myol'man Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 ...and there is no danger of relegation from the rugby Premiership, will Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson in January ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 What does rugby have to do with FFP? 14 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Wish Steve would make his mind up - does he love the rugby/hate the City, or as this week suggests love the City/hate the rugby? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, myol'man said: ...and there is no danger of relegation from the rugby Premiership, will Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson in January ? PLAYERS WAGE BILL BRISTOL RUGBY = £7 million including marquee players and homegrown PLAYERS WAGE BILL BRISTOL CITY = £12Million according to salarysport.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 27, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 54 minutes ago, myol'man said: ...and there is no danger of relegation from the rugby Premiership, will Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson in January ? Really? SL could be rightly accused of spending his money unwisely or of making bad decisions but accusations of not spending in support of all his sporting interests and their facilities is utter nonsense. P.s membership /support for OTIB is £5. Whose wallet is dustiest? 16 1 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 'Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson' classic arrogant and disrespectful post. Lack of any concept of the financial differences between the 2 sports and in particular the financial constraints this football club are in. Do some research. Close thread mods. 15 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Wish Steve would make his mind up - does he love the rugby/hate the City, or as this week suggests love the City/hate the rugby? What’s he done for you to draw this conclusion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stknowle Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 4 hours ago, myol'man said: ...and there is no danger of relegation from the rugby Premiership, will Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson in January ? 'Oh hey there tired old chesnut. Nice to see you again. It's been weeks.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Clevedon Red said: What’s he done for you to draw this conclusion? Give us a minute while I go back through the old threads, and I'll get back to you on that .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just trying to open the debate boys and girls ️ I know that the top rugby boys earn the equivalent of a championship football player and the restraints of FFP in the EFL but SL isn't the Almighty you know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Give us a minute while I go back through the old threads, and I'll get back to you on that .... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 hours ago, The Bard said: PLAYERS WAGE BILL BRISTOL RUGBY = £7 million including marquee players and homegrown PLAYERS WAGE BILL BRISTOL CITY = £12Million according to salarysport.com 12 mil? Lansdown wishes. Double that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 49 minutes ago, myol'man said: I know the restraints of FFP in the EFL Cool you've answered your own question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, myol'man said: Just trying to open the debate boys and girls ️ I know that the top rugby boys earn the equivalent of a championship football player and the restraints of FFP in the EFL but SL isn't the Almighty you know So you "open the debate" then closed it yourself in your next post. Great. My dad used to refer to things like this as "attention getting behaviour"... but he was talking about children usually. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: So you "open the debate" then closed it yourself in your next post. Great. My dad used to refer to things like this as "attention getting behaviour"... but he was talking about children usually. I know that I'm getting shot down in flames here, but outside of the four walls of OTIB, fans ask this question. The point I'm making is the Bears are safe in the Premiership bubble, they sure ain't gonna win it this season, City haven't really spent big for several windows, so, will Pearson be given a bit of leeway to improve the squad? £££ A couple of years ago it was being said that as we are nowhere near the £39m loss over 3 season threshold it'll be soon time to splash the cash. Hasn't happened yet? *puts on tin helmet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, myol'man said: I know that I'm getting shot down in flames here, but outside of the four walls of OTIB, fans ask this question. The point I'm making is the Bears are safe in the Premiership bubble, they sure ain't gonna win it this season, City haven't really spent big for several windows, so, will Pearson be given a bit of leeway to improve the squad? £££ A couple of years ago it was being said that as we are nowhere near the £39m loss over 3 season threshold it'll be soon time to splash the cash. Hasn't happened yet? *puts on tin helmet When you factor in wages etc, we have no leeway on that loss figure. The only way we could spend is to sell someone for a significant fee. The people "outside the OTIB bubble" need educating on these things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Clevedon Red said: What’s he done for you to draw this conclusion? Whooooosh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, myol'man said: I know that I'm getting shot down in flames here, but outside of the four walls of OTIB, fans ask this question. The point I'm making is the Bears are safe in the Premiership bubble, they sure ain't gonna win it this season, City haven't really spent big for several windows, so, will Pearson be given a bit of leeway to improve the squad? £££ A couple of years ago it was being said that as we are nowhere near the £39m loss over 3 season threshold it'll be soon time to splash the cash. Hasn't happened yet? *puts on tin helmet I'm genuinely confused. In one post you seem to be implying that SL isn't spending by choice and this had something to to with the bears, in another post you say you know about the "restraints of FFP in the EFL", then in another following post you seem to then once again imply that it is some sort of decision not to fund Pearson. To be clear SL is wealthy enough that he could if he wanted to fund Bristol City the Bears and all the other sports ventures he is involved in a few times over but as you say there are rules such as FFP that stop this. I doubt he has a kitty for sport and then decides which way to push the money. Can you remember 19/20 when we did spend big when Kalas, Palmer, JD, HNM, Wells, Nagy, Bentley as well as about 5 other (at least) players joined? In what I think is an answer to your question - that's when we spent big. Edited November 27, 2021 by Pezo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 8 hours ago, myol'man said: ...and there is no danger of relegation from the rugby Premiership, will Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson in January ? Why is this myth still being peddled ffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyotib Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 8 hours ago, myol'man said: ...and there is no danger of relegation from the rugby Premiership, will Lansdown hand his dusty wallet to Pearson in January ? Let’s face it has he really ever backed us in January 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 57 minutes ago, myol'man said: I know that I'm getting shot down in flames here, but outside of the four walls of OTIB, fans ask this question. The point I'm making is the Bears are safe in the Premiership bubble, they sure ain't gonna win it this season, City haven't really spent big for several windows, so, will Pearson be given a bit of leeway to improve the squad? £££ A couple of years ago it was being said that as we are nowhere near the £39m loss over 3 season threshold it'll be soon time to splash the cash. Hasn't happened yet? *puts on tin helmet Firstly, I don’t understand why you bring Bears into the subject matter. It’s totally irrelevant in whether City have money to spend or not. If you genuinely want to discuss where City are in FFP terms, then I’m happy to get involved. Just reply as such and I’ll try and explain. But it is not “SL isn’t funding City, he’s funding Bears instead”, because actually he’s funding City massively. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Firstly, I don’t understand why you bring Bears into the subject matter. It’s totally irrelevant in whether City have money to spend or not. If you genuinely want to discuss where City are in FFP terms, then I’m happy to get involved. Just reply as such and I’ll try and explain. But it is not “SL isn’t funding City, he’s funding Bears instead”, because actually he’s funding City massively. Bringing the Bears into the discussion as we are all in the Bristol Sport team together, Bears are now much nearer being self sufficient than City. We all know SL funds both teams with huge amounts but he won't be here forever, so does he throw one more massive wedge at it before he rides off into the sunset? Or is he constrained by the FFP that you are about to explain? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, myol'man said: Bringing the Bears into the discussion as we are all in the Bristol Sport team together, Bears are now much nearer being self sufficient than City. We all know SL funds both teams with huge amounts but he won't be here forever, so does he throw one more massive wedge at it before he rides off into the sunset? Or is he constrained by the FFP that you are about to explain? Thank you Bears and City “funding” is completely separate, although both companies form part of Pula Sport…which SL owns. SL can put as much money as he likes into Bristol City, but unfortunately FFP means it’s pointless, because FFP says he can only cover losses not inject money - this is to stop an owner buying their way to success. A Champ club is allowed to make losses of £15m over a normal 3 year cycle (let’s ignore covid for now) without an owner offering to support (Ave. £5m p.a). If an owner offers to underwrite losses, then those increase to £39m of losses (Ave. £13m p.a). There are a few costs that are allowed to be left out of FFP, e.g. Academy and Ladies football. The losses over the last few years get complicated by covid. So that’s part one. Do you want to get into City’s position? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Whooooosh Not at all, mention made of something SL has done this week, just don’t know what it is that’s all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Bears and City “funding” is completely separate, although both companies form part of Pula Sport…which SL owns. SL can put as much money as he likes into Bristol City, but unfortunately FFP means it’s pointless, because FFP says he can only cover losses not inject money - this is to stop an owner buying their way to success. A Champ club is allowed to make losses of £15m over a normal 3 year cycle (let’s ignore covid for now) without an owner offering to support (Ave. £5m p.a). If an owner offers to underwrite losses, then those increase to £39m of losses (Ave. £13m p.a). There are a few costs that are allowed to be left out of FFP, e.g. Academy and Ladies football. The losses over the last few years get complicated by covid. So that’s part one. Do you want to get into City’s position? Yes, carry on please, very interesting Edited November 27, 2021 by myol'man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivieraRed Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 A pointless comment... taking pot shot at the Bears for no good reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, RivieraRed said: A pointless comment... taking pot shot at the Bears for no good reason... Taking pot shot at rugby Premiership for no relegation policy, Bears are just part of the closed shop now so they don't need anymore SL funding, finish bottom every season, no one cares! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC-Tom Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, myol'man said: Taking pot shot at rugby Premiership for no relegation policy, Bears are just part of the closed shop now so they don't need anymore SL funding, finish bottom every season, no one cares! No I’m pretty sure the Bristol Bears fans will care seeing them finish bottom every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) Sometimes things are finger-licking good, other times they're just ass-wiping bad. Do bears? I can't speak for all of you, but I need no second chance to post up a video of this beautiful, iconic British legend. I'm talking about Kate, but Rowan is pretty iconic too. Edited November 27, 2021 by AppyDAZE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 4 hours ago, myol'man said: I know that I'm getting shot down in flames here, but outside of the four walls of OTIB, fans ask this question. The point I'm making is the Bears are safe in the Premiership bubble, they sure ain't gonna win it this season, City haven't really spent big for several windows, so, will Pearson be given a bit of leeway to improve the squad? £££ A couple of years ago it was being said that as we are nowhere near the £39m loss over 3 season threshold it'll be soon time to splash the cash. Hasn't happened yet? *puts on tin helmet 6 hours ago, myol'man said: I know the restraints of FFP in the EFL You clearly don't know the restrains of FFP then..... And I wonder what could have happened in the last 20 ish months that might have changed the financial standpoint of the club from when people were talking about having a healthy buffer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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