ExiledAjax Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, GreedyHarry said: I know it’s not as powerful as Twitter but I’ve just put it on my Instagram account. And not sure if I’ve done the @ and # things properly either but it’s worth a try. Great idea. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 It's not an insignificant number. 18000 means 1500 statistically could suffer. I do honestly think I would stop going if I suffered, and not as though it's a costly or difficult thing to sort out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: It's not an insignificant number. 18000 means 1500 statistically could suffer. I do honestly think I would stop going if I suffered, and not as though it's a costly or difficult thing to sort out. I saw that you got retweeted by the Colourblind Awareness Org. Thank you again for helping to raise the profile of the issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I saw that you got retweeted by the Colourblind Awareness Org. Thank you again for helping to raise the profile of the issue. No problem, hope it helps in a small way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamdon Mart Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 I was doing my prep earlier this afternoon & noticed we would be having this conversation again tonight. Barnsley played at Middlesbrough two games ago & changed to the green kit as seen in this picture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hamdon Mart said: I was doing my prep earlier this afternoon & noticed we would be having this conversation again tonight. Barnsley played at Middlesbrough two games ago & changed to the green kit as seen in this picture. Yeh, I posted the highlights of that game above. I suspect our game won't be quite as awful as we have the white shorts rather than red like Boro. However, for those sat high up, or in long camera shots, at corners and the like, it is going to be hard. BBC is forecasting a 25% chance of rain as well, and if it does soak those kits then it will be even worse. Hope your job isn't too awful tomorrow, and let me know if there is more chat in the press box. If Gregor could bring this up in the post-match then I'd love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkhamred Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Watching QPR v Forest tonight makes me think that they are unlikely to be able to do a late change of kit unless they go with no poppies on the front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Barkhamred said: Watching QPR v Forest tonight makes me think that they are unlikely to be able to do a late change of kit unless they go with no poppies on the front. Ah have they started wearing poppies. Yeh I can't imagine they will change then, unless they have a set of alternatives that also have it. I won't really be able to tell if Barnsley have poppies on their green shirts or not though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 57 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Ah have they started wearing poppies. Yeh I can't imagine they will change then, unless they have a set of alternatives that also have it. I won't really be able to tell if Barnsley have poppies on their green shirts or not though! Exactly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Just a quick update. Mike from the Supporters Club (who is on here I think) has replied to my email and they have contacted Barnsley FC. Now, whether they are able to react to the email before tomorrow is a different matter. I just thought it was worth highlighting that our club acted on a Friday evening to highlight the problem, and I think that is amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, GreedyHarry said: Just a quick update. Mike from the Supporters Club (who is on here I think) has replied to my email and they have contacted Barnsley FC. Now, whether they are able to react to the email before tomorrow is a different matter. I just thought it was worth highlighting that our club acted on a Friday evening to highlight the problem, and I think that is amazing. No acknowledgment from Barnsley on my tweet….not that I expected them to. Gregor is picking up the baton though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No acknowledgment from Barnsley on my tweet….not that I expected them to. Gregor is picking up the baton though. I was speaking to Piercy after the Bournemouth game. He said he's actually colourblind as well and has been wanting to do a piece on the issue for a while. Tomorrow is going to to messy, I'd be interested to see how it goes on Twitter. If Gregor wants to chat afterwards then you've got my DM Fevs. 1 hour ago, GreedyHarry said: Just a quick update. Mike from the Supporters Club (who is on here I think) has replied to my email and they have contacted Barnsley FC. Now, whether they are able to react to the email before tomorrow is a different matter. I just thought it was worth highlighting that our club acted on a Friday evening to highlight the problem, and I think that is amazing. I've been speaking to Mike since August on this, he's been great at taking it to the Club(s). He said the same to me today, and that the SC&T will be looking at this in more detail going forward. Edited October 29, 2021 by ExiledAjax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Out of interest, was this bad again today for those of you affected? Was a little disappointed to see the green kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dredd said: Out of interest, was this bad again today for those of you affected? Was a little disappointed to see the green kit Yes it was awful. If City didn’t wear white shorts I’d really struggle in games like today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Sorry to hear that. Very surprised to see the same clash so soon after it was highlighted in the Bournemouth game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 56 minutes ago, Offside said: Yes it was awful. If City didn’t wear white shorts I’d really struggle in games like today. Yes, thanks for asking @Dredd. Honestly, for me it wasn't as awful as I feared. I watched on RobinsTV and it was bad, but the shorts and clear weather helped a bit. It's worst at corners etc, so those second half goal mouth scrambles were tricky. Not awful, but pretty bad. Some will have found it impossible though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, Dredd said: Sorry to hear that. Very surprised to see the same clash so soon after it was highlighted in the Bournemouth game Stoke's away kit is light green and they have no third kit. So more joy to come in a couple of games time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreedyHarry Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Stoke's away kit is light green and they have no third kit. So more joy to come in a couple of games time! See, now this is interesting. If this was a Saturday match in the daylight I’d have no problem with that shade but, a night match, with artificial light, I’m not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 To be fair, its not really an option for a club to change their away kit, or home kit of course, mid way through a season. It would open up a whole can of worms for fans who have purchased replicas, etc. I,m sure this has been mentioned earlier in the thread but couldn't be arsed to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Stoke's away kit is light green and they have no third kit. So more joy to come in a couple of games time! That's grass coloured. Sneaky... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Calculus said: That's grass coloured. Sneaky... Yeh that is actually more my concern. This particular shade of green shouldn't be too much of a blend with our red. Someone with very severe red colour blindness might struggle, but most will be OK. However, I think we might see complaints from normal sighted people instead. 42 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: To be fair, its not really an option for a club to change their away kit, or home kit of course, mid way through a season. It would open up a whole can of worms for fans who have purchased replicas, etc. I,m sure this has been mentioned earlier in the thread but couldn't be arsed to look. I don't want them to change a whole kit half way through a season. I It's more about clubs choosing which match to use the green one in. For example Barnsley could wear that green kit at Fulham, PNE, Derby etc, and wear their white 3rd shirt with the green shorts and socks when they play us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) But for Fulham, Derby, Preston they would wear their red surely? Edited October 30, 2021 by The Horse With No Name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, The Horse With No Name said: But for Fulham, Derby, Preston etc they would wear red surely? If they wanted to sure. But they could wear their away kit there, and then the third kit against red teams. If they want to a) give all 3 kits some airtime to boost sales, and b) want to be considerate to all of their fans, then they should just give a little more thought to which game they use each kit in. That is all I am asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 21:38, ExiledAjax said: If they wanted to sure. But they could wear their away kit there, and then the third kit against red teams. If they want to a) give all 3 kits some airtime to boost sales, and b) want to be considerate to all of their fans, then they should just give a little more thought to which game they use each kit in. That is all I am asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Cheers. I'd been told they were going to make a statement on the issue soon. It's good to see, and hopefully will lead to some actual changes. I spoke to the SC&T during the week and they're actively working with the Club. I believe there's an EFL "forum" on the matter this week as well, which City and most of the other 71 clubs will attend. Scott Murray is also hot on the issue and apparently does make an effort to consider the matter when selecting kit. Through the SC&T I've provided him with my list of recommended kits for our remaining away games. We are limited in what we can do with teams at home, although writing to the EFL is something I think we should have done long ago. There still needs to be some actual change to accompany the words written and spoken, but some good progress has been made over the past few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just to put something on record. I know, because I was involved in this, that the Club included the greyscale picture because they know that greyscale is an easy and quick way to show 'normal' sighted people how colour blindness can cause difficulty. This isn't the Club being ignorant (as perhaps the Colour Blind Awareness Org have assumed), it's actually them being quite informed. I wish they'd clarified this when they tweeted. I also wish they spoken to the CBAO before making a statement - I did make that recommendation. No big deal I guess, but it irks me when good intentions are then wrongly perceived due to poor communication. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 On Saturday I couldn’t distinguish between the colours of the kits worn by the Blackburn keeper and their outfield players. In the second half whenever he caught the ball my first instinct was that we’d get a penalty for handball . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I was watching MOTD over the weekend, couple of teams have a really bright, lemon yellow away kit - looked great. We should do that. We often used to have a yellow away kit, back in the late '80s/early '90s - why not now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) On Saturday I couldn’t distinguish between the colours of the kits worn by the Blackburn keeper and their outfield players. In the second half whenever he caught the ball my first instinct was that we’d get a penalty for handball . Yep. Neither could I. I find it the least problematic mix up, but it's still bad. It's a shame as Blackburn's away kit will generally not be a problem for most. On wednesday Stoke are coming to town. They'll likely wear their green away kit, with black shorts. It's under the lights so will be bad for some. Here's their game v Luton from a week or so ago. If anyone can tell these two apart I'll be amazed. I'm still speaking to clubs and organisations to try and drive some change. Edited November 22, 2021 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Yep. Neither could I. I find it the least problematic mix up, but it's still bad. It's a shame as Blackburn's away kit will generally not be a problem for most. On wednesday Stoke are coming to town. They'll likely wear their green away kit, with black shorts. It's under the lights so will be bad for some. Here's their game v Luton from a week or so ago. If anyone can tell these two apart I'll be amazed. I'm still speaking to clubs and organisations to try and drive some change. I just don’t get the EFL (or any other footballing body) allowing opposing teams to wear the same colour shorts. There was a time when all elements of the kits had to contrast - when did that rule change and why ffs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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