Clevedon Red Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 21 hours ago, SecretSam said: The Germans soon caught us up on vaccines. And their case rate has been very, very low compared to ours, then shot up - ours has been around 40k per day for weeks. We are 75% Germany 71% of population double jabbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 hours ago, pillred said: It's ANY death within 28 days of a positive test, they could have died from anything but it still counts towards the total, that is the wording on the governments own website. Not the entire truth though. there is ONE count which is any death within 28 days of a positive test. This was done to simplify daily numbers and bring us in line with how other countries reported deaths. this 28 days was based on data that found the large majority of people who died from covid did so within 28 days, there are quite a few who day between day 29 and 60 but also some people who coincidentally contract covid and die because of the hypothetical bus or other obviously unrelated condition. for the sake of getting a daily update it’s fairly accurate and misses more actual covid deaths than including non-covid ones This is easily evidenced by the fact that of thr 3 counters, 28 day, death certificate and excess deaths - the 28 day count is (or was last time I had to correct someone on this) is the lowest of the three. it’s a piss poor argument to talk about the very tiny amount of people who are included in the daily figures (but not the official death certificate records) who didn’t die of covid to try and pretend the numbers are largely wrong and over-counted. The truth is, the daily count is under 145k vs 169k and you’ll find that on the deaths page on that very government website https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 4, 2021 Report Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 hours ago, pillred said: It's ANY death within 28 days of a positive test, they could have died from anything but it still counts towards the total, that is the wording on the governments own website. Yes, but plenty of died of COVID “after” those 28 days. Thousands I imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 Whilst the government have been far from perfect, the majority of action has / would’ve been challenged by those banging the human rights drum. I see it regularly in the work place. Our country was long ****** before this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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