SouthS22 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Well, that was another really depressing Ashton Gate experience. They were on different planet to us but we were also terrible everywhere on the pitch except in defence, with the exception of Matty James who was decent as normal. very strange decisions on substitutions and changes in formation which just didn’t work- why we were playing 3 strikers when we couldn’t get near the ball I have no idea. I expected us to get beat today, but not to get as badly hammered as that - yes, it was only 2 but it could have easily been 8. We have got to get our home form sorted out, can’t take much more of this. Quote Link to comment
Selred Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Rationale behind Wells on when Williams off? Further outnumbering us in central areas though we had a lot of problems generally today. Certainly lacked the same fight etc as vs Fulham despite the significant quality gap. Absolutely shocking sub. Should not be playing 2 up front against Bournemouth who had 5 in midfield. Especially with 2 aging midfielders in the centre. Nige got it very wrong today. 2 Quote Link to comment
WessexPest Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 No sugar-coating that - absolute sewage, City. Utterly embarrassing that we haven’t won at home in nine months. If that doesn’t change soon we could very well be part of the relegation battle this season. Pearson, I have faith in you but you need to sort this out sharpish my old son. Nothing less than three points in midweek will suffice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
italian dave Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: We aren’t going to compete with a bankrolled hobby club with parachute payments. What people saw as lack of effort out there today was more like lack of confidence and belief. We never believed we could get anything and gave them too much respect. We competed with Fulham. Peterborough competed with Bournemouth. 1 Quote Link to comment
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, WessexPest said: No sugar-coating that - absolute sewage, City. Utterly embarrassing that we haven’t won at home in nine months. If that doesn’t change soon we could very well be part of the relegation battle this season. Pearson, I have faith in you but you need to sort this out sharpish my old son. Nothing less than three points in midweek will suffice. Think home form is more of a revenue issue than a league position issue. If we can’t win at home, difficult to expect the faithful to stay faithful, but if we continue doing well away we needn’t be in any danger of relegation. 22nd in home table, 2nd in away table (Bournemouth top), equals 11th overall. 2 Quote Link to comment
Northern Red Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 **** me a defeat brings them all out. There's a fair bit to pick over after that but there are some very jerky knees out there. Quote Link to comment
Top Robin Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Changed your mind again then? Nope Quote Link to comment
winsaw Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 I actually quite like the idea of going 433 after the first sub, it's far more attacking then we usually are at home, if the midfield had the same energy they had against Fulham it could have worked , sadly today with a fair number not turning up we may have been better going 451 and trying to grind something out although I feel there class would have still seen them beat us, Quote Link to comment
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 32 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: I completely understand Bournemouth are on financial steroids in comparison to us, but I swear a non league team in our position if played that team in the fa Cup would have done more than we have today. Embarrassing level of competitiveness. Williams going off was a blow of course but tactically not the best switch. Quote Link to comment
Super Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: We aren’t going to compete with a bankrolled hobby club with parachute payments. What people saw as lack of effort out there today was more like lack of confidence and belief. We never believed we could get anything and gave them too much respect. Not this nonsense again. Quote Link to comment
Kingswood Robin Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, nickolas said: This. 5 years of PL money and now Parachute payments shows the sheer gulf in revenue for the unfair parachute payment rules. But you can still get stuck in, show little respect and have a bloody go. That was frankly rather pathetic! Precisely. My first game in 19 months and goodness me, that was pathetic. Only thing worth going for was to watch Bournemouth. So disheartening to see what was a tinpot outfit down the road play better than I've ever seen my team play in 39 years of watching. Quote Link to comment
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Northern Red said: **** me a defeat brings them all out. There's a fair bit to pick over after that but there are some very jerky knees out there. Very similar to the knee jerk celebrations and the hailing of Nige as the Messiah whenever we win away… Edited October 16, 2021 by The Dolman Pragmatist 1 Quote Link to comment
cidercity1987 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That was the first time we've truly at home been battered this season. Vs Fulham, they had more of the play but we had our chances too. None of that today. Atkinson and Massengo, where are/were they? Williams going off injured likely didn't help either. We were terrible but we also had 3 clear cut chances (Wells twice in the 6 yard box and Martin piss weak header) Needed our strikers to do their job and we might have had a miracle point Quote Link to comment
Super Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Only thing bad about Bournemouth was the kit! Quote Link to comment
Banjo Red Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ohhhshauntaylor said: I think pathetic sums that up. Time for Bell, Janneh, Scott etc to play @ home. Agreed Quote Link to comment
INCRED Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, nickolas said: This. 5 years of PL money and now Parachute payments shows the sheer gulf in revenue for the unfair parachute payment rules. But you can still get stuck in, show little respect and have a bloody go. That was frankly rather pathetic! My exact same opinion today of what was lacking, not one player was prepared to get stuck in to them Yes, they have very good players but I bet if a few of ours started to go in hard in a few tackles and a few dark arts then they would be a little more hesitant in thinking they had time on the ball watching the first half of Brentford v Chelsea and Brentford have got stuck right into Chelsea and physically challenged them, that’s what I expect to see our players do otherwise you will just get picked off time & again Quote Link to comment
Top Robin Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Northern Red said: Changed your mind again then? Just because I would like our manager to explain the reasons for such a dire performance and how he may look to prevent future ones does not mean I want him sacked. I think that's the least we should expect from a manager. Quote Link to comment
nickolas Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 So, King went off injured with 15 mins left and we played with ten men?! How did i miss that, i dunno Jeff! seriously, did anyone see him go off?! The game was that poor, as was King, that i had no idea we had ten men! 1 Quote Link to comment
RedM Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Wanderingred said: We aren’t going to compete with a bankrolled hobby club with parachute payments. What people saw as lack of effort out there today was more like lack of confidence and belief. We never believed we could get anything and gave them too much respect. I agree. It’s almost like we were beaten from the start, we really never looked up for it. That surprised me as we have tended to raise our game against bigger/better opposition. Lots of comments from people around me saying they were bored too, very little to cheer about today. But as you say parachute payments are a huge factor. Add into this on the whole stable and decent management over the past few years and an owner not worried about financial penalties if he bends the rules and no wonder we are finding it difficult to compete. The playing field isn’t level. 5 Quote Link to comment
wendyredredrobin Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, nickolas said: So, King went off injured with 15 mins left and we played with ten men?! How did i miss that, i dunno Jeff! seriously, did anyone see him go off?! The game was that poor, as was King, that i had no idea we had ten men! TBH it looked like we were playing with 10 men right from the kick off. I can accept being beaten by a better team but I find it intolerable when we go down without even putting up a fight. Yes, Bournemouth are a very good team, but we should still have tried to give them a game. Edited October 16, 2021 by wendyredredrobin 6 1 Quote Link to comment
RedM Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, nickolas said: So, King went off injured with 15 mins left and we played with ten men?! How did i miss that, i dunno Jeff! seriously, did anyone see him go off?! The game was that poor, as was King, that i had no idea we had ten men! Yes he did. Walked straight off after treatment down the tunnel. 75 mins on the clock, so we played 18 minutes with 10 men, and probably not our worse spell in the match either. 1 Quote Link to comment
Numero Uno Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: TBH it looked like we were playing with 10 men right from the kick off. I can accept being beaten by a better team but I find it intolerable when we go down without even putting up a fight. Yes, Bournemouth are a very good team, but we should still have tried to give them a game. This is the message that keeps repeating tonight. (Almost) everyone realises that Nige has got a very limited squad to work with and that results will very much be a mixed bag. What NOBODY will accept whether they have extreme or balanced opinions on the club, whether they think Nige should be sacked after every bad performance or whether they think he should be given three years to build something better, is watching us surrender on a Saturday afternoon. Bournemouth are better than us, everyone knows that, but don't go and hand them the game on a china plate with a silver service. 9 Quote Link to comment
nickolas Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, redrob said: Cahill in on a free. True. Why are we not competing with teams like Bournemouth? Because players like Cahill are on £75k a week!!! There in lies the difference. Wage budget not transfer fees my friend! Exactly my point re parachutes. Most ridiculous rule that exists. They couldnt afford this without them so why should they be allowed such an advantage for the failure of relegation from the PL?! The championship just isnt a level playing field but the money from PL is exactly why we have to try and find our way there somehow! Edited October 16, 2021 by nickolas Quote Link to comment
Netnanny Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, redrob said: Cahill in on a free. True. Why are we not competing with teams like Bournemouth? Because players like Cahill are on £75k a week!!! There in lies the difference. Wage budget not transfer fees my friend! 1. Those figures are guesses. 2. Begovic, King, Gosling and Danjuma no longer play for Bournemouth. Quote Link to comment
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, pillred said: home win means so much, are you serious? we have not won at home for over 9 months. Yep, our home form is rubbish, but why do people add on three months when we didn’t actually play any games?! 3 Quote Link to comment
Numero Uno Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Yep, our home form is rubbish, but why do people add on three months when we didn’t actually play any games?! Agreed, that's every bit as pathetic as the home run itself. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
BS4 on Tour... Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Haha meant Tuesday. Too many golds That’s what Usain Bolt said .... Quote Link to comment
WessexPest Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Think home form is more of a revenue issue than a league position issue. If we can’t win at home, difficult to expect the faithful to stay faithful, but if we continue doing well away we needn’t be in any danger of relegation. 22nd in home table, 2nd in away table (Bournemouth top), equals 11th overall. We can’t rely on our away form indefinitely though. We need to start picking up points at home - can you see us getting anything at West Brom, for instance. I can’t. Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t panic stations yet but just when it looks like we might be turning the corner we put in a turd of a display like that. It’s incredible that we managed to land a coach of the calibre of NP and we are still awaiting a home win under him. It’s not good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment
WessexPest Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Agreed, that's every bit as pathetic as the home run itself. Okay then - seven points from a possible 48. That’s ruddy atrocious whichever way you look at it. Quote Link to comment
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, WessexPest said: We can’t rely on our away form indefinitely though. We need to start picking up points at home - can you see us getting anything at West Brom, for instance. I can’t. Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t panic stations yet but just when it looks like we might be turning the corner we put in a turd of a display like that. It’s incredible that we managed to land a coach of the calibre of NP and we are still awaiting a home win under him. It’s not good enough. Guess I’m not convinced we can say our home form will continue, but our away form won’t. At the moment we’ve got a squad that’s better suited to playing against teams looking to come forward, rather than break down teams set up to defend (and we’re fundamentally not as good as top 3 and maybe a few others). No one can be happy with home form, but as it stands we’re 11th with a 4/4/4 record, that’s better than I expected. Clearly it could get worse, but it equally it might not. 1 Quote Link to comment
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