MattWSM Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 We are missing him or someone like Fam who can put defences under pressure with strength/ physicality 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Loco Rojo Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Yeah, agreed. What he offered and his effort on the pitch at the end of last season has been a huge loss to the team. 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, MattWSM said: We are missing him or someone like Fam who can put defences under pressure with strength/ physicality A fully fit Martin can do that but he wasn’t at the races last night for whatever reason. At Senior Reds a while ago Flint was asked who his hardest opponent was - without any hesitation he said “Chris Martin” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 In fairness he is a massive upgrade on Martin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 The fact we might be missing Famara is an indictment of Martins poor performances rather Famara’s ability. It’s like saying I used to have an unreliable car, but now I’ve got a very unreliable car, so I wish I had my old one back. A better solution would be to get a totally different, reliable, car 11 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, MattWSM said: We are missing him or someone like Fam who can put defences under pressure with strength/ physicality No he didn't want to be here, so he would have been half hearted mess like the end of last season. I think the missing link is a Cauley Woodrow type but not the one that turned up for us, the other one. 3 minutes ago, pongo88 said: The fact we might be missing Famara is an indictment of Martins poor performances rather Famara’s ability. It’s like saying I used to have an unreliable car, but now I’ve got a very unreliable car, so I wish I had my old one back. A better solution would be to get a totally different, reliable, car Cracking analogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 If you're talking about the motivated Diedhiou then I agree, but the unmotivated, demoralised Diedhiou we saw last season would have less effect on results than the girl at the pasty stall has. One of the great things about motivated Fam was he was so excellent at heading away our opponents' corners and free kicks. His scoring rate of just under one in three was reasonable, but adding in his defensive work is what made him central to what we were doing at the time. His problem was his immobility and lack of first touch meant things had to be presented to him on a plate, meaning when he played the team had to all be focused on him, robbing us of other outlets. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 With Diedhiou we would still be lacking in pace and mobility up top. Given his performances towards the end of last season, we also can't be sure that Fam would show the effort and commitment that Pearson would demand. I do think we're missing a striker, but I don't think that Fam is that striker. I haven't thought "I wish Diedhiou was playing" at any point so far this season. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 We need someone like a motivated Fam with a bit more pace - quite simple really 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: We need someone like a motivated Fam with a bit more pace - quite simple really That lad up top for Millwall looked good, Ben someone 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, lukebcfc1989 said: No we really are not. Our play is much more fluid and Martin is a great target man at this level in spite of those who appear to have knives out for him atm... You actually think Martin is better than Fam? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 We were missing Famara from about Christmas last year, and that includes when he was playing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, lukebcfc1989 said: No we really are not. Our play is much more fluid and Martin is a great target man at this level in spite of those who appear to have knives out for him atm... Do you think Martin's performance last night was that of a 'great target man'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihai Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 2 hours ago, pongo88 said: The fact we might be missing Famara is an indictment of Martins poor performances rather Famara’s ability. It’s like saying I used to have an unreliable car, but now I’ve got a very unreliable car, so I wish I had my old one back. A better solution would be to get a totally different, reliable, car Totally agree with your point. Martin is way too slow and lacking dribbling also. Famara was dreadful to watch but he was running and pressing more tham Martin does. In my opinion we need a good dribbler and fast forward not a Target man. Playing on a Target man is mostly a gambling. While having a very fast and good dribbler that can win 1 on 1 will give us more goals. Like last time when Martin brain took ages to think what to do an in the end be missed a 2 yard pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 We gave no service to the strikers, why do we think that it's the strikers that are the issue? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: That lad up top for Millwall looked good, Ben someone...... Kanobi? We need the force with us in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgy Red Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Selred said: We gave no service to the strikers, why do we think that it's the strikers that are the issue? This sums it up perfectly. Nige is currently making us solid, organised and tough to beat which results in a lack of creativity and expression in our play. Stage 2 of the rebuild will be to try and add more creation in both the midfield and attacking areas. I do have to agree with the OP tho that Fam (when he could be bothered) would offer more of a threat in this team than Chris Martin is currently doing, even with the lack of creativity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Not the first time I have seen the words Famara and missing in the same sentence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: That lad up top for Millwall looked good, Ben someone Dover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 You have just got to be patient until the transfer window. Most on here know we need some cutting edge up front. Fammy can take a run and jump (actually he rarely ran when I saw him play) as far as I am concerned. Will take a season to sort the side out but I have faith in NP and IMO he is doing a good job based on the hand he was dealt. Gonna be a frustrating season for most of us but if City can continue to improve, then that is heading in the right direction. Still some strollers in the team that will need to be moved on if we can get a bid for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 We'd have a lot more pace and goals if we simply stuck Atyeo's statue on the pitch in place of Martin or Diedhiou. They are two of the laziest/disinterested/slow strikers we have ever had. Glad we got rid of one of them. It's now time to get rid of the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Robbored said: A fully fit Martin can do that but he wasn’t at the races last night for whatever reason. At Senior Reds a while ago Flint was asked who his hardest opponent was - without any hesitation he said “Chris Martin” Martin is one of those who needs managing carefully. He really does. If we don't manage him carefully, he will become steadily less effective and eventually we'll break him and he'll be out for some time. Definitely needs a rest IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Martin is one of those who needs managing carefully. He really does. If we don't manage him carefully, he will become steadily less effective and eventually we'll break him and he'll be out for some time. Definitely needs a rest IMO. Not sure he can get any less effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 Just now, Super said: Not sure he can get any less effective. If you look at how other clubs managed him, in the case of Derby they let him build up his strengths and reserves, it partially coincided with recovery from an injury and then even then he was rotated and was both effective and fairly fit- as for the here and now, he got goals vs Reading and Blackpool and an assist, then a goal at QPR. It's clear though that the more he plays without proper rest and conditioning, the less use he will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 No we're not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: If you look at how other clubs managed him, in the case of Derby they let him build up his strengths and reserves, it partially coincided with recovery from an injury and then even then he was rotated and was both effective and fairly fit- as for the here and now, he got goals vs Reading and Blackpool and an assist, then a goal at QPR. It's clear though that the more he plays without proper rest and conditioning, the less use he will be. Like i said he would be ok 3rd or 4th choice not playing every game. He was feeble last night granted he wasn't the only one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 hours ago, MattWSM said: We are missing him or someone like Fam who can put defences under pressure with strength/ physicality No we’re not , he was shite 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 I'd take someone who would score between 10-13 a season yes. People forget he was fairly consistent at getting goals each year barring the last 6 months where he was mentally done. He scored over 50 goals for this club and gets berated no end. Weimann's got maybe half of that and he's lorded as our saviour. People will forget the amount of wins he got us just because it didn't end well. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 30, 2021 Report Share Posted September 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, Super said: Like i said he would be ok 3rd or 4th choice not playing every game. He was feeble last night granted he wasn't the only one. Think he's better than 3rd or 4th choice but a good first reserve or in and out with Wells and Weimann that would maintain his stamina etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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