orme, Rolls, Holden, or Ashton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Lrrr said: Rolls was a physio at Arsenal and not even head physio he mainly looked after the french lads, there’s sticks to beat Rolls with but this isn’t one of them. To be honest I was more pointing towards the fact that Arsenal's physio department was complete bedlam while he was there. At minimum he was part of a bigger issue. https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsenal-injury-list-joel-campbell-only-outfield-player-not-be-injured-2015-after-santi-cazorla-ruled-out-a6754366.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Rolls was on the pitch with him when he sustained the injury was he?! You’re obviously trying to blame Rolls for this injury, so how was he involved? Not perhaps to that extent. However Rolls was implicit in a sham of a fitness and conditioning team while he was there. Who knows what physio dealt with whom? Ultimately my main point is that Rennie, by comparison (i.e. latters time at Leicester), was much better by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fuber said: Even inspite of that Fevs. We had injury issues with Rolls in that role before last pre season. Question would be who had final sign off re the decision to not bother with an preseason drill or rota. Wasn't Rolls job title Head of Performance? So depends if decision came down to one of Orme, Rolls, Holden, or Ashton. Remember the video Rolls did, and Holden interview where it was confirmed that they “designed” pre-season. Holden at the time was still in caretaker mode, but whatever the share of decision making it was them two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Remember the video Rolls did, and Holden interview where it was confirmed that they “designed” pre-season. Holden at the time was still in caretaker mode, but whatever the share of decision making it was them two. Interesting. May have to give that second viewing. If I was in Holden's position, I'd likely defer to my "Head of Performance" to know what they're on about. Hypothesising here. Ultimately we'll never likely know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just read on the BBC football gossip Jack Wiltshire is considering retirement as no one has come in for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, mjd said: Just read on the BBC football gossip Jack Wiltshire is considering retirement as no one has come in for him Retired hurt, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Midlands Robin said: While it sounds tempting he would just end up another wage sponge who wouldn't bring a huge amount extra at this time. We desperately need a striker, a right back and a winger, probably in that order of priority. Signing another central midfielder with injury issues is something we've been doing with alarming frequency over the last two seasons. Pass. Exactly this. There is nothing Jack Wilshere could do to make me want us to sign him for the simple reason that we have a lot of central midfielders and are short in other positions. Even if he could guarantee being 100% fit for the entire season, any move to sign him would show a complete lack of strategy and further unbalance the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Super said: I would love to see Wilshere alongside Williams. I'd like to see Halley's comet again but it's pretty unlikely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Mad how many times people suggest a pay as you play deal when in reality they don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Do we need another injury prone player, particularly in CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 2 hours ago, mjd said: Just read on the BBC football gossip Jack Wiltshire is considering retirement as no one has come in for him His heart being broken means it's caught up with every other part of his body. Ultimate sick note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, SecretSam said: His heart being broken means it's caught up with every other part of his body. Ultimate sick note. A bit harsh, sick note is usually a dergoratory name for someone lazy and always calling in sick or taking the piss I'm sure Jack would have preferred never to be injured. I don't know why football fans choose to be so harsh on players with injury problems. No player wants to be injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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