The dastardly red Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said: All of those plastic fans who started to support Man Utd in the 90s are going to have few highlights in the future. They'll be fine, they've switched to Liverpool by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 They need a manager who's strong enough to tell Ferguson to stop meddling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Leveller said: That’s a bit of an odd historical perspective, perhaps based on your age? Were you around in the 1960s? Granted they were not a glamour club before Busby in the 1950s, but the Busby Babes era, the Munich air crash, the Best/Charlton/Law combo, the first European Cup win in 1968 meant they were THE glamour club well before Liverpool’s emergence in the 1970s. So the Ferguson era was a re-emergence from a period in the doldrums, and I’m sure they had plenty of glory seeking fans nationwide, well before the Beckham/Giggs/ Scholes etc team came along. There were football and gloryhunters before the Premier League. Yes, probably an age perspective. I view that 60s era through the black and white filter as being an age of Stanley Matthews, Blackpool, Burnley, Bert Troutmann and the heavy leather ball with laces. I'm not trying to diminish it but rather don't think that it has much connection with modern day football barring families who have supported the same club for generations and pass on the memories. City's greatest glory days were under Harry Thickett with IIRC losing an FA cup final 1-0 and coming third in the league; though that was all before the Great War. My clock started with seeing (on the telly) Alan Dicks and the team on the open topped bus celebrating promotion. This was probably also my first awareness that there was more to football than kicking a ball around the back garden and that there was a big team in Bristol. I would have known about Rovers before City as we used to go to Eastville market and I knew that a team called Rovers played football at the adjoining ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Shame. He was doing a good job there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 What a shame Dean Saunders for Man U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, kiwicolin said: Shame. He was doing a good job there. Ready made replacement for Joey when he goes down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostrich Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 One of the strangest things to happen is him getting 3 years - for a lot of that time they could have got Pochettino instead. Ruined my corn flakes that they’re looking for an interim solution. Ends hopes that they could rescue us from what’s looking like a tricky situation and relationship that’s going south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Jerseybean said: as per the title seems the decision has been made: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59364319 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: I saw the thread title and thought that Rob F has had enough ! So did I! As long as he's still posting here and making the occassional appearance on OSIB then I'm happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Job for Cotts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Show Me The Money! said: Maybe they should go back to David Moyes If he hadn’t already been there he’d definitely be getting mentioned for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Zidane is favourite I think. Can’t see that working out too well though I know Leeds have done well with their guy but I think Zidane doesn't speak English, surely having to coach through a translator just adds yet another hassle. 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Edited November 21, 2021 by Redstart Duplicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Too many egos in the dressing room & too many United fans & ex players feeling they have a divine right to win everything. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Going to be a very hard job for whoever gets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2021/nov/21/cristiano-ronaldo-is-the-biggest-problem-for-next-manchester-united-manager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Inevitable after that performance yesterday- they were absolutely dreadful. Anyone else think Ronaldo while a truly legendary goal scorer, was a purely indulgent signing and has made them worse? No. Ronaldo contributes every game. Look at the likes of Maguire and Shaw for the problem. Compare their form now to at the Euros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City37 Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: Long term they are a run of the mill big club like Aston Villa. They struck lucky in the mid 90s by having half a dozen top class youth players come through at the same time as their appointing a decent manager. This made them pretty much unstoppable for a dozen years. Then that core of the team started to retire and Ferguson, seeing this and that the whole team now needed a rebuild, sensibly stepped down. The Glazers want to keep taking money out of the club rather than pushing it on to compete with Man City so the future will be like the present: hoping each season to try to nab sixth or seventh to get into Europe. All of those plastic fans who started to support Man Utd in the 90s are going to have few highlights in the future. And the manager's office will have a revolving door installed as nobody can make them a top three team on the Glazers' budget. Man Utd not comparable to Aston Villa in any way - a huge difference in history,size,fanbase and expectations. I'm not sure the Youth Team (class of 92) can be described as lucky as they were nurtured, coached and blended in to first team with experienced pros perfectly by AF. Certainly not a regular occurrence by any means but the vision by AF, and balls to move on big names like Hughes, Ince and Kanchelskis was massive. Alex Ferguson was ready to stand down anyway due to the years he had put in and his age (also wanted to spend more time with his wife). Not sure how old you are - but Man Utd have always attracted masses of new fans (all over the world) - even during the 80s when they only won the FA Cup - and Liverpool dominated our game. It is true that the Glazers have taken out huge amounts of money out of the club but have still spent massive in the transfer market and currently have the biggest wage bill in world football. Unfortunately they have squandered alot of this - if you consider circa £180 million on Maguire, Wan Bissaka and Fred and all three just look plain terrible. Best part of £90 million each on Pogba and Lukaku and couldn't get a tune out of either. Best part of £115 million on Van de Beek and Sancho (who both look quality) and Ole can't find a place in his team. The real issue for United is Woodward who has obviously done well on commercial deals for the club but his football decisions have been awful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Ostrich said: One of the strangest things to happen is him getting 3 years - for a lot of that time they could have got Pochettino instead. Ruined my corn flakes that they’re looking for an interim solution. Ends hopes that they could rescue us from what’s looking like a tricky situation and relationship that’s going south. I'm sure Brenda will be tempted with a sack full of cash. Don't think he is their answer either mind. Thought I heard on the radio yesterday or this morning that if he does leave you then Lampard is in the frame....be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Redstart said: I know Leeds have done well with their guy but I think Zidane doesn't speak English, surely having to coach through a translator just adds yet another hassle. Can see it being interim until end of the season and then Pochettino after he gets sacked from PSG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 I saw the thread title and thought that Rob F has had enough ! Let’s hope we never see that day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted November 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Steve Bruce is being mentioned as an interim in the media - which seems unlikely to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 As much as Ole was completely out of his depth the interview from De Gea was complete nonsense. He said we don't know what to do with the ball? These players are Internationals do they need to be told? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 At least critics of SL and GJ can be told “Man Utd and Ole” when they ask “who else has a press conference for when a manager has been sacked?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Yes, probably an age perspective. I view that 60s era through the black and white filter as being an age of Stanley Matthews, Blackpool, Burnley, Bert Troutmann and the heavy leather ball with laces. I'm not trying to diminish it but rather don't think that it has much connection with modern day football barring families who have supported the same club for generations and pass on the memories. City's greatest glory days were under Harry Thickett with IIRC losing an FA cup final 1-0 and coming third in the league; though that was all before the Great War. My clock started with seeing (on the telly) Alan Dicks and the team on the open topped bus celebrating promotion. This was probably also my first awareness that there was more to football than kicking a ball around the back garden and that there was a big team in Bristol. I would have known about Rovers before City as we used to go to Eastville market and I knew that a team called Rovers played football at the adjoining ground. Noted. I think we all see things differently based on our age and the eras we have experienced, but that’s not necessarily objective. In historical terms Man Utd and Liverpool are actually quite latecomers as glamour clubs, in my view, compared with say Arsenal or Villa, but have been up there since 1958 with a few dips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Indeed he is, but he does effect the way a team has to play, as he did when he was at Juve. There's a very good article from the Guardian, at about the time he was signed by ManU, explaining why it was a wrong move for them. https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2021/aug/28/cristiano-ronaldo-held-juventus-back-just-what-is-that-manchester-united-see-in-him Thank You for the link to a very interesting and insightful article, as ever from The Guardian. Never has a truer word been spoken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 13:52, Roger Red Hat said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2021/nov/21/cristiano-ronaldo-is-the-biggest-problem-for-next-manchester-united-manager Jonathan Wilson doesn't seem to rate Ronaldo, does he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Think it will be Pochettino to Man U and Zidane to PSG - either now or in the summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Apparently Pochettino doesn't like the interference he gets at PSG. Has he done any homework on Man Utd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Well, there's your reason. If Ronaldo is constantly droning on about 'Just one Cornetto', what do you expect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 An insightful interview with Ole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) I have to say, that was probably one of the worst "impersonations" I have ever seen in my life. Don't give up the day job. :laugh: It was absolutely pathetic. Edited November 22, 2021 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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