GrahamC Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Firstly, it’s a penalty. Their bloke trips Scott, who might tumble theatrically but it’s a foul, so it’s a penalty & if the ref really thinks not, then why doesn’t he book Scott for diving? So if we score that (not a given with our record, though as we are coming up to a year since we had one in the league then that isn’t based on too much), we are 2 up & I reckon we’d have held on. Secondly their winner is as clear a handball as you can get, poor by Bentley, we also should have done far better to stop the cross but I can’t believe that it was given. None of this excuses the result but we could certainly do with the rub of the green in a game at BS3. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Firstly, it’s a penalty. Their bloke trips Scott, who might tumble theatrically but it’s a foul, so it’s a penalty & if the ref really thinks not, then why doesn’t he book Scott for diving? So if we score that (not a given with our record, though as we are coming up to a year since we had one in the league then that isn’t based on too much), we are 2 up & I reckon we’d have held on. Secondly their winner is as clear a handball as you can get, poor by Bentley, we also should have done far better to stop the cross but I can’t believe that it was given. None of this excuses the result but we could certainly do with the rub of the green in a game at BS3. They should also of had a penalty so i think they evened themselves out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Firstly, it’s a penalty. Their bloke trips Scott, who might tumble theatrically but it’s a foul, so it’s a penalty & if the ref really thinks not, then why doesn’t he book Scott for diving? So if we score that (not a given with our record, though as we are coming up to a year since we had one in the league then that isn’t based on too much), we are 2 up & I reckon we’d have held on. Secondly their winner is as clear a handball as you can get, poor by Bentley, we also should have done far better to stop the cross but I can’t believe that it was given. None of this excuses the result but we could certainly do with the rub of the green in a game at BS3. Totally agree on both points. But when it's not going your way that's how desicions go . Over all pretty impressed with city's performance and I did like Martin and wells together up front Just now, GTFABM said: They should also of had a penalty so i think they evened themselves out. There penalty appeal was no way a penalty, ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Totally agree on both points. But when it's not going your way that's how desicions go . Over all pretty impressed with city's performance and I did like Martin and wells together up front There penalty appeal was no way a penalty, ever. You think if one of their defenders completely checked/barged one of our players miles off the ball in the box you would be saying that. I get seeing a game through rose tinted glasses but thats a penalty all day long 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, GTFABM said: You think if one of their defenders completely checked/barged one of our players miles off the ball in the box you would be saying that. I get seeing a game through rose tinted glasses but thats a penalty all day long I don’t recall their penalty shout….can you remind me which players, which half, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I don’t recall their penalty shout….can you remind me which players, which half, etc? James body checked their right back (i think). 2nd half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, GTFABM said: James body checked their right back (i think). 2nd half It was a really poor challenge because the ball was rolling to our player anyway. Definite foul for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, mozo said: It was a really poor challenge because the ball was rolling to our player anyway. Definite foul for me. Thats how i seen it. No eyes for the ball just a blatant block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Firstly, it’s a penalty. Their bloke trips Scott, who might tumble theatrically but it’s a foul, so it’s a penalty & if the ref really thinks not, then why doesn’t he book Scott for diving? So if we score that (not a given with our record, though as we are coming up to a year since we had one in the league then that isn’t based on too much), we are 2 up & I reckon we’d have held on. Secondly their winner is as clear a handball as you can get, poor by Bentley, we also should have done far better to stop the cross but I can’t believe that it was given. None of this excuses the result but we could certainly do with the rub of the green in a game at BS3. We are Lansdown just outside of the area, while I shouted for a Pen my mate was sure it wasn't. The Ref signalled to the ball so I think he thought the defender got a touch, this would also explain why Scott wasn't booked. He may have thought there was contact after the tackle. I've watched the replay, it looks a blatant hand ball from the wrong side. The Linesman was the right side for it, but it seemed neither wanted to get involved with the game, just throws and the occasional offside. I really don't think we will be getting much luck when we defend our box for 45 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, 1960maaan said: We are Lansdown just outside of the area, while I shouted for a Pen my mate was sure it wasn't. The Ref signalled to the ball so I think he thought the defender got a touch, this would also explain why Scott wasn't booked. He may have thought there was contact after the tackle. I've watched the replay, it looks a blatant hand ball from the wrong side. The Linesman was the right side for it, but it seemed neither wanted to get involved with the game, just throws and the occasional offside. I really don't think we will be getting much luck when we defend our box for 45 minutes. Not arguing with your last point at all, but having seen the winner again, it is blatant. VAR would definitely have disallowed it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Not arguing with your last point at all, but having seen the winner again, it is blatant. VAR would definitely have disallowed it. VAR can get in the bin. Kasey Palmers goal against Fulham get’s ruled out aswell through VAR. Over a season they roughly level out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 I think var gives us our penalty and not there's . But var is also subjective to the opinion of those watching it . I still find it amazing how we can all watch the same game and see it differently 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, mozo said: It was a really poor challenge because the ball was rolling to our player anyway. Definite foul for me. Well we all said we'd have given it. Obviously not as clear cut as the one they got - probably a 70/30 shout in favour of the pen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: We are Lansdown just outside of the area, while I shouted for a Pen my mate was sure it wasn't. The Ref signalled to the ball so I think he thought the defender got a touch, this would also explain why Scott wasn't booked. He may have thought there was contact after the tackle. I've watched the replay, it looks a blatant hand ball from the wrong side. The Linesman was the right side for it, but it seemed neither wanted to get involved with the game, just throws and the occasional offside. I really don't think we will be getting much luck when we defend our box for 45 minutes. The Linos are in constant contact with the referee for 90 minutes, through their headsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: The Linos are in constant contact with the referee for 90 minutes, through their headsets. I know, but they practically never make a decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 I'm still not sure on that pen. Hardly any contact and he throws himself to the floor which he does a lot tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, 1960maaan said: I know, but they practically never make a decision. How do you know! The referee has the whistle, and they are communicating with him. They may be advising him on dozens of decisions for all we know. Thats how it works nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: How do you know! The referee has the whistle, and they are communicating with him. They may be advising him on dozens of decisions for all we know. Thats how it works nowadays. You still see Lino's flagging for things, so why would they flag for some decisions they make, and not others. It has been mentioned that some Refs ask for offsides and throws nothing else, hopefully current Ref's aren't that dictatorial , but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Totally agree on both points. But when it's not going your way that's how desicions go . Over all pretty impressed with city's performance and I did like Martin and wells together up front There penalty appeal was no way a penalty, ever. What game did you flipping watch if martin was ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, GTFABM said: They should also of had a penalty so i think they evened themselves out. Game would’ve been different of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, archie andrews said: What game did you flipping watch if martin was ok? Agree he was bloody awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: I think var gives us our penalty and not there's . But var is also subjective to the opinion of those watching it . I still find it amazing how we can all watch the same game and see it differently Not there's? Baker cleans him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Not arguing with your last point at all, but having seen the winner again, it is blatant. VAR would definitely have disallowed it. Is this the wrong time to mention that VAR would have ruled out our goal against Fulham? Edited October 20, 2021 by pl00peh91 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, Super said: I'm still not sure on that pen. Hardly any contact and he throws himself to the floor which he does a lot tbh. And that's probably why he'd miss out on a legitimate pen shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Firstly, it’s a penalty. Their bloke trips Scott, who might tumble theatrically but it’s a foul, so it’s a penalty & if the ref really thinks not, then why doesn’t he book Scott for diving? So if we score that (not a given with our record, though as we are coming up to a year since we had one in the league then that isn’t based on too much), we are 2 up & I reckon we’d have held on. Secondly their winner is as clear a handball as you can get, poor by Bentley, we also should have done far better to stop the cross but I can’t believe that it was given. None of this excuses the result but we could certainly do with the rub of the green in a game at BS3. That's two injury time mishaps from our keeper in injury time at a cost of 3 points this season. Easy solution, get Max on after 88 minutes...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Looked stonewall to me. If we had scored that, the game would have completely changed and they probably wouldn’t have got one up the other end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: You still see Lino's flagging for things, so why would they flag for some decisions they make, and not others. It has been mentioned that some Refs ask for offsides and throws nothing else, hopefully current Ref's aren't that dictatorial , but who knows. Sometimes it’s easier to shout “foul” in the refs earpiece, than it is to wave your flag about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) Penalty for them was a less than convincing decision let's say, well perhaps it was but ours was equally as good a call. Surely a handball for the winner as well. When it rains, it can pour. Edited October 20, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, pl00peh91 said: Is this the wrong time to mention that VAR would have ruled out our goal against Fulham? Yes, we got lucky there. However VAR might also have seen Chalobah was it, receive a 2nd yellow in the 1st half. Instead he was substituted at halftime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Watched the highlights on Quest and rewound the winner a few times. Handball or upper arm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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