Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Reading accept points deduction with possibility of more added on - Fan Banter Will help our cause when confirmed. Edited November 3, 2021 by VT05763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Reading accept points deduction with possibility of more added on - Fan Banter Will help our cause. Yeah I'll take that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Reading accept points deduction with possibility of more added on - Fan Banter Will help our cause when confirmed. Yes, we could be relegated next season, not this. One Step Beyond! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 3, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 How bad is it that we are relying on others having points deducted now !! Though it will be interesting to see how accurate this story turns out to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, phantom said: How bad is it that we are relying on others having points deducted now !! Though it will be interesting to see how accurate this story turns out to be We're not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, phantom said: How bad is it that we are relying on others having points deducted now !! Though it will be interesting to see how accurate this story turns out to be We aren't. We're on the same points as reading already, 10 points clear of Hull in the relegation zone and even without their deduction Derby would be below us. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted November 3, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Northern Red said: We're not. 7 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: We aren't. We're on the same points as reading already, 10 points clear of Hull in the relegation zone and even without their deduction Derby would be below us. yet ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Worth remembering that Derby could yet be deducted further points, depending on the outcome of their appeal against the original 12 point deduction Derby set for additional nine-point deduction – ending hopes of Championship survival (telegraph.co.uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Every little helps. Also, it's good to see a club accept their punishment rather than file frivolous appeals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, phantom said: yet ..... The "yet" is irrelevant. We could quite realistically lose our next 5 without going into the relegation zone, that's how big a 10 point gap is when you're at the lower end of the table. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Great news only another 21 to go. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) This is vindication if or when it happens for those clubs who act correctly. Such as ours. That said, I'd hope that we would be looking at surviving or even hitting lower midtable this season irrespective of failings of others. All the same, there is no point in rules and regulations with attached punishment if not upheld and enforced. It is as @ExiledAjax said good to see a club accepting that they have screwed up seemingly but at the same time, their position could have forced their hand somewhat. 10 players out injured, defeats on the bounce and seemingly a wide range of key players expiring in the summer. Perhaps accepting now would enable them to get a couple of frees and loans in within some limits of course and give them a bit more freedom in terms of contract renewal, as opposed to risking total disaster next summer. Swift eg is out of contract, and no way would he renew on £8.5k per week! Chipped in 60% of their goals and assists I believe. In these scenarios the EFL can sit tight and in a sense say "You need it more than us". Who blinks first kinda thing. Edited November 3, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Reading accept points deduction with possibility of more added on - Fan Banter Will help our cause when confirmed. EIEIEIO, up the football league we go….to 17th. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 51 minutes ago, phantom said: How bad is it that we are relying on others having points deducted now !! Though it will be interesting to see how accurate this story turns out to be Of course you might argue (I definitely would) that if we broke ffp we might be doing better than 18th. So I don’t see it as relying I see it as “they cheated, it’s actually impacted us….so f##k ‘em”. When I see clubs like Wycombe who got relegated purely on time taken to get a penalty imposed, I don’t ever see it as per your bold sentence. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Decent. A couple of wins and we could create a clear bit of daylight between ourselves and the relegation zone. Can’t see where the next couple of wins will come from mind you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Anyone else broke the rules. We could probably do with one more team having points deducted Better still if 23 other clubs have done so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Maybe EFL could allocate some additional points to our meagre total, just because we have been so compliant. Edited November 3, 2021 by Bazooka Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Maybe EFL could allocate some additional points to our meagre total, just because we have been so compliant. It’s interesting that in the salary cap proposals that the financial penalties incurred by non-compliant clubs would be shared back out to those clubs that were compliant. Good idea imho. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s interesting that in the salary cap proposals that the financial penalties incurred by non-compliant clubs would be shared back out to those clubs that were compliant. Good idea imho. What does "imho" mean, Dave? 20 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s interesting that in the salary cap proposals that the financial penalties incurred by non-compliant clubs would be shared back out to those clubs that were compliant. Good idea imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Predicted they’d finish just outside bottom 3 as could see this coming. Good news that clubs are being punished 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, jayjay said: What does "imho" mean, Dave? In my humble / honest opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 Its a bit shit tbh, they need to be punished, but what punishment is it to a club who are 17th and the points deduction won't put them in the relegation zone. 'Oh well onto next season after we see out this one' with the same squad. Really their 3 year period losses allowance should be made smaller imo. From £39m to say £30m (or less for more serious breaches), reduce their budget by almost a 1/10 per season and see what they have to do with their squad to meet new amount. Having to sell players/work with a smaller budget would be much tougher for teams, further breach leads to more significant punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 I think the points deduction is far too complicated. Any club that has breached the FFP rules should be handed a far simpler yet harsher penalty. Namely: "your final league position will be below Bristol City" Just need to find one more naughty club 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, phantom said: How bad is it that we are relying on others having points deducted now !! Though it will be interesting to see how accurate this story turns out to be It's just a matter of pragmitism........we are a pretty dire football team at the moment....... who have to take any crumb of help we can get....Ha! Edited November 3, 2021 by maxjak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, VT05763 said: Reading accept points deduction with possibility of more added on - Fan Banter Will help our cause when confirmed. It’ll need to be far more than 9 points to help our cause. 1 hour ago, Frenchay Red said: I think the points deduction is far too complicated. Any club that has breached the FFP rules should be handed a far simpler yet harsher penalty. Namely: "your final league position will be below Bristol City" Just need to find one more naughty club I vote for Cardiff. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: It’ll need to be far more than 9 points to help our cause. Agreed. And I'm not convinced Derby won't overhaul us either, unless they get a further points penalty. I certainly can't see us beating them where it really counts - out on the pitch. Unless January brings a miracle, we're in a scrap with Barnsley, Hull, Peterborough and Preston. Which leaves very little margin for error and I don't like those odds one bit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Lrrr said: Its a bit shit tbh, they need to be punished, but what punishment is it to a club who are 17th and the points deduction won't put them in the relegation zone. 'Oh well onto next season after we see out this one' with the same squad. Really their 3 year period losses allowance should be made smaller imo. From £39m to say £30m (or less for more serious breaches), reduce their budget by almost a 1/10 per season and see what they have to do with their squad to meet new amount. Having to sell players/work with a smaller budget would be much tougher for teams, further breach leads to more significant punishment. I think their situation is a bit more complex in the present to the future- they will have to be under a business plan of some kind I would suspect and 19 > 10 drops them into a relegation scrap potentially in the here and now- timing can be everything. Psychologically this could be a blow for them too. They may have to make further cutbacks or sales for next season in addition to the deduction, the final agreement/imposed arrangements will be interesting to see. The same squad? Questionable. Quite possible that the expectations will be to work towards- by which I mean hit or do better than- a £13m FFP loss this and next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: EIEIEIO, up the football league we go….to 17th. This reminds me of Forest Green, who a few years ago were saved from relegation from the Conference a handful of times, because their rivals went into administration. As the Fonz would say, happy days!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Agreed. And I'm not convinced Derby won't overhaul us either, unless they get a further points penalty. I certainly can't see us beating them where it really counts - out on the pitch. Unless January brings a miracle, we're in a scrap with Barnsley, Hull, Peterborough and Preston. Which leaves very little margin for error and I don't like those odds one bit. We've got Derby at home on Dec 4th so that'll be a 6-pointer! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted November 3, 2021 Report Share Posted November 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, mozo said: We've got Derby at home on Dec 4th so that'll be a 6-pointer! Nah, they'll only get 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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