Everton fans leaving after 20 minutes

[PHILINFRANCE]

2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Due to Liverpool, people forget that they are truly one of the biggest clubs in English football. Huge support, great history. But they've pissed away hundreds of millions over the past few seasons and are going backwards. 

The problems start at the top but Rafa and the players are getting it in the neck, which is what always happens in these types of situation. 

Anyway, Jota, what a player. Mad to think he played in the Championship a couple of years ago. 

Apart from Ronaldo, I seem to recall that Wolves were, effectively, the Portugal National team - or, at least, it often seemed like it.

Memory fades, but I am pretty sure that, on (at least) one occasion, whilst still in the Championship, they fielded an entire team of (Portuguese?) internationals.

 

[sglosbcfc]

4 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

Must be hard watching your next door neighbours and fiercest rivals embarrass you. That said you’re spot on, gotta stand with your team. 

Any Rovers fans care to comment? 

[YorkshireSection]

First game of prem football Ive seen in a while, what a game it was.

The goals were all so clinical, a true pleasure to watch.

[Oh Louie louie]

Had to leave 15 minutes early at Scunthorpe, once to make the last train to sheff.

Think it was either steve jones debut, or one of his first games.

Im sure we were losing when 1 0,  and by the time i got got to the station was 2 1.

[Oh Louie louie]

Thousands left early when they played man utd the other week.

That was really noticeable.

What a manager, wants to score goals, and entertain.

 

[Major Isewater]

8 hours ago, miser said:

Break the seal mate. Just do it once and you'll have no problem doing it again.

I am against cruelty to animals.

[Mad Cyril]

8 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

 Could be a vintage PL season. 

Not sure how anything that only goes back to 1992 can be termed "vintage"....

[Robbored]

Liverpool were awesome particularly in the first 20mins, they could have been 4 or 5 up instead of just 2. No surprise to to see the Evertonians leaving so early.

[Rob k]

27 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said:

Not sure how anything that only goes back to 1992 can be termed "vintage"....

Depends if you believe top flight football only began in 92 i suppose 

[Oh Louie louie]

I like it when it goes to the last day of season.

Pretty sure man united had to get something at upton park, last day one year.

Cole missed a few sitters.

 

[Red7]

10 hours ago, Redstart said:

Two down at home and leaving after 20 minutes, total tossers

I dislike Everton as much as the next man, but they may have just been going to get a pie or a pint (well) ahead of the half-time rush...

[The Bard]

8 hours ago, The Batman said:

I'm hoping it goes down to the last 2 games and all 3 could still win it. Rather than 1 club walking it being miles ahead then it just gets dull. 

The season Liverpool and man city both got high 90's in points was great because both could still win on the final day. To have another club still win it that late on would be awesome. 

Watch Chelsea and Liverpool crumble now and man city waltz away with it . 

African Cup of nations will be a real nightmare for Liverpool losing Salah and mane and Chelsea will lose Mendy. 

Bar mahrez, can't think of an African player for man city. Plus even if he doesn't play, they have an embarrassment of replacements 

If you look at the fixtures for the African cup of nations it will affect the 3rd and 4th rounds of the FACup plus 2 league games.

 

For Liverpool that's Palace and Brentford. Chelsea have Man City and Spurs. 

It probably won't make too much difference.  Depends how Egypt, Senegal , Algeria  etc do really.

[The Batman]

52 minutes ago, The Bard said:

If you look at the fixtures for the African cup of nations it will affect the 3rd and 4th rounds of the FACup plus 2 league games.

 

For Liverpool that's Palace and Brentford. Chelsea have Man City and Spurs. 

It probably won't make too much difference.  Depends how Egypt, Senegal , Algeria  etc do really.

I didn't look that far in to it. Chelsea playing them 2 teams with Kepa in goal though

[southside]

3 hours ago, Rob k said:

Depends if you believe top flight football only began in 92 i suppose 

Football pre 92 was just basically a kick about

[Redandproud]

13 hours ago, Ecko said:

We will be the same if we're 2 down on 20 mins on Saturday.

We do it(South Stand) winning or loosing 20mins before the end, 

[archie andrews]

2 hours ago, The Bard said:

If you look at the fixtures for the African cup of nations it will affect the 3rd and 4th rounds of the FACup plus 2 league games.

 

For Liverpool that's Palace and Brentford. Chelsea have Man City and Spurs. 

It probably won't make too much difference.  Depends how Egypt, Senegal , Algeria  etc do really.

So we won't have diedhiou available then?.... 

[Robin101]

Everton have spent somewhere close to half a billion quid in recent seasons and are going backwards. Since 1995, they've hardly troubled the top four and hardly been threatened with relegation, and haven't won a cup. Absolute snooze. 

Since then we've what, been relegated three times and promoted three times? And won at Wembley twice, and lost at Wembley twice, Millennium once... and made a semi-final of a 'proper' cup too. We might be shite, but we're more interesting at least.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Robin101

[Kid in the Riot]

2 minutes ago, Robin101 said:

Everton have spent somewhere close to half a billion quid in recent seasons and are going backwards. Since 1995, they've hardly troubled the top four and hardly been threatened with relegation, and haven't won a cup. Absolute snooze. 

Since then we've what, been relegated three times and promoted three times? And won at Wembley twice, and lost at Wembley twice, Millennium once... and made a semi-final of a 'proper' cup too. We might be shite, but we're more interesting at least.

They did get to the FA Cup final in 2009, but you're right more generally. They don't have much to show for the money they've spent, particularly since 2016.

[Merrick's Marvels]

14 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Really? The north east always held that in my mind closely followed by the midlands.

As far as cross-city rivalry in England is concerned, the North East and Midlands don't come close.

Imagine you're the pre-eminent side in your city, half a dozen times crowned the best team in England, winning numerous cups, producing international footballers some of them legends of the game, never out of the top flight of English football.

Your city rivals are second division also rans, an irrelevance.

Then you stop winning, round about the time the other lot, the also rans, appoint some bloke called Shankly. The rest is history - the other lot exceed all your achievements - and then some - more championships, more cups, more internationals. Even worse, the other lot conquer Europe, again and again. 

They become pre-eminent, you are irrelevance.

That's never happened in the North east or the Midlands.

That's the source of their anger and bitterness.

Kind of understandable, although Scousers, born with a chip on both shoulders, do anger and bitterness particularly well. 

The only other place in Britain to rival that strength of feeling is Glasgow, and there's a whole heap of other reasons for that obviously. Rangers weren't going mental because they won the league last season- they were going mental because they'd stopped Celtic winning 10 in a row. Similarly, Evertonians have never been happier in recent times than when Fergie's ManU ruled the roost - because it meant Liverpool weren't. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Merrick's Marvels

[Robin101]

4 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

As far as cross-city rivalry in England is concerned, the North East and Midlands don't come close.

Imagine you're the pre-eminent side in your city, half a dozen times crowned the best team in England, winning numerous cups, producing international footballers some of them legends of the game, never out of the top flight of English football.

Your city rivals are second division also rans, an irrelevance.

Then you stop winning, round about the time the other lot, the also rans, appoint some bloke called Shankly. The rest is history - the other lot exceed all your achievements - and then some - more championships, more cups, more internationals. Even worse, the other lot conquer Europe, again and again. 

They become pre-eminent, you are irrelevance.

That's never happened in the North east or the Midlands.

That's the source of their anger and bitterness.

Kind of understandable, although Scousers, born with a chip on both shoulders, do anger and bitterness particularly well. 

The only other place in Britain to rival that strength of feeling is Glasgow, and there's a whole heap of other reasons for that obviously. Rangers weren't going mental because they won the league last season- they were going mental because they'd stopped Celtic winning 10 in a row. Similarly, Evertonians have never been happier in recent times than when Fergie's ManU ruled the roost - because it meant Liverpool weren't. 

I’d actually dispute this, having lived in Liverpool for a few years. Won’t go into your ‘anger and bitterness’ comment re Scousers in general but safe to say I disagree.

On the footballing front, in the city Everton and Liverpool are equals. And there’s a lot of respect between the two sets of fans and the clubs in general - a lot due to Hillsbrough. Yeah, they’re rivals. And yeah, I’m sure there’s some idiots. But because allegiances go across families and friends, in general it’s quite a friendly rivalry. 

You wouldn’t find many who attest to genuinely hating the other side in the way that some on here feel about Rovers.

[Red-Robbo]

6 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

As far as cross-city rivalry in England is concerned, the North East and Midlands don't come close.

Imagine you're the pre-eminent side in your city, half a dozen times crowned the best team in England, winning numerous cups, producing international footballers some of them legends of the game, never out of the top flight of English football.

Your city rivals are second division also rans, an irrelevance.

Then you stop winning, round about the time the other lot, the also rans, appoint some bloke called Shankly. The rest is history - the other lot exceed all your achievements - and then some - more championships, more cups, more internationals. Even worse, the other lot conquer Europe, again and again. 

They become pre-eminent, you are irrelevance.

That's never happened in the North east or the Midlands.

That's the source of their anger and bitterness.

Kind of understandable, although Scousers, born with a chip on both shoulders, do anger and bitterness particularly well. 

The only other place in Britain to rival that strength of feeling is Glasgow, and there's a whole heap of other reasons for that obviously. Rangers weren't going mental because they won the league last season- they were going mental because they'd stopped Celtic winning 10 in a row. Similarly, Evertonians have never been happier in recent times than when Fergie's ManU ruled the roost - because it meant Liverpool weren't. 

 

There are a surprising number of people in Liverpool who still go to watch both Everton and Liverpool (used to be the case here with people watching City and Rovers, the practice mostly died out in the 70s).  Also, Liverpool fans real hatred still seems to be focussed on Man U rather than Everton.

In my experience, the real hatred rivalries are Sheffield United v Wednesday (was in the city centre once on a derby day. It was like a bleedin' war zone!) and Southampton v Portsmouth. I lived in Southampton at one time so I can say the Sotonian hatred of Portsmouth goes beyond football, to a general hatred of everything to do with the city and its inhabitants. 

[The Batman]

Everton in the mid 80's were an immense side. Had it not been for English teams ban on European Cup participation (younger members, ask your dad / uncle / grandad about Heysal) then it's believed by a lot of people that they'd have won it. 

[Northern Red]

5 minutes ago, The Batman said:

Everton in the mid 80's were an immense side. Had it not been for English teams ban on European Cup participation (younger members, ask your dad / uncle / grandad about Heysal) then it's believed by a lot of people that they'd have won it. 

And that would also go a long way to explaining any bitterness, given who was involved.

[Fuber]

They've been run like a circus for years and Kenwright is completely detached from the fans.

I'm not commenting on other fans actions, as like us this season, it's from the outside looking in. We may not know all the details, ergo I can't criticise their fans, when it's their money and their choice.

[Tin Soldier]

I used to leave City matches early back in the 80s. But usually I had a copper next to me!

[Portland Bill]

Everton have possibly the most loyal fanbase in the country, sell outs most weeks and fantastic away support. They also happen to be in the same City as one of the most successful clubs in Europe over the last 40 years, they themselves had a fantastic team in the mid 80’s, a team that were unable to show their true worth due to the European ban on English clubs. Yes, the ban that their neighbours initiated with the Heysel disaster. 
Why wouldn’t they feel bitter. After all, they have more support in their own City than their neighbours have!. 

The managers of that club have spent £500 million over the last few years, the fans do feel that their club should be doing better!. 
Imagine if we were in the same situation and Bristol Rovers were a highly successful club, ( I know, I know!!) how would we feel. I find it hard to see why anyone on here can’t work out why Everton fans are hugely peed off with their club.
 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Portland Bill

[Sleepy1968]

7 hours ago, Rob k said:

Depends if you believe top flight football only began in 92 i suppose 

Anything that happened before you were born (or can at least rememeber) is vintage isn't it? Unfortunately that means anyone under about 25 won't even remember the pre prem days, and unless they are into history won't give a monkeys about real football.

Maybe people were having these kind of discussions when they introduced  the Second division or made the regional Third divisions into the Third and Fourth division ...

[The Bard]

3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

There are a surprising number of people in Liverpool who still go to watch both Everton and Liverpool (used to be the case here with people watching City and Rovers, the practice mostly died out in the 70s).  Also, Liverpool fans real hatred still seems to be focussed on Man U rather than Everton.

In my experience, the real hatred rivalries are Sheffield United v Wednesday (was in the city centre once on a derby day. It was like a bleedin' war zone!) and Southampton v Portsmouth. I lived in Southampton at one time so I can say the Sotonian hatred of Portsmouth goes beyond football, to a general hatred of everything to do with the city and its inhabitants. 

Scummer

[Kid in the Riot]

3 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

In my experience, the real hatred rivalries are Sheffield United v Wednesday (was in the city centre once on a derby day. It was like a bleedin' war zone!) and Southampton v Portsmouth. I lived in Southampton at one time so I can say the Sotonian hatred of Portsmouth goes beyond football, to a general hatred of everything to do with the city and its inhabitants. 

As a former Pompey resident I can confirm the feeling is very much mutual! I was in the city for the first couple of Premier League derby games between the two of them, including when "Britain's youngest ever convicted football hooligan" a 10 year old Pompey fan threw a brick at police who were escorting the scummers back to Fratton station. 

In the years I lived there I never once saw anyone wearing a Saints shirt, not even so much as a Southampton car sticker. Anyone displaying such items would have no doubt been tossed into the Solent. 

[Davefevs]

51 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

As a former Pompey resident I can confirm the feeling is very much mutual! I was in the city for the first couple of Premier League derby games between the two of them, including when "Britain's youngest ever convicted football hooligan" a 10 year old Pompey fan threw a brick at police who were escorting the scummers back to Fratton station. 

In the years I lived there I never once saw anyone wearing a Saints shirt, not even so much as a Southampton car sticker. Anyone displaying such items would have no doubt been tossed into the Solent. 

I remember working in Southampton, when that happened.  Even our office was a pretty bad atmosphere.  That was the night I ate in the hotel.  Most nights I was in Walkabout watching footie.  Not that night.