1960maaan Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 I see ONeil was moaning that they should have had 3 Pens, funny enough didn't mention their bloke auditioning for the Flyers. Personally at the time I was worried about one, the Kalas on Chester. I looked straight at the Ref and waited. One of those that anywhere else on the pitch it could be given, but everyone says it was soft. Joe Williams Vs Brown, from where I was I thought JW did well to get between man and ball, and we got the free kick , so I think that's a stretch. HNM Vs Ostigard, that looked like 50/50. If Ostigard doesn't grab HNM he doesn't end up grappling. But it could go either way, but went neither. Looking at our shout, at the time I couldn't see, the replay though ? Hand away from body and stops the ball going into the box. On the other side it does deflect off of his boot. What made it worse was the pathetic ignoring of the most blatant hand ball seconds later. Happy the Ref ignored the lot and in didn't prevent the win, just goes to show, sometime Lady Luck is on your side. A shit Ref will always be shit, you just hope decisions fall your way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Ref was awful but they had a case for the push by Kalas. Our shout was nailed on if we had VAR because the bloke’s arm was away from his body, I don’t like penalties for that myself but if it had been checked I’m sure we’d have got one. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Ref was awful but they had a case for the push by Kalas. Our shout was nailed on if we had VAR because the bloke’s arm was away from his body, I don’t like penalties for that myself but if it had been checked I’m sure we’d have got one. Absolutely they did but who cares?………. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 The guy is literally pulling HNM's hair. Would be raging if they had got a penalty for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, redsince1994 said: The guy is literally pulling HNM's hair. Would be raging if they had got a penalty for that. Getting your hair pulled hurts too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Getting your hair pulled hurts too You'll have to explain that to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, redsince1994 said: The guy is literally pulling HNM's hair. Would be raging if they had got a penalty for that. He followed that up with a handful of his shirt on his shoulder. Penalty my arse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Ref was awful but they had a case for the push by Kalas. Our shout was nailed on if we had VAR because the bloke’s arm was away from his body, I don’t like penalties for that myself but if it had been checked I’m sure we’d have got one. It came off his leg first ridiculous if you are giving penalties for that. Def correct decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Penalties are a bit stupid most of the time anyway when you think about it. Is a free shot at goal from 12 yards a fair punishment for any of those incidents? Probably not. But the rules are as they are, and probably won't change. I'm glad none were given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Super said: It came off his leg first ridiculous if you are giving penalties for that. Def correct decision. While I think that is the rule, it is more for the ball flicking off of boot to hand, player stood or making a challenge. Defender spread, arms out and stops the ball going into the area during an attack. I think it's easily given and you could understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Super said: It came off his leg first ridiculous if you are giving penalties for that. Def correct decision. Have you seen some of the penalties given due to VAR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Getting your hair pulled hurts too If I were the manager they’d all be clean shaven and wear skin-tight kit. sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Just now, bcfcredandwhite said: If I were the manager they’d all be clean shaven and wear skin-tight kit. sorted. Sounds like a sketch from Airplane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, redsince1994 said: The guy is literally pulling HNM's hair. Would be raging if they had got a penalty for that. Classic case of six of one and half a dozen of the other to me. Having watched a re-run on Sky today, their bias was cringeworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: While I think that is the rule, it is more for the ball flicking off of boot to hand, player stood or making a challenge. Defender spread, arms out and stops the ball going into the area during an attack. I think it's easily given and you could understand it. Ref used common sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 Every time i see the Kalas push the more I think how lucky we were to get away with it. Defo pen. There rest would have been incredibly harsh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, 1960maaan said: I see ONeil was moaning that they should have had 3 Pens, funny enough didn't mention their bloke auditioning for the Flyers. Personally at the time I was worried about one, the Kalas on Chester. I looked straight at the Ref and waited. One of those that anywhere else on the pitch it could be given, but everyone says it was soft. Joe Williams Vs Brown, from where I was I thought JW did well to get between man and ball, and we got the free kick , so I think that's a stretch. HNM Vs Ostigard, that looked like 50/50. If Ostigard doesn't grab HNM he doesn't end up grappling. But it could go either way, but went neither. Looking at our shout, at the time I couldn't see, the replay though ? Hand away from body and stops the ball going into the box. On the other side it does deflect off of his boot. What made it worse was the pathetic ignoring of the most blatant hand ball seconds later. Happy the Ref ignored the lot and in didn't prevent the win, just goes to show, sometime Lady Luck is on your side. A shit Ref will always be shit, you just hope decisions fall your way. Really surpised the Kalas one wasn't given, as it was so blatant. He was slow to react and Chester was in for a free header before that push. The HNM one could go down as the proverbial six of one, half a dozen of the other. Although it didn't look good on Quest highlights. Edited November 25, 2021 by NcnsBcfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 4 hours ago, TomF said: I'm still bitter about Scott Murray getting sent off for an apparent 'dive' back in 2001. So **** them and **** Stoke generally. Don’t forget the free kick at Wembley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, tin said: Classic case of six of one and half a dozen of the other to me. Having watched a re-run on Sky today, their bias was cringeworthy. A technical point was made. Citys player does not look at the ball. The offending defending ignores the basic defensive triangle principle. If you cannot see both ball and man you cannot defend them. Its a penalty. Edited November 25, 2021 by Cowshed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cowshed said: A technical point was made. Citys player does not look at the ball. The offending defending ignores the basic defensive triangle principle. If you cannot see both ball and man you cannot defend them. Its a penalty. Why couldn’t he see the ball, though? Because he was being pulled left, right and centre. The first tug was made by Chester IMO, hence six of one and half a dozen of the other and no penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, TomF said: And Graham Kavanagh, the man still haunts my nightmares Edited November 25, 2021 by alexukhc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, tin said: Why couldn’t he see the ball, though? Because he was being pulled left, right and centre. The first tug was made by Chester IMO, hence six of one and half a dozen of the other and no penalty. Because his position alters. If he stays with the defending principle of face up and ball and man he can then impede the player more efficiently. Edited November 25, 2021 by Cowshed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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