Waconda Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Keep whatever powder we have dry and wait for the Summer. Continue the formation, team selection and tactics since NP came back from illness and we will survive comfortably. Don't see the point of panic/expensive purchases in January if this is a 3 year plan. If a "Tanner like" option appears then possibly yes but please, please no journeymen ex Prem players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 If martin and wells get ten between them between now and end of season be a miracle! If martin, his first choice gets injured, what then? Not getting in a striker now would be foolish. I expect 2 players to arrive. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Keep whatever powder we have dry and wait for the Summer. Continue the formation, team selection and tactics since NP came back from illness and we will survive comfortably. Don't see the point of panic/expensive purchases in January if this is a 3 year plan. If a "Tanner like" option appears then possibly yes but please, please no journeymen ex Prem players. Agree about the journeyman players (with the possible exception of a striker). However eight(?) points off a play off place with more than half the season to go, get Williams, Baker and King back in the fold, add a couple or three decent players and who knows? The Championship, despite parachute payments, is so tight that with a large slice of luck it’s possible a long shot could go up this season. I can at least dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Tbf, nigel asked for a striker 6 months ago. He was rebuffed. I fully expect to see 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: If martin and wells get ten between them between now and end of season be a miracle! If martin, his first choice gets injured, what then? Not getting in a striker now would be foolish. I expect 2 players to arrive. Probe is the wrong striker could be foolish too. If we can find a striker who can improve the team, we can afford him and he wants to come then brilliant. But if we can’t find the right player, I would rather we signed nobody rather than another Diony or Engvall. You say Wells and Martin won’t get ten between them but the mentality that we had to sign a striker, even if they weren’t the right for the team, is exactly why we signed Wells in the first place. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Lot of buts and ifs there london. Whats the diffrence now signing a striker to now, to in the summer? They have had six months to find somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Lot of buts and ifs there london. Whats the diffrence now signing a striker to now, to in the summer? They have had six months to find somebody. Far more OOC options in the Summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 51 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Keep whatever powder we have dry and wait for the Summer. Continue the formation, team selection and tactics since NP came back from illness and we will survive comfortably. Don't see the point of panic/expensive purchases in January if this is a 3 year plan. If a "Tanner like" option appears then possibly yes but please, please no journeymen ex Prem players. I doubt Pearson has much if anything to spend in January anyway so I wouldn’t worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Ive no idea at this point who would be a realistic and good striker signing, but hopefully the club has their targets lined up,,, its clearly possible that a younger striker in the lower leagues is the type they are looking at, but whether we can afford the best of them i dont know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Tbf, nigel asked for a striker 6 months ago. He was rebuffed. I fully expect to see 1. Did he? I remember him saying in one interview that he was happy with the strikers he has. Now that Semenyo has scored again - he could start to bag goals on a regular basis and that would solve the issue. One thing is for sure tho - Nige will need to offload before any incomings - and that’s assuming Nige will want to utilise the winter window and I’m not convinced that he will. We all know that January is not the best for any deals. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 The surgery we need upfront is essential. Agree above, a target must have been identfied, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Yes, he did want one robbo. Hence why wells has been surplus to requirements all season. Does he seem happy with him. We cant gamble on semenyo, going on a goal spree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Probe is the wrong striker could be foolish too. If we can find a striker who can improve the team, we can afford him and he wants to come then brilliant. But if we can’t find the right player, I would rather we signed nobody rather than another Diony or Engvall. You say Wells and Martin won’t get ten between them but the mentality that we had to sign a striker, even if they weren’t the right for the team, is exactly why we signed Wells in the first place. The interesting thing is that in recent games, Scott, O’Dowda, James and Bakinson have scored…are we finally gonna see a better contribution from midfield. I think some of this is linked to us playing a bit better and able to get players into shooting positions. I think we do need a forward, but I’m not convinced the right one will be available in January…and like Weimann filled the void early season, Semenyo might take on some of that going forward. Think there will be lots of rumours starting in the next week or so. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 What if he turns out to be a dele adebola, a bob taylor, a mark robins, a mike smith, on the other side of the coin. Even a colin gordon...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think we will only see a couple incoming if there are a couple outgoing. I also think talk of a striker is wide of the mark, strikers are the most expensive position to fill (and we don't have money) and I've seen it on this forum for the last 2 years - we could have Messi up front and would struggle. Why bother spending all that money for little impact. I would prefer we found another midfielder as good Williams without the injury record - but if that's not available then don't bother. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Perhaps a better idea would be to move out palmer dasilva and wells, that would free up a fortune to bring a loan striker in. the alternative is to sell on the family silver,, alex scott in this case,,, if we could get 8 million or so should we take it? The answer is that the club would definitely take it I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Surely if a player is available for the right money, and he improves the squad you go for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Perhaps a better idea would be to move out palmer dasilva and wells, that would free up a fortune to bring a loan striker in. the alternative is to sell on the family silver,, alex scott in this case,,, if we could get 8 million or so should we take it? The answer is that the club would definitely take it I suppose I’m sure the club will bite any clubs hands off that offer reasonable money for them. The difficulty will be in getting those reasonable offers and the wages offered being agreeable to the players themselves. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Perhaps a better idea would be to move out palmer dasilva and wells, that would free up a fortune to bring a loan striker in. the alternative is to sell on the family silver,, alex scott in this case,,, if we could get 8 million or so should we take it? The answer is that the club would definitely take it I suppose It definitely doesn’t feel like the right time to be doing that, unless we’re absolutely desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Posted something similar in the ridiculously titled “Pearson & Fleming out” thread. We are on course for 54/55 points, Derby & Barnsley (2 wins in 22) look down already, so unless we can see a player we want at a price we can afford, there is very little sense in us making signings, certainly no more than one. Loans that cannot be made permanent also make no sense, far better to persevere with the likes of Semenyo, Scott, Conway & Benarous than give some Prem kid games just to benefit someone else. Mind you I said in the summer that we wouldn’t be replacing the same number as left (13 out, 5 in) & got told I was wrong. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 One of the most uninspiring seasons in recent times, we just have to get through it until the summer unfortunately. Like many of said, there’s no point bringing in more short team fixes unless some long term options become available… However in January, I doubt that’s going to be the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Perhaps a better idea would be to move out palmer dasilva and wells, that would free up a fortune to bring a loan striker in. the alternative is to sell on the family silver,, alex scott in this case,,, if we could get 8 million or so should we take it? The answer is that the club would definitely take it I suppose I think you wildly underestimate how difficult it is to ‘move out’ such players - especially if they’re high earners. If we shift 1 of the 3 we’ve done well. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Robbored said: Did he? I remember him saying in one interview that he was happy with the strikers he has. Now that Semenyo has scored again - he could start to bag goals on a regular basis and that would solve the issue. One thing is for sure tho - Nige will need to offload before any incomings - and that’s assuming Nige will want to utilise the winter window and I’m not convinced that he will. We all know that January is not the best for any deals. Yes. His summer update said that he wanted 5 players, 2 centre halves, 2 midfield players & “someone to stick the ball in the back of the net”. Those were his exact words & it was on the official site, too.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 We are 1, max 2 injuries away from a major crisis (again). Relegation is a very realistic outcome in that circumstance. A striker is an absolute must. Dependent on how Nige wants us to set up, wide men also required. A solid central midfielder wouldn’t go amiss either. Don't count on any of the injury-prone players becoming regulars. Our players once broken, appear to remain broke or, at least, easily damaged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The interesting thing is that in recent games, Scott, O’Dowda, James and Bakinson have scored…are we finally gonna see a better contribution from midfield. I think some of this is linked to us playing a bit better and able to get players into shooting positions. I think we do need a forward, but I’m not convinced the right one will be available in January…and like Weimann filled the void early season, Semenyo might take on some of that going forward. Think there will be lots of rumours starting in the next week or so. Yep, that’s whatI think Nige was referring to recently when mentioning “more goals”. He didn’t mention bringing in an extra striker this window. James made a huge difference at Hull and with Williams not too far away the midfield will look very different to what we’ve seen thus far and that will make an impact on performances and results. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Yes. His summer update said that he wanted 5 players, 2 centre halves, 2 midfield players & “someone to stick the ball in the back of the net”. Those were his exact words & it was on the official site, too.. Was he ‘rebuffed’ tho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Surely if a player is available for the right money, and he improves the squad you go for him? How often does that happen during the winter window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Didn't Nige say back in August that he didn't expect to do much, if any, business in January? I remember him saying he was happy with the squad he had for the season. Obviously managers often trot this out without really meaning it but I don't think Nige does. There was talk from Gould about the need to bring plans forward but that was when we looked in danger of slipping into a relegation fight. Things have steadied so it would seem sensible to go back to Plan A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Yes, he did want one robbo. Hence why wells has been surplus to requirements all season. Does he seem happy with him. We cant gamble on semenyo, going on a goal spree. Possible incoming a striker & a right winger - at least one will be a loan with buy option at end of season. Injuries are always possible & if our strikers are hit we could be left relying on Semenyo - not a great idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: How often does that happen during the winter window? Very often? We’ve historically made several significant signings in that window. You’ll like this, but the biggest example I can think of in recent-ish history is signing Dele Adebola in 07/08. A good player in his own right, but not quite what we needed. Hull got Frazier Campbell and went up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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