Birmingham City away match day thread

[cityexile]

Getting dicked by WBA, not great, but it is what it is.

Getting dicked by a very average B’ham…most disappointing result of the season.

Thought we were well in it at half time. Time and time again however the other team finds it far to easy to create chances against us. If we cannot defend well we are dead in the water. Difficult to know what to say really. 

[steviestevieneville]

Just now, Banjo Red said:

If we get rid of Pearson who the hell can coach these bunch of cowards.

No one. Lansdown has to bite the bullet & give him money to spend in January . This is his mess 

[Red-Robbo]

What concerns me is that we seem worse than we were at the start of the season - and we weren't very good then. 

[bexhill reds]

1 minute ago, Ivorguy said:

Sad to say but we are short of decent Championship players.  Some are at this level, but too few, some are making it to this level, some are falling off from this level, and some have never reach or will reach it.

Feel sorry for Nige.  All he can do is try and keep us up until he can sign new recruits

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some creative accountancy is required, if not in Jan but next summer to allow Pearson to get rid of the shite and spend some sensible money on key positions.
 

Brum are just a physical long ball team but we made it look so easy for them… their second from the long ball straight down middle of the pitch is an absolute disgrace to concede at this level. And I still don’t get why we are insistent on knocking high balls to Martin against 3 tall and muscular centre-halves, that has to be a game plan thing and not just an ineffective performance.

[ExiledAjax]

2 minutes ago, Cornwall red said:

Back to the High Performance Centre to try again

Maybe the problem is that all of our High Performances happen at the High Performance Centre. Rename AG "The Really High Performance Centre" and we'll be sorted.

[Ska Junkie]

1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

No one. Lansdown has to bite the bullet & give him money to spend in January . This is his mess 

Can he though? @Davefevs 

[Bodiesaffer]

2 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

No.

We got no choice son, NP going nowhere.  Or stay at home. 

[exAtyeoMax]

What's going on with the coaching? Is there a plan?

[TomThumb84]

3 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said:

Been fun again lads. 2 and a half more years

 

See that you are still the worst, and most try-hard, wind-up irritant on here.

[robin_unreliant]

5 minutes ago, keflav said:

I have backed Pearson so far, but this could be a turning point for me it's just not working. We have no creativity, no goal threat and defend like rank amateurs.

Bakinson & vyner should no where near the first team there an absolute liability, no idea what Pearson see it them....

Tbf some people pointed out Nige has only done well when he had Shakespeare coaching. I'm beginning to worry that's true and he can't pull this off on his own.

[And Its Smith]

Worryingly the longer Pearson coaches them the worse they seem!

[sludge]

1 minute ago, bexhill reds said:

Some creative accountancy is required, if not in Jan but next summer to allow Pearson to get rid of the shite and spend some sensible money on key positions.
 

Brum are just a physical long ball team but we made it look so easy for them… their second from the long ball straight down middle of the pitch is an absolute disgrace to concede at this level. And I still don’t get why we are insistent on knocking high balls to Martin against 3 tall and muscular centre-halves, that has to be a game plan thing and not just an ineffective performance.

Next summer will be too late!!

[Red-Robbo]

2 minutes ago, Slack Bladder said:

Well if we can't afford any passengers in this team, there ain't gonna be any fecker on the bus next week.

 

We're one of those feckers that drives past with "Sorry: Not In Service" on the front.

[Bedred31]

Clearly NP is drifting into the danger zone. I’m a supporter and I’m not going to slag him off. But I’m losing the desire to try and defend him by pointing out the other, deeply entrenched reasons for our decline. It may well be that tired indifference speaks louder than people yelling for him to be sacked. 

[YorksRed]

I’m from the more happy clappy side of the fan base probably but I’m so bored of watching City.  It’s not just the results, it’s the poor style of play and lack of ability to keep hold of the ball, plus no creativity, pace, skill or general excitement.  

I feel sorry for you lot who have season tickets and see a lot more of it. 

[bexhill reds]

Just now, TomThumb84 said:

See that you are still the worst, and most try-hard, wind-up irritant on here.

Don’t bite, just ignore…

[The Original OTIB]

1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said:

What's going on with the coaching? Is there a plan?

Evidently not.

[Dan Robin]

Really bad second half: defence became fragile, not enough attacking threat, James injured...so I can't find any positives.

Disappointed, because the first half was even and I thought we could have gained a point, doing a little more in the second half. 

[Waffleflap]

I agree with Ian. He's spot on tonight 

[samo II]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

What concerns me is that we seem worse than we were at the start of the season - and we weren't very good then. 

Agree.

I can take losing when I see the direction we’re trying to take.

But we just look like we’re going game-to-game with no direction or plan.

We were as bad as any football team I’ve seen play this year and possibly last tonight; that is very worrying.

[Jeez]

4 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

If we get rid of Pearson who the hell can coach these bunch of cowards.

Ryan Lowe

[CotswoldRed]

2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Maybe the problem is that all of our High Performances happen at the High Performance Centre. Rename AG "The Really High Performance Centre" and we'll be sorted.

High Performance Centre

Its up there with "Levelling up". 

[Bodiesaffer]

2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

No one. Lansdown has to bite the bullet & give him money to spend in January . This is his mess 

We need a Roy Keene, and a Bully up top..

[Banjo Red]

3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

No one. Lansdown has to bite the bullet & give him money to spend in January . This is his mess 

Agreed

[IAmNick]

2 minutes ago, samo II said:

I’m not sure where I said “everyone is part of the problem” but I did say the likes of Kalas are - he might not want to be a leader here, but that alone tells you what type of person he is. I’m sure he’s nice enough, but he’s not what we need.

Add the likes of Wells and Martin to that - this feels like the squad of aging, listless, directionless ‘pros’ that Pulis assembled; no guts, no dynamism.

Sometimes you need to send a message - people will remember the end stage of GJ’s time, but his willingness to change the culture at the start by dropping players and pushing for a new direction, regardless of results is what built the bedrock of his success.

I’m not clear what NP is doing playing these aging, listless pros who offer us nothing, and yet still lose us games terribly; it’s clearly not changing anything, so for me the time for just sitting on our hands is done - start doing the hard things to get where we need to long term, as we’re getting nothing from the alternative.

Partially agree with you, but the issue is looking at our bench today what else would you have done? In the Kalas example, Vyner and Atkinson in a back two? Yikes.

Without Wells or Martin up front it'd be kids from the U23s pretty much.

I totally agree we need an overhaul (although we might disagree on who should survive it), and I'm sure it's coming, but it has to be done in stages. We have two of our back line who have barely played above L2 starting every game currently. Our best player in the middle is 20, alongside a new signing from the summer. Up front are the 2 you've mentioned. It's chaos.

Maybe you're right and we could just throw caution to the wind, but I have no idea what that'd do to the squad harmony or dressing room - or the development of the kids we'd be chucking in there. You can't just drop half the squad 1/3 of the way into the season. Rock and a hard place for me, unfortunately!

It's not pretty though, is it. As you said, we need to get to the long term, but imo we can't totally destroy everything in one go to get there.

[old_eastender]

1 minute ago, Red Alert said:

Ryan Lowe

Good shout

[exAtyeoMax]

shambles  

[bexhill reds]

2 minutes ago, sludge said:

Next summer will be too late!!

Perhaps but there are rarely good players to be bought in Jan without parting with silly money.

[Major Isewater]

Just some random thoughts .

I actually thought we had played quite well up until their second goal which really sealed the points.

We are sadly lacking up front.

I have noticed that Wells isn’t hungry enough to force a goal . Tonight and against Barnsley he wasn’t aggressive enough to  get to chances that he could have tucked away. He is powder puff and never outmuscles the opponents.

We never looked like scoring tonight.

Bakinson played quite well I thought but switched off at certain moments.

 I know nothing about football but feel we should be doing better. 

[ciderwithtommy]

No width at all, nothing up front. We are so easy to play against its untrue. Not one player in the whole squad who can beat a man on the outside, truly appalling squad balance that makes us easy pray for any team with half a plan. 6 players short minimum, take 20th place but then what?