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2 hours ago, Leveller said:

“5th in line”? In what sense? They’re certainly a club with a great history, but don’t belong in the top half at the moment. As “big clubs” currently go, I’d say they’re behind the Manchester clubs, the Liverpool clubs, Chelsea, Tottenham and probably Leicester, with Villa coming up very close in the rear view mirror.

In the sense of budget and financial clout.

 

As you say though they're way behind those clubs you list in terms of football.

 

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44 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Hang on. Are you saying that unless you or your immediate kin were alive then something didn't happen? 

Is the Titanic still afloat as well?

Unless and until the OS confirms its sinking , then as far as RR is concerned, yes.

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21 hours ago, Bristol Rob said:

2 year campaign to get Wenger out as top 4 was shit, fans fighting amongst themselves in the stands..

Wonder how they feel about that now?

Spot on, so many fans think that changing the manager is the answer to all their prayers when more often than not it is not the case. Arsenal have gone steadily backwards since easing Wenger out the door. Further proof if it is needed is the Gas, their revolving door of managers has led them to the bottom of the fourth tier!

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31 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

And the reason that so few were saved was because of the shocking tannoy!

....and that Gary Johnson was in charge of manning the lifeboats.

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3 hours ago, Marco the red said:

Too see arsenal get relegated would be a thing of beauty - won't happen though 

God, imagine that, on TV every week, with the experts fawning over them..

Not that it would affect us as we're going up this season, so take our place Arsenal....

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4 hours ago, Robbored said:

What I should have posted is that Arsenal are longest serving club in the top division of English football.

Nah, what you should have said was that it was The Woolwich Arsenal that got relegated in 1912/13, following voluntary liquidation in 1910 and a takeover by Henry Norris. Then, in the summer of 1913 they upped sticks and moved their franchise away from Woolwich and into the more affluent area of Highbury, which was an area at that time in the catchment area for Tottenham Hotspur. This move was almost solely motivated by money and finances, and they simultaneously dropped the "Woolwich" from their name and became simply "Arsenal".

In 1919, after WW1 ended, Arsenal, having finished 6th (later revised to 5th) in the 1914/15 season then managed to negotiate/bribe/cajol their way back into the First Division in the election held to expand that division out to 22 teams. This election was at the expense of Spurs, who had finished bottom of the First Division in 1914/15, but expected that tradition would endure and they would be elected to remain as one of the 2 new teams. Norris saw to it that Arsenal instead replaced them. As an aside, Chelsea were also due to be relegated, having finished 19th in 1914/15, but they were reprieved as they had been the victim of match fixing by Man Utd and Liverpool.

Arsenal are therefore not only the longest enduring too flight team, but they are also the only team to have been promoted not by sporting merit, but by dubious electoral methods.

What a lovely, famous, truly noble history.

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8 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

I have a mate who grew up in Somerset. His parents are Scottish and Cornish, but he used to claim he was a "lifelong Gooner".

Obviously, he's died then, as in the last two seasons he seems to have shifted his support to Leicester City. :laughcont:

Sums up the plastics.

I used to work with a girl who chose a different top flight club to “support” each season! And one World Cup year she actually asked me who I was going to support in the World Cup - you cannot choreograph comedy like that ... ??

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46 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Nah, what you should have said was that it was The Woolwich Arsenal that got relegated in 1912/13, following voluntary liquidation in 1910 and a takeover by Henry Norris. Then, in the summer of 1913 they upped sticks and moved their franchise away from Woolwich and into the more affluent area of Highbury, which was an area at that time in the catchment area for Tottenham Hotspur. This move was almost solely motivated by money and finances, and they simultaneously dropped the "Woolwich" from their name and became simply "Arsenal".

In 1919, after WW1 ended, Arsenal, having finished 6th (later revised to 5th) in the 1914/15 season then managed to negotiate/bribe/cajol their way back into the First Division in the election held to expand that division out to 22 teams. This election was at the expense of Spurs, who had finished bottom of the First Division in 1914/15, but expected that tradition would endure and they would be elected to remain as one of the 2 new teams. Norris saw to it that Arsenal instead replaced them. As an aside, Chelsea were also due to be relegated, having finished 19th in 1914/15, but they were reprieved as they had been the victim of match fixing by Man Utd and Liverpool.

Arsenal are therefore not only the longest enduring too flight team, but they are also the only team to have been promoted not by sporting merit, but by dubious electoral methods.

What a lovely, famous, truly noble history.

Maybe you should look up Bristol City’s ‘truly noble’ history, as of that of many other ‘elected’ top flight clubs at that time, before passing assumption.

Many clubs would give their right arm to have the tradition and success of Arsenal. Jealousy is never a good look ? 

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