bs3 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Bears now definitely biggest sporting club in the City. We have to accept we are now playing second fiddle to the Rugby in the Bristol sport set up and in the mind and pocket of Steve Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 They are playing in the top league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilC Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Not this again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Success on the field brings bigger crowds and expectation. The Bears are now an established Premiership team with realistic ambitions of winning it. People want to be a part of that and rugby has always been a popular sport in the West Country. I'm not sure that the football plays second fiddle, its just easier to be successful in Rugby whilst investing less money. Plus the salary caps etc. Much more investment has and continues to be spent on the football over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stortz Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, bs3 said: Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Bears now definitely biggest sporting club in the City. We have to accept we are now playing second fiddle to the Rugby in the Bristol sport set up and in the mind and pocket of Steve Lansdown. Yes, against Swansea, 2 games ago. The lack of perspective on here after a bloody draw is incredible. edit- how much do you think Lansdown spends on rugby compared to football ffs?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Stortz said: Yes, against Swansea, 2 games ago. The lack of perspective on here after a bloody draw is incredible. Yep and the Bears don't go 15 or whatever without winning at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 To me, rugby is a game for public school boys and Welsh people. It simply doesn't matter. Therefore I couldn't care less what happens to the Bristol Bears. Only BCFC count. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just unfortunate for them that their utterly dumb sport is completely irrelevant really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Rugby has a smaller "playing field" so to speak. 13 teams (including the bears) in the Gallagher Premiership. 11 in the championship. So more people would gravitate to clubs like the bears. Bristol city have to compete with 71 other League clubs including another in Bristol so those fans are naturally going to be more spread out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, bs3 said: Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Bears now definitely biggest sporting club in the City. We have to accept we are now playing second fiddle to the Rugby in the Bristol sport set up and in the mind and pocket of Steve Lansdown. Ridiculous thread to be honest. The rugby club can easily become the biggest club in Europe . The sports are incomparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, bs3 said: Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Bears now definitely biggest sporting club in the City. We have to accept we are now playing second fiddle to the Rugby in the Bristol sport set up and in the mind and pocket of Steve Lansdown. There’s no need to get Grizzly over it… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Good for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 The rugby club are less of a drain financially than City are, and they are probably much easier to get success with. According to this the Bears lost £4.1M in 2020 (not sure how much difference that covid made), can't be bothered to check Bristol City numbers but from memory they usually costs Lansdown around 10-15 million a season to fund. Apparently the rugby club got around £11 million in revenue in the last financial year (could probably go up a fair bit if they had last season with fans in the stadium) this is a lot less than Bristol City who I believe get closer to £20 million. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03601031/filing-history Its interesting to compare the 2 clubs but the bottom line is that if Bristol City ever got into the premier league then that would dwarf anything the rugby club could ever do from a financial pov. But if you want to be known as a successful sports club owner then I understand why focusing on the rugby side looks more attractive, both financially (to minimise losses) and to create a 'legacy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 How many of a 20,000+ rugby crowd would be adults compared to a 20,000+ football crowd? Do kids even watch rugby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: How many of a 20,000+ rugby crowd would be adults compared to a 20,000+ football crowd? Do kids even watch rugby? Yes , It’s full of kids. Rugby ST £60 for U12 plus a free shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, bs3 said: Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Bears now definitely biggest sporting club in the City. We have to accept we are now playing second fiddle to the Rugby in the Bristol sport set up and in the mind and pocket of Steve Lansdown. Laughable! Top team, in a top league which they finished top of! What it shows there is a big appetite for top sport and winning teams in Bristol. As accounts show, BS spends a fraction on Rugby than soccer. Also what better way to get motivated than your mates on the Rugby side singing blackbird after winning again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 As a ST holder and lifelong supporter of both, I don't see it as a contest. The real sports people of Bristol and the two clubs want them both in the top leagues winning trophies and in European competition. Ask current Bears player, Joe Joyce and ex Bath and England Gareth Chilcott if they would be delighted for both to be up top fighting for glory and you'd be amazed at their passion for both teams and sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, bs3 said: Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Bears now definCity itely biggest sporting club in the City. We have to accept we are now playing second fiddle to the Rugby in the Bristol sport set up and in the mind and pocket of Steve Lansdown. We'll never know if Steve's mind has ever been more on the rugby than the football but anyone with the slightest knowledge of both sports will tell you that City could be in L2 and we'd still be more of a drain on his wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Beer sales at the rugby must be double that of a football match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, bs3 said: Bears expecting a crowd of over 20,000 on Friday, have we had over 20,000 this season? Yes we have. We’ve also sold more STs than them. Not that it matters because it isn't a competition, we are two clubs in completely different sports. If the Rugby club is doing well financially for our owner then I hope they completely fill the Gate for every game this season. When they first came to AG, we were told by thick Gasheads that no one would watch them in South Bristol and they would be a financial burden for SL....another fantastic prediction from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 The finances behind rugby and football are hugely different so you cant compare. If City had a team close to winning the PL year in year out, and were in the champions league we would have 27K each game, and could probably even more if we were right at the top as the rugby club is. I like going to the rugby - its a rare event for me as its expensive compared to city but its a nice atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bs3 Posted September 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Interesting comments about Bears playing in the top league, less financial drain etc but the main thrust of my point is that Bears are bigger than City as it stands today and I have yet to read a reason post to counter that specific point . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 I think that's about the max potential pull for bears over the season...more for Bath and "bigger' clubs, less for the Newcastle's etc..It won't go up any more. Should city get into the prem (and I'm in two minds whether I want that, given the potential attendee change) they would probably be able to sell circa 30k tickets per game, if we had that capacity, potentially more... And that's with two clubs in the city (Please note the omission of the word football, given it only applies to one club) not just one, although some might argue Bath is a suburb of Briz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, bs3 said: Interesting comments about Bears playing in the top league, less financial drain etc but the main thrust of my point is that Bears are bigger than City as it stands today and I have yet to read a reason post to counter that specific point . Ok. So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Not a rugby fan, (rubbish game, made to play it at school, hated it) but did anyone else look at this & think they had discovered bears that were bigger than an entire city? Just me then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollydog Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, bs3 said: Interesting comments about Bears playing in the top league, less financial drain etc but the main thrust of my point is that Bears are bigger than City as it stands today and I have yet to read a reason post to counter that specific point . I’m glad you have clarified that. It read to me that your main point was to have a go at Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Not a rugby fan, (rubbish game, made to play it at school, hated it) but did anyone else look at this & think they had discovered bears that were bigger than an entire city? Just me then.. Anyone named Arthur, Bernard or Ursula have names that mean "bear". Probably enough of them to fill a small city, like Bath. I knew a guy called Orson once. His name also means "bear". He was Orson from Wells. Didn't do sherry adverts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: Anyone named Arthur, Bernard or Ursula have names that mean "bear". Probably enough of them to fill a small city, like Bath. I knew a guy called Orson once. His name also means "bear". He was Orson from Wells. Didn't do sherry adverts though. Quality facts. Knew that about Ursula but not the other two.. Orson Welles mind, what a genius, watched A Touch of Evil again recently, he was a bloody visionary. Doubt he’d get much of a tune out of the squad Nige has, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 There in the top flight at the peak of the game. Its not a competition though. We all have season tickets to both. Im proud if the fact that the city has a decent football and rugby team. Playing in the Championship is a brilliant standard and whilst I always want success for City, there’s no shame in the jebel we are current At. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Red_Alligator said: To me, rugby is a game for public school boys and Welsh people. It simply doesn't matter. Therefore I couldn't care less what happens to the Bristol Bears. Only BCFC count. Simple. Amen brother. It’s shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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