054123 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 I know this has been covered in depth in other threads but @Davefevs @Mr Popodopolous in short is there any scope for transfers next summer? I know you’ve both indicated that this summer there was room for a gamble, but what about next year? Are we just hamstrung now? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Sell to buy…..and don’t expect to be able to use all of the funds either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Depends how much we sell Scott (or Massengo) for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Sell to buy…..and don’t expect to be able to use all of the funds either! We’re in a pretty difficult place then? How do we improve the overall squad if it’s best assets have to go? I hope the scouting has improved and we can highlight some diamonds in the rough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, 054123 said: We’re in a pretty difficult place then? How do we improve the overall squad if it’s best assets have to go? I hope the scouting has improved and we can highlight some diamonds in the rough! Yep, that’s it in a nutshell. Might even be some surprise sales in the jan window? A made up scenario - Pring continues his form, O’Dowda can’t get in the side, contract expiring in the summer, although club have option. Club don’t want to excuse on current wages (Andi Weimann scenario), so ask him to accept lower wage for new deal. No deal done….offer him to clubs. That sounds drastic, but it seems fairly clear that £15-20k p.w contracts are no longer the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, that’s it in a nutshell. Might even be some surprise sales in the jan window? A made up scenario - Pring continues his form, O’Dowda can’t get in the side, contract expiring in the summer, although club have option. Club don’t want to excuse on current wages (Andi Weimann scenario), so ask him to accept lower wage for new deal. No deal done….offer him to clubs. That sounds drastic, but it seems fairly clear that £15-20k p.w contracts are no longer the norm. I think COD needs to move on. Always been one of those players that has never really done much. Scored a worldie against Norwich( i think) but then cannot hit a 5 yard pass. If he is on anywhere near 15-20 K per week its a bye from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: I think COD needs to move on. Always been one of those players that has never really done much. Scored a worldie against Norwich( i think) but then cannot hit a 5 yard pass. If he is on anywhere near 15-20 K per week its a bye from me I’ve obviously no idea what he’s on, but it’s got to be around the £15k p.w. mark. Taking Callum out of the equation because it was just a hypothetical scenario….but boy we pay some wages to some average players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’ve obviously no idea what he’s on, but it’s got to be around the £15k p.w. mark. Taking Callum out of the equation because it was just a hypothetical scenario….but boy we pay some wages to some average players! If he is on 15 grand a week the world has gone mad. Talented player on his day, but those days are as frequent as Halleys comet. Irrespective of his wage, id move him on particularly if we get a few quid. 1.5 M / 2M for a 26 year old international? Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Says this on salaryreport website Callum O'Dowda earns £8,400 per week, £436,800 per year playing for Bristol City as a AM RL. Callum O'Dowda's net worth is £1,326,520.Callum O'Dowda is 24 years old and was born in Republic of Ireland. His current contract expires June 30, 2022. Earns ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: 8400 quid a week according to that website Yes glad he gets enough to pay his BUPA fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Says this on salaryreport website Callum O'Dowda earns £8,400 per week, £436,800 per year playing for Bristol City as a AM RL. Callum O'Dowda's net worth is £1,326,520.Callum O'Dowda is 24 years old and was born in Republic of Ireland. His current contract expires June 30, 2022. I would be gobsmacked if it was as low as this. Leaving aside the subjective debate about what he should get paid, the likes of Walsh & Moore were said to be on higher than this & seeing as unlike those 2 O’Dowda has made over 150 appearances for us & is a current international I’d expect it to be much nearer to £14k a week than £8k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, JonDolman said: Says this on salaryreport website Callum O'Dowda earns £8,400 per week, £436,800 per year playing for Bristol City as a AM RL. Callum O'Dowda's net worth is £1,326,520.Callum O'Dowda is 24 years old and was born in Republic of Ireland. His current contract expires June 30, 2022. Given the fact it says he was born in the ROI when he was actually born in Oxford I think I`ll take that with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Regardless of what he earns he needs to be moved on. Should never have been offered his last contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Given the fact it says he was born in the ROI when he was actually born in Oxford I think I`ll take that with a pinch of salt. 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Ha yeah not sure how they get their info. I would have thought he'd be on a little more than that. What, a level teaspoon? No way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni71 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 @Davefevsthe phrase ‘sustainable club’ has been used many a time by SL. Ashton certainly dashed any hopes of that. So if the rumours are true and we’ve reduced the wage bill by 20%>30%, what further reductions are required? A further 30%? Player wages of £15m pa? Shows the other side of what Pearson has to achieve as well as results on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 From what I can tell for the next 2 seasons we're good enough to sit in the bottom half of the table but above relegation, we need to sell our best players though and somehow we need to not get relegated. We're basically on life support, the one factor in our favour is that there are other clubs that are completely dead. If they all go down this season then next season might be a bit rougher so we might want them to struggle on a bit with others going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Beni71 said: @Davefevsthe phrase ‘sustainable club’ has been used many a time by SL. Ashton certainly dashed any hopes of that. So if the rumours are true and we’ve reduced the wage bill by 20%>30%, what further reductions are required? A further 30%? Player wages of £15m pa? Shows the other side of what Pearson has to achieve as well as results on the pitch. Certainly another wage cut, not sure of numbers though. Some will be achieved by trying to lower wages of those players on contracts who might be up for expiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Certainly another wage cut, not sure of numbers though. Some will be achieved by trying to lower wages of those players on contracts who might be up for expiry. Wonder how much, Simpson, King and James are on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Rob k said: Wonder how much, Simpson, King and James are on? My gut feel is Simpson and King, not very much - guessing £5-6k(ish), James a lot more - £15k(ish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 Martin, COD, Simpson, King, Bakinson are OOC at the end of this season. Be interesting to see who is kept on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Bard said: Martin, COD, Simpson, King, Bakinson are OOC at the end of this season. Be interesting to see who is kept on. I'd possibly keep King out of that lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 17, 2021 Report Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 15:37, TonyTonyTony said: I think COD needs to move on. Always been one of those players that has never really done much. Scored a worldie against Norwich( i think) but then cannot hit a 5 yard pass. If he is on anywhere near 15-20 K per week its a bye from me Yep, that solo goal away at Norwich was simply sublime - but then just mediocre stuff the majority of the time since ... seems one of those that we could probably do without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelksRed Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 14:27, 054123 said: We’re in a pretty difficult place then? How do we improve the overall squad if it’s best assets have to go? Simply put - better scouting. Brentford managed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 12:18, James54De said: Depends how much we sell Scott (or Massengo) for. Sell Bentley....... Most & easiest to replace.... Ashton's gone so those funds can be spent wisely... Jobs a good 'un.. You know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, MelksRed said: Simply put - better scouting. Brentford managed it. Apparently actually having players scouted at all ... That will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Son of Fred said: Sell Bentley....... Most & easiest to replace.... Ashton's gone so those funds can be spent wisely... Jobs a good 'un.. You know it makes sense. This time next year Uncle Steve will be a Millionaire ( no longer a billionaire ! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Son of Fred said: Sell Bentley....... Most & easiest to replace.... Ashton's gone so those funds can be spent wisely... Jobs a good 'un.. You know it makes sense. How much do you reckon we get for Bentley in today’s market? I think our best money making players are probably the youngsters, Scott and Semenyo - all profit and possibly Massengo (net). But you’re spot on re scouting / recruitment. The other area, is coach to improve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted September 18, 2021 Report Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 16/09/2021 at 15:26, Davefevs said: Yep, that’s it in a nutshell. Might even be some surprise sales in the jan window? A made up scenario - Pring continues his form, O’Dowda can’t get in the side, contract expiring in the summer, although club have option. Club don’t want to excuse on current wages (Andi Weimann scenario), so ask him to accept lower wage for new deal. No deal done….offer him to clubs. That sounds drastic, but it seems fairly clear that £15-20k p.w contracts are no longer the norm. Exactly, and we still have several who are on those old contracts. Cod, wells, palmer and Dasilva and quite a few others are all still on these pre covid contracts and they need to be gotten off the books, once that happens and their replacements are all on hopefully significantly less, then thats how we will rebuild the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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