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Good day fellow Reds.

A third of the season gone and another trip up the M5 with Birmingham City away tonight being the first of two games this week in the Midlands, there is just 22 miles between St Andrew’s and Coventry’s ground. Let’s hope we perform much better than our last visit to the West Midlands.

Here’s what others have said about their visit to St Andrew’s: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g186402-d261534-Reviews-Birmingham_City_Football_Club-Birmingham_West_Midlands_England.html

Almost all of the pubs around St. Andrew’s are strictly home fans only. The exception in the past has been The Cricketers’ Arms (48 Little Green Lane, Birmingham, B9 5AX), which is happy to welcome a mixture of home and away supporters. It is quite a small pub but there is ample outside seating, I know it’s November!.

If you are walking to the ground, there a couple of recommended stopping off points. 

* The Anchor Digbeth (308 Bradford Street, Birmingham B5 6ET) is a renowned real ale venue at the back of Birmingham Coach Station

* The Old Crown (188 High Street, Birmingham, B12 0LD) is situated in Birmingham’s oldest building and has historically welcomed visiting fans

Your best options in the city centre are likely to be:

*The Old  Contemptibles (176 Edmund Street within a short stroll of Corporation Street, Colemore Row and New Street) https://www.nicholsonspubs.co.uk/restaurants/eastandwestmidlands/theoldcontemptiblesedmundstreetbirmingham 

* The Wellington (37 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5SN)

* The Briar Rose (25 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5RE) – which often asks for away colours to be covered up nowadays

* The Sun On The Hill (23 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5QP)

* The Shakespeare Inn (Summer Row, Birmingham, B3 1JJ), right next to New Street station.

The metropolitan area of Birmingham is the second most populated city in England. The club was formed in 1875 as Small Heath Alliance, it was renamed Small Heath in 1888, Birmingham in 1905, and Birmingham City in 1943. Since 2011, they have competed in the Championship. St Andrew’s has been their home ground since 1906. The club's nickname is Blues and their fans are known as Bluenoses.

They have something of a revolving-door in terms of managers! In July 2007, Hong Kong-based businessman Carson Yeung became the biggest single shareholder. Uncertain as to his future Steve Bruce left in mid-season. His successor, Scotland national team manager, Alex McLeish, was unable to stave off relegation, but achieved promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt.

In 2011, they combined a second League Cup defeating favourites Arsenal 2–1 and secured qualification for the Europa League with relegation back to the second tier, after which McLeish resigned to join Aston Villa.

They narrowly failed to reach the knockout rounds of the Europa League and the play-off final. With the club in financial turmoil and under a transfer embargo, manager Chris Houghton left. Under Lee Clark, Birmingham twice retained their divisional status, albeit through a 93rd-minute goal in the last match of 2013–14 season to avoid relegation on goal difference but their continued poor form saw him dismissed in October 2014. Gary Rowett led them to two tenth-place finishes before being controversially dismissed by new owners Trillion Trophy Asia in favour of Gianfranco Zola.

Two wins from 24 matches under Zola left Birmingham needing two wins from the last three games to stay up, which they achieved under the managership of Harry Redknapp who lasted another month, he was replaced by his former assistant Steve Cotterill who lasted five months, he was succeeded by Garry Monk.

Despite budgetary restrictions and a nine-point deduction for breaches of the League's Profitability and Sustainability (P&S) rules, the team finished 17th in 2018–19; however, Monk was sacked in June after conflict with the board. He was succeeded by his assistant, Pep Clotet, initially as caretaker. In the 2019-20 season they once again avoided relegation despite a 14-match winless run at the end of the season and the threat of a further points deduction.

Next out the door was  Aitor Karanka who was replaced in March this year by former Birmingham player Lee Bowyer, who is on a two and half year contract, what are the odds of him staying that long!?

Academy product Jude Bellingham was sold to Borussia Dortmund in the summer for a club-record deal reported to be worth up to £30 million.

This season they have exactly the same record as us won 5, drawn 4 and lost 6 and are currently in 14th spot, last time out they won 2-0 away at Boro.

Based on the last six games we are 20th in the form guide LWLLLW, while they are 16th LLLDWW.

Brum banter

* The FA cup was made in Birmingham.

* They were actually formed by a group of cricketers in the Bordesley Green area of Birmingham, back in 1875. The lads were looking to play competitive football and just two years later, the club moved into its first ground, Muntz Street. The rent was £5-a-year!

* Birmingham City were the first side to sell a player for £1million.  The man in question being Trevor Francis, who is arguably one of the best players in the club’s long history. He scored 133 goals in 328 appearances but in 1970, he moved to Nottingham Forest for £1million.

* In February 2011 the Blues lifted their first major silverware for over 55 years when the overcame Arsenal in the League Cup final. Goals from Nikola Zigic and Obafemi Martins gave Birmingham a place in the modern-day history books but it was a season that ended in disappointment. They were relegated on the last day of the season following a 2-1 defeat at White Hart Lane which meant in two seasons, Birmingham had won major silverware, been relegated, competed in the Europa League and lost a two-legged play-off semi final the season later. Pretty hectic stuff!

* Iconic brands Birds Custard, Cadbury Chocolate, Bournville Drinking Chocolate, HP Source and Typhoo Tea all started in Birmingham.

* Famous fans include: Jasper Carrot - Comedian, Colin Buchanan - Dalziel and Pascoe star, Roy Wood - Xmas-loving frontman of Wizzard, David Harewood - Actor (Homeland), Mike Skinner - Singer from The Streets and Jeff Lynne - ELO legend.

Our head-to-head record isn’t very good we have lost 34, won 18 and drawn 17. Last season we beat them in March 0-3 at their place and they won in December 0-1 at the Gate. It was a home defeat against them which sealed our relegation to League 1 at the end of the 12/13 season: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22075570

They have doubts about Tahith Chong, Kristian Pedersen and Maxime Colin for tonight.

Can I remind everyone about Movember and the opportunity it presents to do your bit to promote men’s health, whatever you grow thank you: https://uk.movember.com

To the traveling faithful have a great night, cheer the boys on - be loud and proud - and stay safe.

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1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

*The Old  Contemptibles (176 Edmund Street within a short stroll of Corporation Street, Colemore Row and New Street)

 

1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

The Briar Rose (25 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5RE) – which often asks for away colours to be covered up nowadays

Two decent locals for when I work in Brum.

We don't really traditionally get much up there do we? I will be happy with a draw & try & get the beginings of an unbeaten run going. 

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1 hour ago, Jerseybean said:

Good day fellow Reds.

A third of the season gone and another trip up the M5 with Birmingham City away tonight being the first of two games this week in the Midlands, there is just 22 miles between St Andrew’s and Coventry’s ground. Let’s hope we perform much better than our last visit to the West Midlands.

Here’s what others have said about their visit to St Andrew’s: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g186402-d261534-Reviews-Birmingham_City_Football_Club-Birmingham_West_Midlands_England.html

Almost all of the pubs around St. Andrew’s are strictly home fans only. The exception in the past has been The Cricketers’ Arms (48 Little Green Lane, Birmingham, B9 5AX), which is happy to welcome a mixture of home and away supporters. It is quite a small pub but there is ample outside seating, I know it’s November!.

If you are walking to the ground, there a couple of recommended stopping off points. 

* The Anchor Digbeth (308 Bradford Street, Birmingham B5 6ET) is a renowned real ale venue at the back of Birmingham Coach Station

* The Old Crown (188 High Street, Birmingham, B12 0LD) is situated in Birmingham’s oldest building and has historically welcomed visiting fans

Your best options in the city centre are likely to be:

*The Old  Contemptibles (176 Edmund Street within a short stroll of Corporation Street, Colemore Row and New Street) https://www.nicholsonspubs.co.uk/restaurants/eastandwestmidlands/theoldcontemptiblesedmundstreetbirmingham 

* The Wellington (37 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5SN)

* The Briar Rose (25 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5RE) – which often asks for away colours to be covered up nowadays

* The Sun On The Hill (23 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5QP)

* The Shakespeare Inn (Summer Row, Birmingham, B3 1JJ), right next to New Street station.

The metropolitan area of Birmingham is the second most populated city in England. The club was formed in 1875 as Small Heath Alliance, it was renamed Small Heath in 1888, Birmingham in 1905, and Birmingham City in 1943. Since 2011, they have competed in the Championship. St Andrew’s has been their home ground since 1906. The club's nickname is Blues and their fans are known as Bluenoses.

They have something of a revolving-door in terms of managers! In July 2007, Hong Kong-based businessman Carson Yeung became the biggest single shareholder. Uncertain as to his future Steve Bruce left in mid-season. His successor, Scotland national team manager, Alex McLeish, was unable to stave off relegation, but achieved promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt.

In 2011, they combined a second League Cup defeating favourites Arsenal 2–1 and secured qualification for the Europa League with relegation back to the second tier, after which McLeish resigned to join Aston Villa.

They narrowly failed to reach the knockout rounds of the Europa League and the play-off final. With the club in financial turmoil and under a transfer embargo, manager Chris Houghton left. Under Lee Clark, Birmingham twice retained their divisional status, albeit through a 93rd-minute goal in the last match of 2013–14 season to avoid relegation on goal difference but their continued poor form saw him dismissed in October 2014. Gary Rowett led them to two tenth-place finishes before being controversially dismissed by new owners Trillion Trophy Asia in favour of Gianfranco Zola.

Two wins from 24 matches under Zola left Birmingham needing two wins from the last three games to stay up, which they achieved under the managership of Harry Redknapp who lasted another month, he was replaced by his former assistant Steve Cotterill who lasted five months, he was succeeded by Garry Monk.

Despite budgetary restrictions and a nine-point deduction for breaches of the League's Profitability and Sustainability (P&S) rules, the team finished 17th in 2018–19; however, Monk was sacked in June after conflict with the board. He was succeeded by his assistant, Pep Clotet, initially as caretaker. In the 2019-20 season they once again avoided relegation despite a 14-match winless run at the end of the season and the threat of a further points deduction.

Next out the door was  Aitor Karanka who was replaced in March this year by former Birmingham player Lee Bowyer, who is on a two and half year contract, what are the odds of him staying that long!?

Academy product Jude Bellingham was sold to Borussia Dortmund in the summer for a club-record deal reported to be worth up to £30 million.

This season they have exactly the same record as us won 5, drawn 4 and lost 6 and are currently in 14th spot, last time out they won 2-0 away at Boro.

Based on the last six games we are 20th in the form guide LWLLLW, while they are 16th LLLDWW.

Brum banter

* The FA cup was made in Birmingham.

* They were actually formed by a group of cricketers in the Bordesley Green area of Birmingham, back in 1875. The lads were looking to play competitive football and just two years later, the club moved into its first ground, Muntz Street. The rent was £5-a-year!

* Birmingham City were the first side to sell a player for £1million.  The man in question being Trevor Francis, who is arguably one of the best players in the club’s long history. He scored 133 goals in 328 appearances but in 1970, he moved to Nottingham Forest for £1million.

* In February 2011 the Blues lifted their first major silverware for over 55 years when the overcame Arsenal in the League Cup final. Goals from Nikola Zigic and Obafemi Martins gave Birmingham a place in the modern-day history books but it was a season that ended in disappointment. They were relegated on the last day of the season following a 2-1 defeat at White Hart Lane which meant in two seasons, Birmingham had won major silverware, been relegated, competed in the Europa League and lost a two-legged play-off semi final the season later. Pretty hectic stuff!

* Iconic brands Birds Custard, Cadbury Chocolate, Bournville Drinking Chocolate, HP Source and Typhoo Tea all started in Birmingham.

* Famous fans include: Jasper Carrot - Comedian, Colin Buchanan - Dalziel and Pascoe star, Roy Wood - Xmas-loving frontman of Wizzard, David Harewood - Actor (Homeland), Mike Skinner - Singer from The Streets and Jeff Lynne - ELO legend.

Our head-to-head record isn’t very good we have lost 34, won 18 and drawn 17. Last season we beat them in March 0-3 at their place and they won in December 0-1 at the Gate. It was a home defeat against them which sealed our relegation to League 1 at the end of the 12/13 season: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22075570

They have doubts about Tahith Chong, Kristian Pedersen and Maxime Colin for tonight.

Can I remind everyone about Movember and the opportunity it presents to do your bit to promote men’s health, whatever you grow thank you: https://uk.movember.com

To the traveling faithful have a great night, cheer the boys on - be loud and proud - and stay safe.

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Went to QPR v Birmingham at end of September and Birmingham looked very average.

My worry is that we just give the ball away cheaply - Martin won't get a sniff out of their back line if we resort to punting it hoping for a flick on.

Kiss of death now..... but goals for sure in this one. Can't see either team keeping a clean sheet. Going for a 2-2 draw, with City throwing the lead away twice. 

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4 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Good day fellow Reds.

A third of the season gone and another trip up the M5 with Birmingham City away tonight being the first of two games this week in the Midlands, there is just 22 miles between St Andrew’s and Coventry’s ground. Let’s hope we perform much better than our last visit to the West Midlands.

Here’s what others have said about their visit to St Andrew’s: https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g186402-d261534-Reviews-Birmingham_City_Football_Club-Birmingham_West_Midlands_England.html

Almost all of the pubs around St. Andrew’s are strictly home fans only. The exception in the past has been The Cricketers’ Arms (48 Little Green Lane, Birmingham, B9 5AX), which is happy to welcome a mixture of home and away supporters. It is quite a small pub but there is ample outside seating, I know it’s November!.

If you are walking to the ground, there a couple of recommended stopping off points. 

* The Anchor Digbeth (308 Bradford Street, Birmingham B5 6ET) is a renowned real ale venue at the back of Birmingham Coach Station

* The Old Crown (188 High Street, Birmingham, B12 0LD) is situated in Birmingham’s oldest building and has historically welcomed visiting fans

Your best options in the city centre are likely to be:

*The Old  Contemptibles (176 Edmund Street within a short stroll of Corporation Street, Colemore Row and New Street) https://www.nicholsonspubs.co.uk/restaurants/eastandwestmidlands/theoldcontemptiblesedmundstreetbirmingham 

* The Wellington (37 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5SN)

* The Briar Rose (25 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5RE) – which often asks for away colours to be covered up nowadays

* The Sun On The Hill (23 Bennetts Hill, Birmingham B2 5QP)

* The Shakespeare Inn (Summer Row, Birmingham, B3 1JJ), right next to New Street station.

The metropolitan area of Birmingham is the second most populated city in England. The club was formed in 1875 as Small Heath Alliance, it was renamed Small Heath in 1888, Birmingham in 1905, and Birmingham City in 1943. Since 2011, they have competed in the Championship. St Andrew’s has been their home ground since 1906. The club's nickname is Blues and their fans are known as Bluenoses.

They have something of a revolving-door in terms of managers! In July 2007, Hong Kong-based businessman Carson Yeung became the biggest single shareholder. Uncertain as to his future Steve Bruce left in mid-season. His successor, Scotland national team manager, Alex McLeish, was unable to stave off relegation, but achieved promotion back to the Premier League at the first attempt.

In 2011, they combined a second League Cup defeating favourites Arsenal 2–1 and secured qualification for the Europa League with relegation back to the second tier, after which McLeish resigned to join Aston Villa.

They narrowly failed to reach the knockout rounds of the Europa League and the play-off final. With the club in financial turmoil and under a transfer embargo, manager Chris Houghton left. Under Lee Clark, Birmingham twice retained their divisional status, albeit through a 93rd-minute goal in the last match of 2013–14 season to avoid relegation on goal difference but their continued poor form saw him dismissed in October 2014. Gary Rowett led them to two tenth-place finishes before being controversially dismissed by new owners Trillion Trophy Asia in favour of Gianfranco Zola.

Two wins from 24 matches under Zola left Birmingham needing two wins from the last three games to stay up, which they achieved under the managership of Harry Redknapp who lasted another month, he was replaced by his former assistant Steve Cotterill who lasted five months, he was succeeded by Garry Monk.

Despite budgetary restrictions and a nine-point deduction for breaches of the League's Profitability and Sustainability (P&S) rules, the team finished 17th in 2018–19; however, Monk was sacked in June after conflict with the board. He was succeeded by his assistant, Pep Clotet, initially as caretaker. In the 2019-20 season they once again avoided relegation despite a 14-match winless run at the end of the season and the threat of a further points deduction.

Next out the door was  Aitor Karanka who was replaced in March this year by former Birmingham player Lee Bowyer, who is on a two and half year contract, what are the odds of him staying that long!?

Academy product Jude Bellingham was sold to Borussia Dortmund in the summer for a club-record deal reported to be worth up to £30 million.

This season they have exactly the same record as us won 5, drawn 4 and lost 6 and are currently in 14th spot, last time out they won 2-0 away at Boro.

Based on the last six games we are 20th in the form guide LWLLLW, while they are 16th LLLDWW.

Brum banter

* The FA cup was made in Birmingham.

* They were actually formed by a group of cricketers in the Bordesley Green area of Birmingham, back in 1875. The lads were looking to play competitive football and just two years later, the club moved into its first ground, Muntz Street. The rent was £5-a-year!

* Birmingham City were the first side to sell a player for £1million.  The man in question being Trevor Francis, who is arguably one of the best players in the club’s long history. He scored 133 goals in 328 appearances but in 1970, he moved to Nottingham Forest for £1million.

* In February 2011 the Blues lifted their first major silverware for over 55 years when the overcame Arsenal in the League Cup final. Goals from Nikola Zigic and Obafemi Martins gave Birmingham a place in the modern-day history books but it was a season that ended in disappointment. They were relegated on the last day of the season following a 2-1 defeat at White Hart Lane which meant in two seasons, Birmingham had won major silverware, been relegated, competed in the Europa League and lost a two-legged play-off semi final the season later. Pretty hectic stuff!

* Iconic brands Birds Custard, Cadbury Chocolate, Bournville Drinking Chocolate, HP Source and Typhoo Tea all started in Birmingham.

* Famous fans include: Jasper Carrot - Comedian, Colin Buchanan - Dalziel and Pascoe star, Roy Wood - Xmas-loving frontman of Wizzard, David Harewood - Actor (Homeland), Mike Skinner - Singer from The Streets and Jeff Lynne - ELO legend.

Our head-to-head record isn’t very good we have lost 34, won 18 and drawn 17. Last season we beat them in March 0-3 at their place and they won in December 0-1 at the Gate. It was a home defeat against them which sealed our relegation to League 1 at the end of the 12/13 season: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22075570

They have doubts about Tahith Chong, Kristian Pedersen and Maxime Colin for tonight.

Can I remind everyone about Movember and the opportunity it presents to do your bit to promote men’s health, whatever you grow thank you: https://uk.movember.com

To the traveling faithful have a great night, cheer the boys on - be loud and proud - and stay safe.

87B60221-F488-406A-B98B-BD641861C679.jpeg

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Birmingham City:

The home of the kipper tie with 2 sugars.

City 2 v Brum 0

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Ah the BCFC derby.

Don't have much hope tonight if I am honest. a win is possible, but I'd hesitate to say it is likely.

I think we're going to see a game similar to Forest at home, although probably a fair bit uglier. This is two fairly closely matched teams, who both like a bit of long ball stuff where mistakes are key and we end in a draw or a low scoring win for either side. Bentley will likely be busier than Sarkic, and our left side is going to be tested...potentially to breaking point. I don't think we are expecting any changes or returns to fitness from Saturday, so an unnamed XI is distinctly possible, even if we should surely be resting Martin.

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21 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Ah the BCFC derby.

Don't have much hope tonight if I am honest. a win is possible, but I'd hesitate to say it is likely.

I think we're going to see a game similar to Forest at home, although probably a fair bit uglier. This is two fairly closely matched teams, who both like a bit of long ball stuff where mistakes are key and we end in a draw or a low scoring win for either side. Bentley will likely be busier than Sarkic, and our left side is going to be tested...potentially to breaking point. I don't think we are expecting any changes or returns to fitness from Saturday, so an unnamed XI is distinctly possible, even if we should surely be resting Martin.

Tonight might have conceivably been another Cardiff Back 4 with Baker at LB, but I’d be surprised if he’s met enough of the protocol stages to be back tonight.  Hoping Pring fit, sounds like Fleming was doing his best Monty Python Knights of Kn - it’s just a kick, get on with it Cam.

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33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Tonight might have conceivably been another Cardiff Back 4 with Baker at LB, but I’d be surprised if he’s met enough of the protocol stages to be back tonight.  Hoping Pring fit, sounds like Fleming was doing his best Monty Python Knights of Kn - it’s just a kick, get on with it Cam.

Looks like Chong and Pedersen are both still out for Brum so I think McGree is expected to start again, suggesting that Bowyer will stick with the line up and formation he used against Boro. I suspect therefore that Pearson might go with 3 at the back to counter the triumvirate of McGree, Deeney and Hogan. Our full backs v their fullbacks and then who knows what happens in the midfield - I suspect both teams might just try and bypass that mess with long balls.

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