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13 hours ago, lenred said:

Lots of boos. More so for Pack from what I heard but both got plenty. 

Correct fact but soooo wrong IMHO on both counts. Neither player has ever, afaik, had anything but good things to say about our club so the booing was really crass IMHO.

A 'Cardiff get battered everywhere they go' supporting mate of mine said Marlon went over and applauded the City support, is that true? If he did, class from MP.

No reason to boo either player.

I was at a family wedding yesterday and was a tad wobbly by midnight so have been catching up today! :drunk2:'Cheer up Holloway etc etc' (loads of gas at the wedding). ;)

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7 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Thanks Dave . Out of interest. The pass combination map you did earlier. Would that be the same or similar to our average player positions ?
I wonder because we looked very compact  

Yes, the pass networks are average positions that each player made their passes from.  They have their uses, e.g. player combinations, but also their limitations.

Take Matty James and Andi Weimann.

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An average doesn’t do them justice when you look the different positions they made their passes from, nor do they give pass type, which ones were successful etc etc.

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Above is all Weimann’s actions.

So, all carry a caveat, and why they shouldn’t be the be-all and end-all.

 

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7 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Here you go SSN….exactly right.

Looks to me that if Flint followed to the point where you paused the clip, but then held the position instead of going the extra 5 yards or so he'd have been in a decent position to deal with the pass.

He's tried to be too tight to Weimann, and so when Weimann turns he's already past and has the pace advantage as well.

Great turn by Andi and as you say his first run completely baits Aden.

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Flint was often MotM in League 1. Cotts and then Lj both got the very best out of a decent defender and both used him well up front when needed. 

Noone will forget the night he partied with us at  Bradford, or his goals in the 8-2 last game v Walsall but we have bought and sold really well since then and I'd have Webster, Kalas, Atkinson any day. 

If we ever had a testimonial match and he was playing, he'd receive applause from me but we have moved on in the Championship to better expectations. 

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8 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Your ‘accrued transfer values’ point is ridiculous - Baker was with Villa from the age of 13 - he worked his way through their academy to play over 100 premier league games for Villa whilst earning 16 England caps at various age brackets along the way ... top players who develop in this way are obviously not going to be transferred around for exorbitant fees, yet you chose Flint’s transfer fees as a stick with which to beat Baker - it’s not comparing like with like ... 

100 premier appearances for villa and some england age caps means you are obviously not going to be transferred around for exorbitant fees? There are countless players who transfer around in those circumstances! Grealish was the most recent.

and i dont have a problem with baker, but to compare him and flint in their time here is rediculous, one will be remembered as a leader, a goal scoring warrior who put his head on the line and drove us on to promotion and took us up the championship table before being sold for 6 million,,, the other,, well, he gets injured a lot, does some rash challenges, and invariably gets dropped whenever we sign a better centre back.

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59 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

100 premier appearances for villa and some england age caps means you are obviously not going to be transferred around for exorbitant fees? There are countless players who transfer around in those circumstances! Grealish was the most recent.

and i dont have a problem with baker, but to compare him and flint in their time here is rediculous, one will be remembered as a leader, a goal scoring warrior who put his head on the line and drove us on to promotion and took us up the championship table before being sold for 6 million,,, the other,, well, he gets injured a lot, does some rash challenges, and invariably gets dropped whenever we sign a better centre back.

My post wasn’t comparing Flint and Baker in terms of their contributions at our club - it was making the point that your ‘accrued transfer values’ comparison is ridiculous because Baker spent 13 years at Villa before his one transfer - so, as I said, you weren’t comparing like for like ...

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1 hour ago, Simon bristol said:

100 premier appearances for villa and some england age caps means you are obviously not going to be transferred around for exorbitant fees? There are countless players who transfer around in those circumstances! Grealish was the most recent.

and i dont have a problem with baker, but to compare him and flint in their time here is rediculous, one will be remembered as a leader, a goal scoring warrior who put his head on the line and drove us on to promotion and took us up the championship table before being sold for 6 million,,, the other,, well, he gets injured a lot, does some rash challenges, and invariably gets dropped whenever we sign a better centre back.

Baker always has been far superior to Flint.

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40 minutes ago, Marco the red said:

Baker always has been far superior to Flint.

Agree Baker always had more to his game and more ability. But for me Flint performed better for us when they were both at the club. 

Very good to see Baker much more up for it this season. Not yet walked off the pitch early. Willing to bring the ball out of defence against Boro, something we have never seen him interested in doing before. And even happy to come in at left back.

Pearson seems to have got the best out of him so far.

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7 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Agree Baker always had more to his game and more ability. But for me Flint performed better for us when they were both at the club. 

Very good to see Baker much more up for it this season. Not yet walked off the pitch early. Willing to bring the ball out of defence against Boro, something we have never seen him interested in doing before. And even happy to come in at left back.

Pearson seems to have got the best out of him so far.

Maybe that's because Flint spent most of it in a top league 1 side compared to Baker in an average champ one. 

 

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17 hours ago, Wiltsred14 said:

Contentious comment, I know. 

He’s just lost a derby, against his old club… I can understand why he might have been a bit salty. Would fans on here have been too bothered if he did the same to a Swindon fan back in our promotion season? 

Sometimes I do feel for players, who are often, and wrongly, seen to be the panacea for people’s problems. 

I agree, not the best time to approach an ex player. Anyway it seems it's all sorted now. Apparently the Mother's whinging alerted him on social media and he has promised a shirt ( hopefully a Cardiff City one 😄). 

 

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3 hours ago, Lew-T said:

I think you’re being extremely harsh.

He had a horrible spell under o driscoll in our first L1 season, I remember he made 4 mistakes in a row that cost goals including injury time against Port Vale when we didn't win st start of season. Same thing happened in Champ e.g Anya when dodgy back header in draw.

Generally good for us but can't ignore that he had some poor spells here.

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On 29/08/2021 at 10:32, Red-Robbo said:

 

I never can understand booing former players - unless they left us in a contentious way or have dissed us retrospectively.   Neither of those did.

I never can understand clapping former players.

After the game fine but before or during the game not a chance. You want them to be uncomfortable and off there game against us.

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Seems as though a local BBC journalist must be reading this site, and just for a laugh to brighten a dull day posted on the Bristol news under latest updates  the following headline

Flint completes Bristol City move

I nearly fell off my chair on clicking on the story however it is dated 11 June 2013. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/bristol

So not exactly latest updates , how soon will they inform us Mafeking has been relieved 

 

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2 hours ago, Marco the red said:

He had a horrible spell under o driscoll in our first L1 season, I remember he made 4 mistakes in a row that cost goals including injury time against Port Vale when we didn't win st start of season. Same thing happened in Champ e.g Anya when dodgy back header in draw.

Generally good for us but can't ignore that he had some poor spells here.

As has pretty much every player that’s ever played for us

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4 hours ago, RedM said:

I agree, not the best time to approach an ex player. Anyway it seems it's all sorted now. Apparently the Mother's whinging alerted him on social media and he has promised a shirt ( hopefully a Cardiff City one 😄). 

 

I just hope there’s enough room to squeeze it into the wardrobe, amongst the other BCFC memorabilia that’s been acquired following relentless social media campaigns. Poor lad

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19 minutes ago, Wiltsred14 said:

I just hope there’s enough room to squeeze it into the wardrobe, amongst the other BCFC memorabilia that’s been acquired following relentless social media campaigns. Poor lad

I would think Flint and many of our other current players were pretty hacked off with the same parent bragging things all the time and decided to give some attention to other fans, and rightly so. 

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53 minutes ago, BS10 RED said:

I never can understand clapping former players.

After the game fine but before or during the game not a chance. You want them to be uncomfortable and off there game against us.

Booing an ex player doesn’t make them uncomfortable. Just as cheering a player doesn’t make them comfortable. 

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