pillred Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, Phileas Fogg said: Well the three you're referring to are some of the most likely to have some. You know that as well, just being obtuse for the sake of it. Strange pursuit in my opinion. The official site and all that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I would imagine he's having Chemotherapy and it's probably not practical for him to work with the players. So that combined with other stuff like being demoted would probably figure into him wanting to leave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, Northern Red said: Excellent, another thread about to be ruined... Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Excellent, another thread about to be ruined... 4 minutes ago, Clevedon Red said: Indeed You're right - won't bite anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Had a feeling one of the coaches would leave… Too many chefs and all that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Well the three you're referring to are some of the most likely to have some. You know that as well, just being obtuse for the sake of it. Strange pursuit in my opinion. If any poster had any genuine inside knowledge they’d hardly post it on here and why it’s all speculation and rumour. The only things I believe are posted on the OS - that’s the only way we know that it’s genuine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 43 minutes ago, Henry said: Any chance of some concrete information? Here you go 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I'm very most not one of the posters with inside info but I'd imagine there's no horrific or nefarious secret reason underpinning this. Simpson (and Downing) were appointed by the previous regime. Pearson is not only likely to want his own people in but has done so already in getting Fleming in. I don't want to criticise Simpson as I've no idea what he's done or not done, or how much Holden or Pearson have listened to his ideas. But it's utterly fair enough for any manager to want their own coaching staff. Good luck to Simpson where he goes next but I'm neither shocked nor horrified by a change being made. Completely this. Once it was confirmed Fleming was not only staying but was being given a position that placed him above Simpson, Downing & Cisse in the hierarchy, it was obvious we had too many coaches & someone would leave. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Had a feeling one of the coaches would leave… Too many chefs and all that. I'd say it's fairly likely Pearson knew early on whether he'd want to work with the existing coaching staff. Realistically I'd say it's fairly unlikely if a manager would want to keep on the old coaching team if he could so help it. I know it's unfair as we don't see their day to day work, but I've never been quite sold on Downing or Simpson. Came across as a bit dour to me and didn't seem like Pearson's sort of people. I get the impression people likes to work with disciplinarian type coaches. Fleming seems more the sort of coach I can imagine Pearson wanting to work with. Edited October 22, 2021 by Phileas Fogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Yep, could be. Will Downing be the next? However Simpson has been unwell so maybe that’s played a part Probably. He’s a successful singer so doesn’t need the cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Completely this. Once it was confirmed Fleming was not only staying but was being given a position that placed him above Simpson, Downing & Cisse in the hierarchy, it was obvious we had too many coaches & someone would leave. And…if it was health reasons, they’d (OS) have said so. I really don’t see why some posters think it’s anything other that Pearson not wanting him. That’s not trying to be ITK, but reality of the situation, hence mutual termination. Good luck to Simmo btw. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I know it's unfair as we don't see their day to day work, I suppose you could say we see the result of their day-to-day work when we see players failing to link with team mates, failing to spot runners, not quite knowing who to mark. That might sound harsh, but I've not been that impressed with our on-field organisation for a while. Whether that's down to Simpson & Downing I couldn't say, but it is a fact that most teams playing at AG seem better drilled than us. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, Henry said: Any chance of some concrete information? don't have any! was a little joke after Nige's comments on Tuesday night, seems like pretty suspicious timing to say that and then let someone go soon after tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: And…if it was health reasons, they’d (OS) have said so. I really don’t see why some posters think it’s anything other that Pearson not wanting him. That’s not trying to be ITK, but reality of the situation, hence mutual termination. Good luck to Simmo btw. Not necessarily Dave. His cancer issue has been made public but none of us know how successful or unsuccessful his treatment has been. It could be the latter and that type of information would not be disclosed in public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I think the statement is quite abrupt, and if it was health related, I’d have expected it to be a bit warmer. So I go with the theory it’s NP getting rid. A thought is that Carlisle are currently managerless. Simpson had some success there before so might it be he’s going for that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Henry said: Any chance of some concrete information? Dont leave it too long or it goes hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Henry said: Any chance of some concrete information? Concrete information is needed in order to reinforce the announcement and ensure the decision is cemented in place and set in stone. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I hope for Paul's sake, that it is not health related? I don't believe it is. I have been concerned for a while about the possible levels of coaching ........at the High Performance Centre (Misnomer?). Some of the basic aspects of our play, eg Passing, tackling, corners (Taken and Defended), positional play, organisation etc, to my eyes, leave a lot to be desired. The coaching staff have had adequate time to stamp their abilities and education onto the squad, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement in the quality of our performances, and have wondered if the standard of coaching is up to scratch?. I am well aware that I have no means or access to the coaching that takes place, apart from what i see on the pitch, but i would think there is plenty of room for improvement? I would hope that a coach of a higher quality could be recruited, which would hopefully motivate and improve the squad. It will be interesting to see if Nige has someone in mind? PS. It made me laugh that Andy Weimann made the point at the Hen & Chicken, that our players have run more distance during games than the opposition, as if this was a good thing? It might mean they are fit Andy......but also, that we are constantly chasing the other team to try to get the ball back? 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Robbored said: Nonsense. It’s all wild speculation and rumour. Very few, if any posters on here any ‘inside’ knowledge. Wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: I hope for Paul's sake, that it is not health related? I don't believe it is. I have been concerned for a while about the possible levels of coaching ........at the High Performance Centre (Misnomer?). Some of the basic aspects of our play, eg Passing, tackling, corners (Taken and Defended), positional play, organisation etc, to my eyes, leave a lot to be desired. The coaching staff have had adequate time to stamp their abilities and education onto the squad, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement in the quality of our performances, and have wondered if the standard of coaching is up to scratch?. I am well aware that I have no means or access to the coaching that takes place, apart from what i see on the pitch, but i would think there is plenty of room for improvement? I would hope that a coach of a higher quality could be recruited, which would hopefully motivate and improve the squad. It will be interesting to see if Nige has someone in mind? PS. It made me laugh that Andy Weimann made the point at the Hen & Chicken, that our players have run more distance during games than the opposition, as if this was a good thing? It might mean they are fit Andy......but also, that we are constantly chasing the other team to try to get the ball back? This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, Major Isewater said: Dont leave it too long or it goes hard. As I've got older I've found the opposite when leaving it too long. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxjak said: I hope for Paul's sake, that it is not health related? I don't believe it is. I have been concerned for a while about the possible levels of coaching ........at the High Performance Centre (Misnomer?). Some of the basic aspects of our play, eg Passing, tackling, corners (Taken and Defended), positional play, organisation etc, to my eyes, leave a lot to be desired. The coaching staff have had adequate time to stamp their abilities and education onto the squad, but I have not seen any noticeable improvement in the quality of our performances, and have wondered if the standard of coaching is up to scratch?. I am well aware that I have no means or access to the coaching that takes place, apart from what i see on the pitch, but i would think there is plenty of room for improvement? I would hope that a coach of a higher quality could be recruited, which would hopefully motivate and improve the squad. It will be interesting to see if Nige has someone in mind? PS. It made me laugh that Andy Weimann made the point at the Hen & Chicken, that our players have run more distance during games than the opposition, as if this was a good thing? It might mean they are fit Andy......but also, that we are constantly chasing the other team to try to get the ball back? In my corporate working days, had a boss who constantly told us that what was more important than working harder, was working smarter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Hope he finds a new job and he is well. Seems like a good guy, speaks well and with a lot of enthusiasm in his interviews. Was impressed with that England under 20s team Simpson managed that won the world cup. Think I watched every game. Had them playing good stuff. Always seemed a bit of a weird one bringing him in if the reason was he was proven at England youth levels. He did have a lot of quality there to pick from and it's not really anything like championship football or the job of a coach or assistant manager at championship level. It's a shame there was never any chance of us bringing in Shakespeare. I remember @Ostrich making a comment that there is a general feeling among Leicester fans that Nige can't do it without Shakespeare. I hope that isn't true. I wonder if we bring in another coach, probably not unless Downing goes as well. I think there might be something in the "Batman no good without Robin" thoughts Wouldn't be surprised if Shakespeare arrives in some capacity and others leave (Downing and Cisse) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Hope he finds a new job and he is well. Seems like a good guy, speaks well and with a lot of enthusiasm in his interviews. Was impressed with that England under 20s team Simpson managed that won the world cup. Think I watched every game. Had them playing good stuff. Always seemed a bit of a weird one bringing him in if the reason was he was proven at England youth levels. He did have a lot of quality there to pick from and it's not really anything like championship football or the job of a coach or assistant manager at championship level. It's a shame there was never any chance of us bringing in Shakespeare. I remember @Ostrich making a comment that there is a general feeling among Leicester fans that Nige can't do it without Shakespeare. I hope that isn't true. I wonder if we bring in another coach, probably not unless Downing goes as well. As Nige isn't really a "hands on" coaching type of manager, the role of Senior Coach with the club is surely of paramount importance? I would like to see a quality defensive specialist coach (Ex-top grade player) and a also a specialised coach for the attack. I do not know if we have the ability and financial wherewithal to achieve this, but as i believe we do have the necessary talent at the club, the correct appointments could be crucial in getting the very best out of the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, VT05763 said: I think there might be something in the "Batman no good without Robin" thoughts Wouldn't be surprised if Shakespeare arrives in some capacity and others leave (Downing and Cisse) I can't see him leaving a job as AM at the premier league club that he supported as a boy, to come here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostrich Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I remember @Ostrich making a comment that there is a general feeling among Leicester fans that Nige can't do it without Shakespeare. Yes. Certainly an acknowledgement that Pearson, Shakespeare, Walsh were a team and even those that love Nige would say it was just him. Idk how fair it is to say he can’t do it without them, he didn’t have him at Carlisle or Southampton but they were just short-term rescue jobs. Shakespeare has the benefit of continuing into Ranieri’s time which makes it look even more like he was the glue that held it together. It seems he was more the day-to-day coach and bridge between squad and manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I wish him well health wise but not sorry to see him goal at all. Nige needs his people in his team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 I never know?.............are flames a good or a bad response to a post? Ha! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underhanded Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 Could the mods make 'wild speculation and rumour' part of the swear filter? It'd be nice not to see that interminable phrase bandied around for the 1000th time 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted October 22, 2021 Report Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, petehinton said: the bus has lost a passenger Out of likes, brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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