GrahamC Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Anyone else notice something different about the signing of the Carlisle lad yesterday? The conspicuous absence of our new CEO, who clearly doesn’t see the need to be the centre of attention & hog the limelight. No speech from Richard about “how grateful we should be to the Lansdown family”, just a comment from the manager about the signing & that’s it. Of course the proof is in the pudding but on first impressions I like our new structure (manager in control, CEO getting on with his job without any fuss) so much more. Ipswich made their 18th signing of the window this morning, even in a division with Burton, Cheltenham & Morecambe (who they should hammer) it isn’t going great, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I think his role is a bit different from Ashton's. Ashton's seemed to be far more involved with the playing side, whereas Gould seems more typical of a CEO - a bit more like Sextone when he was here. This blurring of responsibilities seems to have caused us massive problems that'll take years to sort out - will probably be the same at Ipswich. I can't imagine Pearson, regardless what he said last season in public, wanting to work with someone in an Ashton type role ideally. The responsibilities and deliverables seem to overlap far too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think his role is a bit different from Ashton's. Ashton's seemed to be far more involved with the playing side, whereas Gould seems more typical of a CEO - a bit more like Sextone when he was here. This blurring of responsibilities seems to have caused us massive problems that'll take years to sort out - will probably be the same at Ipswich. I can't imagine Pearson, regardless what he said last season in public, wanting to work with someone in an Ashton type role ideally. The responsibilities and deliverables seem to overlap far too much. Ashton appointed himself head of recruitment despite being totally unqualified. He seems to have assumed the same role at Ipswich. Cook had better watch his back because if things go pear shaped it won't be Ashton taking the blame. I assume once the window is closed Ashton will do one of his "aren't I wonderful" in house interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, chinapig said: Ashton appointed himself head of recruitment despite being totally unqualified. He seems to have assumed the same role at Ipswich. Cook had better watch his back because if things go pear shaped it won't be Ashton taking the blame. I assume once the window is closed Ashton will do one of his "aren't I wonderful" in house interviews. Not if they haven't won yet he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Ashton seemed to basically take a Director of Football role which was a bit worrying! Still that's in the past and things are starting to look up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Ashton and his cronies are a cancer in football, IMO, and we are well rid. Gould isn't after the limelight and I'm happy with him ticking along in the background, acting on NP's requests, getting deals across the line for realistic fees in positions that are priorities. It really does make the mind boggle at the scattergun, clubs-in-the-bag approach under Ashton. 18 new players at Ipswich in a post-COVID era, FFS? Reckless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I suspect Gould is more of a traditional CEO, leading behind the scenes and only coming out when he's needed. The public face of City will be the Manager, Chairman and owner. Don't think publicity is his style, although he does come across very well when interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Marco the red said: He did a lot of public interviews when at Surrey so I don't think he is against the limelight. Unlike Ashton he doesn't actively seek it. No disrespect to City (or Surrey), but at Surrey he was a bigger fish in a smaller pond, in charge of a major Test ground, for example. But no doubt he stuck to mostly non-playing matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 can’t even imagine the consequences if Ipswich don’t go up FFP wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Thankfully that c##t is now gone. Ashton did untold damage to this club. Will take years to repair. But feeling a low more positive above the new set up down Ashton Gate. Onwards and upwards hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think his role is a bit different from Ashton's. Ashton's seemed to be far more involved with the playing side, whereas Gould seems more typical of a CEO - a bit more like Sextone when he was here. This blurring of responsibilities seems to have caused us massive problems that'll take years to sort out - will probably be the same at Ipswich. I can't imagine Pearson, regardless what he said last season in public, wanting to work with someone in an Ashton type role ideally. The responsibilities and deliverables seem to overlap far too much. I think what you meant to say is that Ashton was over involved in the playing side. Ashton seems to crave the limelight and wanting the type of recognition and adulation that players get from fans - witness his recent touchline run, high-fiving the Ipswich fans. He was all too quick to talk to the media when there was reflected glory available, but conspicuous by his absence when things weren’t going so well. I wonder how high profile is he at the moment over in Suffolk? Now we seem to have people in place who not only know their jobs and where their responsibilities begin and end, but are content to leave the limelight to the players. Even the manager is understated in his interviews and lets the players take fans’ applause at the end of a game. Will we ever see “Pearson say bounce around the ground”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 39 minutes ago, tin said: Ashton and his cronies are a cancer in football, IMO, and we are well rid. Gould isn't after the limelight and I'm happy with him ticking along in the background, acting on NP's requests, getting deals across the line for realistic fees in positions that are priorities. It really does make the mind boggle at the scattergun, clubs-in-the-bag approach under Ashton. 18 new players at Ipswich in a post-COVID era, FFS? Reckless. Yep, best “transfer” of the window. 22 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: can’t even imagine the consequences if Ipswich don’t go up FFP wise Think they’ve hamstrung themselves even if they do go up….then they’ll have to play under Championship FFP, which is very different to Lg1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, downendcity said: I think what you meant to say is that Ashton was over involved in the playing side. Ashton seems to crave the limelight and wanting the type of recognition and adulation that players get from fans - witness his recent touchline run, high-fiving the Ipswich fans. He was all too quick to talk to the media when there was reflected glory available, but conspicuous by his absence when things weren’t going so well. I wonder how high profile is he at the moment over in Suffolk? Now we seem to have people in place who not only know their jobs and where their responsibilities begin and end, but are content to leave the limelight to the players. Even the manager is understated in his interviews and lets the players take fans’ applause at the end of a game. Will we ever see “Pearson say bounce around the ground”? The difference between class and crass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: The difference between class and crass! One tells everyone how good he is ( or thinks he is). The other shows everyone how good he is, without having to say a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Island Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, downendcity said: One tells everyone how good he is ( or thinks he is). The other shows everyone how good he is, without having to say a word. Unfortunately shameless self promotion and bluster goes a long way these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 I’m sorry but this is hilarious to me. I’m all for discussing the new CEO’s ways of working but bloody hell, you would be forgiven for assuming his predecessor (let’s call him ‘Voldemort’) had slept with all of our wives, the way people keep banging on about him. We are in a new season, with a new CEO, a somewhat new squad and a relatively new manager. We have had a couple of great wins recently and nobody knows the heights we could reach this year. Surely it’s best for us to forget about Voldemort, enjoy the (extremely likeable) personnel we have at the club at present, and look to the future rather than the past? It’s clear Ipswich have gotten off to a poor start this year, but who cares - we are in the top half of the division above them and have more important fish to fry than discussing their corporate hierarchy. Or, alternatively, I suppose pettiness is a ubiquitous facet of football fandom. So do what you want really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 41 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: can’t even imagine the consequences if Ipswich don’t go up FFP wise Well they have conceded more than anyone else in the league after 5 games so it's a high possibility. With a defensive record like that they will be lucky to stay in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, Distortia said: I’m sorry but this is hilarious to me. I’m all for discussing the new CEO’s ways of working but bloody hell, you would be forgiven for assuming his predecessor (let’s call him ‘Voldemort’) had slept with all of our wives, the way people keep banging on about him. We are in a new season, with a new CEO, a somewhat new squad and a relatively new manager. We have had a couple of great wins recently and nobody knows the heights we could reach this year. Surely it’s best for us to forget about Voldemort, enjoy the (extremely likeable) personnel we have at the club at present, and look to the future rather than the past? It’s clear Ipswich have gotten off to a poor start this year, but who cares - we are in the top half of the division above them and have more important fish to fry than discussing their corporate hierarchy. Or, alternatively, I suppose pettiness is a ubiquitous facet of football fandom. So do what you want really It's only natural to try and draw comparisons. I don't think we will get much debate out of it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, Wolf Island said: Unfortunately shameless self promotion and bluster goes a long way these days. It does. Precisely 215 miles - the distance from BS3 to Ipswich! 18 minutes ago, Distortia said: I’m sorry but this is hilarious to me. I’m all for discussing the new CEO’s ways of working but bloody hell, you would be forgiven for assuming his predecessor (let’s call him ‘Voldemort’) had slept with all of our wives, the way people keep banging on about him. I thought that was Kasey Palmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Yep, best “transfer” of the window. Think they’ve hamstrung themselves even if they do go up….then they’ll have to play under Championship FFP, which is very different to Lg1/2. I’d say of the last 5 years. The relief he and his team have gone and that we now have grown ups in charge is just immense (as I know I’ve said a million times). There was a very small part of me that was thinking I was overly critical and that it can’t have just been him and ‘his team’ that had this completely blasé, chuck enough shit at the wall approach but what they are doing at Ipswich seems to vindicate that original view. And as I’ve said before Watford fans (including a close colleague) absolutely despised him also. We’re lucky to have got rid and I say lucky as it’s all down to his ego that he’s gone, not anything to do with the owners. I reckon he would’ve kept pulling the wool over them for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 More than happy to just see the fruits of his labour with the odd update type interview once or twice a season as required. Really refreshing last few months in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, lenred said: I’d say of the last 5 years. The relief he and his team have gone and that we now have grown ups in charge is just immense (as I know I’ve said a million times). There was a very small part of me that was thinking I was overly critical and that it can’t have just been him and ‘his team’ that had this completely blasé, chuck enough shit at the wall approach but what they are doing at Ipswich seems to vindicate that original view. And as I’ve said before Watford fans (including a close colleague) absolutely despised him also. We’re lucky to have got rid and I say lucky as it’s all down to his ego that he’s gone, not anything to do with the owners. I reckon he would’ve kept pulling the wool over them for years to come. My concerns started when he in effect self-promoted himself from COO to CEO, sacked the HoR and bizarrely got more involved in recruitment. Big klaxon went off in my head…..not helped by someone telling me about his previous work here as consultant. He’s gone, I’m relieved. We now have people in place who care about our club. Ashton is a wannabe footballer desperate to feel like he’s a pro player, when in fact he wasn’t good enough (that’s no disgrace)….and is trying to suck money out of football in various business ventures. He’s no better than a dodgy agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Thank goodness for the Richard Gould's and Nigel Pearson's of this world. Their ego's and experience are directed at helping others to achieve! And by doing so, they also achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Thank goodness for the Richard Gould's and Nigel Pearson's of this world. Their ego's and experience are directed at helping others to achieve! And by doing so, they also achieve. Like all the best leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonks55 Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: The difference between class and crass! One 'L of a' (helluva) difference! Seriously, whilst criticism of Ashton is justified, neither it does not reflect very well on the one person that Ashton reported to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, cidered abroad said: Thank goodness for the Richard Gould's and Nigel Pearson's of this world. Their ego's and experience are directed at helping others to achieve! And by doing so, they also achieve. Well said! Forget about the past, can't see why anyone is giving the idiot airtime on here - we all know the damage blah blah blah. Future is looking promising & with more integrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 Who’s Richard Gould? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 hours ago, chinapig said: Ashton appointed himself head of recruitment despite being totally unqualified. I don't know how you can say someone who rose to the giddy heights of goalie for West Brom reserves during their most unsuccessful era in history is totally unqualified! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Badger Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 The obsession about Ashton on here is embarrassing… Move on. Same posters who were saying what great signings we made when he was making them. Look toward ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted August 31, 2021 Report Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Distortia said: I’m sorry but this is hilarious to me. I’m all for discussing the new CEO’s ways of working but bloody hell, you would be forgiven for assuming his predecessor (let’s call him ‘Voldemort’) had slept with all of our wives, the way people keep banging on about him. We are in a new season, with a new CEO, a somewhat new squad and a relatively new manager. We have had a couple of great wins recently and nobody knows the heights we could reach this year. Surely it’s best for us to forget about Voldemort, enjoy the (extremely likeable) personnel we have at the club at present, and look to the future rather than the past? It’s clear Ipswich have gotten off to a poor start this year, but who cares - we are in the top half of the division above them and have more important fish to fry than discussing their corporate hierarchy. Or, alternatively, I suppose pettiness is a ubiquitous facet of football fandom. So do what you want really Well duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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