Pezo Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Port Said Red said: I think the voucher code (2 4 1) offer may have had an effect, and perhaps shows there is an audience out there at a particular price point. Yes to be fair my comments (apart from the "how shit must you be" stuff) was more of a response to the annoying negativity from other posters. The stuff about shouting down other chants was more about previous seasons so I take that back. I am right on the edge of the singing section but even from there, myself or others around us have prompted some chants. It's something I have often found fascinating, why sometimes an individual shout will become a chant and yet often it can just fall on deaf ears. I'll bet there is a paper somewhere that someone has done for their dissertation sometime on just that phenomena. I bet there is something that would link it to fluid dynamics especially turbulent flow, that's essentially what it is, a melting pot of songs where some drown out others. I've stood just behind the S82 lads quite a bit so far, they start a lot of songs that don't get outside there "group". If you think about it it's very democratic, if you can hear more than 1 song sing the one you want, if everyone agrees by singing the same song then it gets loud/popular. It's messy and has its worts but works eventually. Just keep going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S25loyal Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think the voucher code (2 4 1) offer may have had an effect, and perhaps shows there is an audience out there at a particular price point. Yes to be fair my comments (apart from the "how shit must you be" stuff) was more of a response to the annoying negativity from other posters. The stuff about shouting down other chants was more about previous seasons so I take that back. I am right on the edge of the singing section but even from there, myself or others around us have prompted some chants. It's something I have often found fascinating, why sometimes an individual shout will become a chant and yet often it can just fall on deaf ears. I'll bet there is a paper somewhere that someone has done for their dissertation sometime on just that phenomena. Port Said, I am in s25 and have been since fans were allowed back there as a “singing area”, I can honestly say I’ve heard other chants no more than about 10 times. I don’t think it’s people not Joining in, it’s more people aren’t aware of any songs. It’s a bit like myself saying, the away fans are awful you rarely hear them. It’s clear they are singing, I can physically see it, but from where I stand you never hear them, yet according to others they are louder than city fans etc. Edited October 31, 2021 by S25loyal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Pezo said: Booing other parts of the ground is stupid but it's very much part of the type of humour I think - tongue in cheek Absolutely this. Its become part of the ‘pantomime’ to boo the other areas after their ‘bounce around’ If I were the other areas I’d laugh or applaud as you know it’s coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Well it certainly made a change that all the crowd joined in with them, rather than the East End shouting them down with their own chants like kids throwing their toys out of the pram. While we're at it, it pisses me off when they ask other parts of the ground to bounce around, and then boo them no matter how well they respond. ******* "superfans". I think you’re reading a bit too much into this PSR. In the last 32 years I’ve stood on the east end, then went E Block Atyeo, then B Block Dolman, then the far corner of the Williams, then back to the east end when it re opened, then followed it around the Williams, Atyeo and finally the south stand. There are no super fans, nobody shouts down ‘other songs’, people like to just stand and sing and swear and shout. Nobody really takes any notice and for every song somebody starts that gets going, the next one invariably fails and you’d never even know. I’ve started thousands of songs and also looked like a numpty when nobody joined in. I really couldn’t care. Just like when I’ve stood in these areas all my life, there are young’uns, old’uns, men and women, all stood there bound by the shared decision that this is how they wish to experience football. And finally, yes, it’s now become somewhat of a pantomime tradition to boo after the ‘bounce arounds’ probably dating back to when nobody in the Williams did Just go with it, it’s funny, you know it’s going to happen! Edited October 31, 2021 by 054123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 15:25, 054123 said: I don’t go under at halftime. I sit down and read One Team That fanzine has some terrific writers. There has always been a bit of banter, for want of a better word, between the various stands at AG. I remember I was queuing for the train to Cardiff for the LDV Final in ‘03 - the only time I’ve actually been to a match (I’m kidding, honest!) and the bloke in front of me referred to “The T**tyeo Stand.” Charming. And back in the late 90s the band resident at the back of H Block of the Atyeo would occasionally sing “Dolman Stand, **** off home” as a small but steady stream of patrons would sneak off early to avoid the FT congestion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, 054123 said: Absolutely this. Its become part of the ‘pantomime’ to boo the other areas after their ‘bounce around’ If I were the other areas I’d laugh or applaud as you know it’s coming I found it funny when the unenthusiastic participation in the EE (I think it was the Bournemouth game) was about 25% and they booed themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Pezo said: I found it funny when the unenthusiastic participation in the EE (I think it was the Bournemouth game) was about 25% and they booed themselves. Exactly. Its just a bit of nonsense. I used to like it when for the bigger games, most of the b block in the dolman would stand and sing. If I didn’t have the kids I think I would probably go down there for the more tasty games. Although my middle aged back kills me if I sit down for an hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, 054123 said: Exactly. Its just a bit of nonsense. I used to like it when for the bigger games, most of the b block in the dolman would stand and sing. If I didn’t have the kids I think I would probably go down there for the more tasty games. Although my middle aged back kills me if I sit down for an hour Similar but younger, I've been told by the physio that due to having a desk job I sit down way too much and need to stand (and more importantly move around) whenever possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will b11 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I hope we play one step beyond after every win at home as It got the fans going brilliantly yesterday after the game ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, 054123 said: Exactly. Its just a bit of nonsense. I used to like it when for the bigger games, most of the b block in the dolman would stand and sing. If I didn’t have the kids I think I would probably go down there for the more tasty games. Although my middle aged back kills me if I sit down for an hour B block is where the school trips go these days. Most of the familiar faces who sat there haven’t returned post covid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Anyone know what happened at half time with one lad from the singing section being escorted out? Lots of others around the area that didn’t seem happy with the stewards handling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I think the voucher code (2 4 1) offer may have had an effect, and perhaps shows there is an audience out there at a particular price point. Yes to be fair my comments (apart from the "how shit must you be" stuff) was more of a response to the annoying negativity from other posters. The stuff about shouting down other chants was more about previous seasons so I take that back. I am right on the edge of the singing section but even from there, myself or others around us have prompted some chants. It's something I have often found fascinating, why sometimes an individual shout will become a chant and yet often it can just fall on deaf ears. I'll bet there is a paper somewhere that someone has done for their dissertation sometime on just that phenomena. Thing with starting the chants PSR is the timing,you’ve got to feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said: Thing with starting the chants PSR is the timing,you’ve got to feel it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolsch Posted November 1, 2021 Report Share Posted November 1, 2021 Sounded great on robins tv. Hope the lads at the game keep the atmosphere going at home games, it will really help the lads and hopefully we can put a run together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will b11 Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 31/10/2021 at 22:27, OneTeamInBristol said: Anyone know what happened at half time with one lad from the singing section being escorted out? Lots of others around the area that didn’t seem happy with the stewards handling it. I was in there and got told apparently it was because he was standing on the seats during the game , I think the stewards weren’t happy the previous game when one of the seats got snapped and was getting chucked around the stand ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted November 2, 2021 Report Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 31/10/2021 at 21:46, Will b11 said: I hope we play one step beyond after every win at home as It got the fans going brilliantly yesterday after the game ! I love the tune (mis-spent youth) but as Chelsea play it after their home games I feel a bit uneasy about us playing it. Maybe Night Boat to Cairo instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) Obviously not the main talking point, but Gould’s answer on atmosphere was disappointing. Basically - no plans to change anything, atmosphere will improve with results. That’s a given, but would’ve preferred him to be more open to dialogue about solutions to maximise atmosphere. It’s clear our current setup isn’t optimal and probably gives away teams a marginal competitive advantage. Given everything that’s happening I doubt it’s a huge priority of his - but hopefully in the future he can show a bit more openness about it. Edited November 9, 2021 by Phileas Fogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: Obviously not the main talking point, but Gould’s answer on atmosphere was disappointing. Basically - no plans to change anything, atmosphere will improve with results. That’s a given, but would’ve preferred him to be more open to dialogue about solutions to maximise atmosphere. It’s clear our current setup isn’t optimal and probably gives away teams a marginal competitive advantage. Given everything that’s happening I doubt it’s a huge priority of his - but hopefully in the future he can show a bit more openness about it. In fairness I think he was right in what he said in that get the entertainment/results right on the pitch and the atmosphere will not become a discussion point. Could always be better but Barnsley proved how loud we can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Shuffle said: In fairness I think he was right in what he said in that get the entertainment/results right on the pitch and the atmosphere will not become a discussion point. Could always be better but Barnsley proved how loud we can be. True, but I’d have liked it if he seemed open to dialogue about it. It’s ‘low hanging fruit’ and consulting fans is always a good step. Basically saying that results = atmosphere is a bit lazy as that isn’t always the case. The Barnsley game was pretty good in the last 10, but I’ve barely experienced the loud, hostile and passionate AG at all since promotion. Cup games being the exception. I also didn’t like it when he referred to the EastEnd’s existence as ‘the bad old days’. I always felt the club never really welcomed the sort of support that stand attracted, that all but confirmed it for me. Edited November 9, 2021 by Phileas Fogg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 02/11/2021 at 08:33, supercidered said: I love the tune (mis-spent youth) but as Chelsea play it after their home games I feel a bit uneasy about us playing it. Maybe Night Boat to Malago instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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