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5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Let's just hope you don't get long covid and at the same time people take to the forum to speculate about you. Of course something isn't right - what is so complicated about that?

What?

I don’t think anyones done anything wrong. By the sounds of it there is a very good chance Nige might not continue due to health grounds. Richard Gould has done what he can to answer questions without saying this has been discussed .

Youll have to help me out here. 

 

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Just now, Johnny Musicworks said:

I guess that it’s possible that Nige has offered to resign (sparking the rumours) but it has not been accepted and Gould has now had to front up whilst the Lansdowns decide on temporary measures.

Not a completely unlikely situation especially given those strange answers by Gould. Would explain the categorical ‘no’ re: Shakespeare.

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1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

It isn't my job to do the software development,  but if a critical member of my team falls ill and it jeopardises a project, it IS my job to find a work around.

The club seems to be simply crossing their fingers and hoping NP is back soon. 

so what do you want gould to do? interfere in first team affairs like Mark Ashton?

Pick the team?

take training?

or leave the assistant manager to step up and cover the managers role while the manager is off sick

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Surprised with Nige out for an unspecified time we’re not bringing in someone to help with the load. But I think it’s the right call to keep Nige on and to wait until he’s ready (now I’ve calmed down post Saturday). Unless we continue to plummet and he’s still unwell, not sure what we do then. Need to get behind Fleming and hope Nige is back and ready for our favourable run of fixtures starting in a few weeks time. This is going to be a tough season so the club are going to need us. We’re far from relegated yet ladies and gents. COYR

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3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

See my last comment.  

There is a problem. What are the club going to do about it?

Long Covid symptoms can incapacitate people for many months. I know someone who has been off work since January with it. Had to close his carpentry business. 

If not months then for years. I was diagnosed with similar long term symptoms in 1986 so I wish him the very best of luck. He'll have to "listen" to his own body rather than the people around him. 

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1 minute ago, Johnny Musicworks said:

I guess that it’s possible that Nige has offered to resign (sparking the rumours) but it has not been accepted and Gould has now had to front up whilst the Lansdowns decide on temporary measures.

 

I really hope someone is thinking about temporary measures!

Not so long ago we had an a manager, an assistant and two coaches. 

Now we effectively only have one of those men - and the team is all over the shop.

It calls for action .

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1 minute ago, BCFCGav said:

Surprised with Nige out for an unspecified time we’re not bringing in someone to help with the load. But I think it’s the right call to keep Nige on and to wait until he’s ready (now I’ve calmed down post Saturday). Unless we continue to plummet and he’s still unwell, not sure what we do then. Need to get behind Fleming and hope Nige is back and ready for our favourable run of fixtures starting in a few weeks time. This is going to be a tough season so the club are going to need us. We’re far from relegated yet ladies and gents. COYR

But at the moment Fleming is on his Jack Jones. He needs some help tbf.

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Just now, chinapig said:

So we may now face months where the entire show will be run by a recently appointed assistant manager and a temporarily promoted u23 coach? That should stop the rot then.

It's not insurmountable....................until you realise this is Bristol City ownership and boardroom management we are talking about.

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1 minute ago, BCFCGav said:

Surprised with Nige out for an unspecified time we’re not bringing in someone to help with the load. But I think it’s the right call to keep Nige on and to wait until he’s ready (now I’ve calmed down post Saturday). Unless we continue to plummet and he’s still unwell, not sure what we do then. Need to get behind Fleming and hope Nige is back and ready for our favourable run of fixtures starting in a few weeks time. This is going to be a tough season so the club are going to need us. We’re far from relegated yet ladies and gents. COYR

Thay have to keep Nige on they cant sack someone off sick 

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2 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

so what do you want gould to do? interfere in first team affairs like Mark Ashton?

Pick the team?

take training?

or leave the assistant manager to step up and cover the managers role while the manager is off sick

No. But find someone who bloody can.

Unless your idea is to let Fleming continue on his todd indefinitely. 

That option doesn't seem to be working, does it?

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3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

No. But find someone who bloody can.

Unless your idea is to let Fleming continue on his todd indefinitely. 

That option doesn't seem to be working, does it?

I’d be getting Shakespeare in ASAP. If we want Nigel back he’s his true right hand man and knows the score 

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16 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Do you concede though that the answers are unconvincing?

 

What are you not convinced about ? That nige is ill ? That neither he nor the club know when he will recover ? 

1 minute ago, TomF said:

I’d be getting Shakespeare in ASAP. If we want Nigel back he’s his true right hand man and knows the score 

100 percent. Best signing we could make right now . 

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My take on it is that Nige has been ill for longer than admitted, and may have taken on too much by taking job on. Its now coming to a head as Nige cannot do what he was employed to do. Nige (proud man) doesn't want to walk and bcfc doesn't want him to go. However, both are thinking about what is best for Nige and the club and, it's obvious, the guys health comes first and we cannot dither about with the team in free fall. I'm sure both will come to the same conclusion if not already done so. It's just a matter of when and how.

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Couple of quick points:

- One word I do associate heavily with Pearson is integrity. I can quite believe he’d offer to resign if he thought it was the best thing for the club bearing in mind the situation.

- That being said, I don’t think, as most don’t, that having NP out for an indeterminate term and no interim is tenable. As an organisation, Bristol Sport have been here before - Matt Beard taking over from Tanya Oxtoby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with short term help, and it’s best for all parties

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2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Let's just hope you don't get long covid and at the same time people take to the forum to speculate about you. Of course something isn't right - what is so complicated about that?

Why are you deliberately misinterpreting what people are saying?

Everyone wishes Pearson the best. Everyone agrees that whatever does or doesn’t happen Pearson’s health is the most important thing. Absolutely, people shouldn’t speculate on his health, that’s inappropriate.

When someone says ‘something isn’t right’ they clearly understand the man is unwell and, I would hope and assume, wish him well. The point is there’s a difference between the fumbling uncertainty Gould just provided (and I’m not trying to criticise him in that respect) and him saying ‘We’ve spoken to Nigel, obviously he’s unwell at present, we take it as it comes of course but he’s clearly expressed his desire to return ASAP’.

Pointing out that Gould’s responses were unconvincing shouldn’t be met with ‘Oh what so you don’t give a shit that he’s ill!?’

What kind of nonsense is that!?

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Just now, billywedlock said:

What are you not convinced about ? That nige is ill ? That neither he nor the club know when he will recover ? 

I’m not convinced that Nige comes back, I’m not convinced that the club haven’t had those discussions with him.

I personally inferred from those answers that the club don’t know if Nige wants to come back. 

I have been a big Nige advocate and I was hoping that Richard was going to say that obviously Nige is sadly unwell but we’ve talked to him and he can’t wait to get bet to full fitness and come back.

 

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4 minutes ago, Cornacix the Druid said:

My take on it is that Nige has been ill for longer than admitted, and may have taken on too much by taking job on. Its now coming to a head as Nige cannot do what he was employed to do. Nige (proud man) doesn't want to walk and bcfc doesn't want him to go. However, both are thinking about what is best for Nige and the club and, it's obvious, the guys health comes first and we cannot dither about with the team in free fall. I'm sure both will come to the same conclusion if not already done so. It's just a matter of when and how.

Completely agree. 

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12 minutes ago, TomF said:

I’d be getting Shakespeare in ASAP. If we want Nigel back he’s his true right hand man and knows the score 

No-one can be sure when - or even if - Pearson will be back at work. Everything's up in the air.

On that basis, I'm not sure why Shakespeare would want to come here, at least until there's much more clarity about Pearson's situation 

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6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

That's the key for me. Pearson's situation will take as long as it needs to take but we can't completely throw the towel in. Someone in a leadership position at the club needs to show a bit of leadership. If it's Curtis Fleming, fine, if it's Colin on a three month contract then so be it BUT something needs to be thought out.

That’s my concern, I just don’t have a lot of faith in those taking up the temporary reins. Just guessing but it might be that NP has had less involvement that we previously understood. If he has long Covid then it has been for a while. So were those assisting him having more of an influence, and the results down to them? Bit worrying if that is what we limping on with.

As we all know the trouble with Covid is that if affects individuals so differently, we have no idea about the time scales of long Covid. Harsh, but it has to be thought about is the fact that we cannot carry on, possibly get relegated and then NP decides he needs to leave. 

I don’t think either party can afford to let things drift. I got a feeling NP will be given a little time, maybe a month or so and then he will be paid off due to his health. That way he can leave with dignity, whereas at the moment taking his heath out of the equation that doesn’t look possible.

The next few weeks will be a turning point, one way or the other for all.

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26 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Very unconvinced by that. That’s my first time hearing Gould and length and being truthful I felt it was a poor interview - not just on the Pearson situation. 

Lots of filler on needing to ‘work hard’ and how we have ‘good players’. Had to really press him to get firm answers on Massengo etc. Excuses, which aren’t necessarily untrue, about competing with PP clubs. Didn’t seem to understand coaches roles either and a predictable safe answer about solutions to improving the atmosphere. 

I’m sure he’s a very nice guy, and I appreciate it’s a tricky situation, but I felt he really sounds like a Lansdown man. Decent, polite and won’t really rock the boat. That as a first impression hasn’t impressed me and I’m not really sure it’s what the club needs. 

Full credit to him for coming on though, and hopefully my first impression is wrong. Credit to Geoff for pressing him too. He asked the questions the fans wanted to hear.

What do you want him to say in regards to the football questions ? He’s not a football man , he’s a businessman unlike the last fraud . It’s not his job to answer questions on tactics etc. 

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