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54 minutes ago, Riaz said:

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if this was the case, the media would be making the most of it and it would be plastered everywhere 

ps to clarify, I’m not saying there won’t be any. What i am saying, is that it will be extremely low and there is no justification for the hysteria or any restrictions 

A doubling rate of 2 days alone is enough to justify some restrictions. If that carries on in a restriction-free population, eventually cases get so high that so many people are out of circulation - either isolating or actually ill - that society ceases to function properly. Not least of all those working for the NHS.

The threat of a virus is ALWAYS a function of both transmissibility AND severity. A highly transmissible variant that is much less deadly can pose a greater threat to our healthcare services than a much less transmissible variant that is more deadly, because of the sheer numbers involved.

They don’t even need to die; if they take up a hospital bed, someone else who needs it isn’t getting it.

This is bloody obvious to anyone with half a brain and I’m sick to death of having to explain it to idiots like you spouting utter nonsense as if you’re some sort of expert.

Listen to Chris Whitty. He’s got more letters after his name than a bowl of alphabetti spaghetti because he’s highly qualified and actually knows what he’s talking about. And he’s telling us to take it seriously.

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19 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

A doubling rate of 2 days alone is enough to justify some restrictions. If that carries on in a restriction-free population, eventually cases get so high that so many people are out of circulation - either isolating or actually ill - that society ceases to function properly. Not least of all those working for the NHS.

The threat of a virus is ALWAYS a function of both transmissibility AND severity. A highly transmissible variant that is much less deadly can pose a greater threat to our healthcare services than a much less transmissible variant that is more deadly, because of the sheer numbers involved.

They don’t even need to die; if they take up a hospital bed, someone else who needs it isn’t getting it.

This is bloody obvious to anyone with half a brain and I’m sick to death of having to explain it to idiots like you spouting utter nonsense as if you’re some sort of expert.

Listen to Chris Whitty. He’s got more letters after his name than a bowl of alphabetti spaghetti because he’s highly qualified and actually knows what he’s talking about. And he’s telling us to take it seriously.

Come on mate. You know @Riaz knows better.

Well… unless you include the other day when @IAmNick completely ruined him and he didn’t reply. That was awkward. 

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40 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

A doubling rate of 2 days alone is enough to justify some restrictions. If that carries on in a restriction-free population, eventually cases get so high that so many people are out of circulation - either isolating or actually ill - that society ceases to function properly. Not least of all those working for the NHS.

The threat of a virus is ALWAYS a function of both transmissibility AND severity. A highly transmissible variant that is much less deadly can pose a greater threat to our healthcare services than a much less transmissible variant that is more deadly, because of the sheer numbers involved.

They don’t even need to die; if they take up a hospital bed, someone else who needs it isn’t getting it.

This is bloody obvious to anyone with half a brain and I’m sick to death of having to explain it to idiots like you spouting utter nonsense as if you’re some sort of expert.

Listen to Chris Whitty. He’s got more letters after his name than a bowl of alphabetti spaghetti because he’s highly qualified and actually knows what he’s talking about. And he’s telling us to take it seriously.

It’s being reported elsewhere that it’s mild. 
Our government has an agenda.

20 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Come on mate. You know @Riaz knows better.

Well… unless you include the other day when @IAmNick completely ruined him and he didn’t reply. That was awkward. 

I replied and he didn’t ruin me at all. 
 

I stood by my comments. Problem is, people don’t understand what is actually going on. And how few healthy people under 60 are actually dying. 

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1 minute ago, Riaz said:

It’s being reported elsewhere that it’s mild. 
Our government has an agenda.

I replied and he didn’t ruin me at all. 
 

I stood by my comments. Problem is, people don’t understand what is actually going on. And how few healthy people under 60 are actually dying. 

Do you agree that the vaccine is preventing deaths?

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26 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Come on mate. You know @Riaz knows better.

Well… unless you include the other day when @IAmNick completely ruined him and he didn’t reply. That was awkward. 

Main problem is imo that it's a lot easier to throw these claims out without a shred of evidence than it is to refute them, which takes time and in quite a few cases specialist knowledge. By the point you get there, they've moved on to the next thing anyway.

Eventually they just land at some nebulous impossible to prove one way or the other point about "media fear" or "control" and think they've won.

I have a real interest in reading about conspiracy theories and cults and how they form, and it's a super common theme.

4 minutes ago, Riaz said:

It’s being reported elsewhere that it’s mild. 
Our government has an agenda.

I replied and he didn’t ruin me at all. 
 

I stood by my comments. Problem is, people don’t understand what is actually going on. And how few healthy people under 60 are actually dying. 

I think most people know few healthy under 60s are dying, but they also understand there's a bigger picture.

I didn't bother responding as you admitted you had based your posts that the jabs would sterilize people off literally nothing. It's like me saying "I think the jab will at some point in the future turn everyone's index finger purple!". Totally meaningless. That's not free thinking.

The irony of you posting that crap, which is incredibly emotive without a SHRED of evidence while whinging all the time about "the media" and "fearmongering" is staggering.

What's the government agenda?

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8 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

I didn't bother responding as you admitted you had based your posts that the jabs would sterilize people off literally nothing. It's like me saying "I think the jab will at some point in the future turn everyone's index finger purple!". Totally meaningless. That's not free thinking.

The irony of you posting that crap, which is incredibly emotive without a SHRED of evidence while whinging all the time about "the media" and "fearmongering" is staggering.

I said from day one, i don’t know what the alterior motive is, but i said my suspicion was to effect fertility. That remains to be seen if i was right. I still think i will be proven correct.
But we will see

What’s the government agenda?

To scare people, take their rights away and be able to control people

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4 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

This is wrong, it has

Feel like a parrot here. But can you provide a link?

As i said before, would he plastered everywhere.

All we saw was one person died WITH…

1 minute ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

Another halfwit for the block list - the biggest pandemic is idiocy 

Indeed, sheep everywhere who can’t think for themselves or search for information ??‍♂️

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3 minutes ago, Alan Dicks' Barmy Army said:

Lucky for us then you clearly know so much more than everyone else 

Don’t claim to know more than the next person. Plenty of information online. 
 

A lot of what i have said has/was based on official figures 

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21 minutes ago, Riaz said:

It’s being reported elsewhere that it’s mild. 
Our government has an agenda.

I replied and he didn’t ruin me at all. 
 

I stood by my comments. Problem is, people don’t understand what is actually going on. And how few healthy people under 60 are actually dying. 

If you actually had the intellectual capacity to read and understand my post you would realise that the variant being “mild” entirely misses the point.

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5 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I said from day one, i don’t know what the alterior motive is, but i said my suspicion was to effect fertility. That remains to be seen if i was right. I still think i will be proven correct.
But we will see

What’s the government agenda?

To scare people, take their rights away and be able to control people

Good grief. Beyond help.

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3 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I said from day one, i don’t know what the alterior motive is, but i said my suspicion was to effect fertility. That remains to be seen if i was right. I still think i will be proven correct.
But we will see

What’s the government agenda?

To scare people, take their rights away and be able to control people

Do you read back what you write? Jesus wept. Did you watch Fortress last night or something?

Anyway, would you agree that the vaccine is preventing a large number of deaths? 

(Hint: if you say “yes” it’ll really hurt you. If you say “no” you’ll discredit yourself as much as your population control conspiracy.) 

You choose. 

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1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

Do you read back what you write? Jesus wept. Did you watch Fortress last night or something?

Anyway, would you agree that the vaccine is preventing a large number of deaths? 

(Hint: if you say “yes” it’ll really hurt you. If you say “no” you’ll discredit yourself as much as your population control conspiracy.) 

You choose. 

It has prevented deaths.

But it’s nowhere near as effective has the trials said they would be.

Certainly not enough to coerce or force people to have it. 
 

And i think is lots of information being surpressed about side effects and what it does to peoples immune systems 

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3 hours ago, Riaz said:

Can you find me a news article that explicitly says someone had died OF the variant… 

But not WITH like Boris announced.

Should be easy enough to find. The media would be getting the maximum fear out of it. 

Again showing your complete lack of medical knowledge.

Peoplr don’t always die OF the thing that caused their downfall. AIDs is a huge example of this, it tears down the body’s immune system making it more susceptible to other infections.

That’s why there’s more than one line on a death certificate.

Similarly if someone dies because of a blood clot caused by the vaccine, did the vaccine not kill them if technically not was a blood clot?

Also looks like the bloke who died was described as fit and healthy albeit over 60

24 minutes ago, Riaz said:

It’s being reported elsewhere that it’s mild. 
Our government has an agenda.

I replied and he didn’t ruin me at all. 
 

I stood by my comments. Problem is, people don’t understand what is actually going on. And how few healthy people under 60 are actually dying. 

Shifting the goal posts but anyway, how many people under 60 are “healthy”. 2/3 of the population are overweight, 1/3 are obese.

Only the unhealthy is such a bollocks statement because it ignores the fact that so many people are not “healthy”.

As for your nonsense about fertility. Zero evidence or education to back that up, just a complete conspiracy theory

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6 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I said from day one, i don’t know what the alterior motive is, but i said my suspicion was to effect fertility. That remains to be seen if i was right. I still think i will be proven correct.
But we will see

What’s the government agenda?

To scare people, take their rights away and be able to control people

But if you have no idea, the problem is you can and will point at anything and everything as some kind of step towards your undefined end state.

I'm confused why all these countries would band together to do this, and why the companies/universities  who make their money from healing sick people would want to reduce the number of people there are.

 

Our government is pretty good at taking our rights away regardless if it wants to. Now if you said they have at times used this as a slight excuse to push other legislation they wanted through I might agree - but it's a one way process for me. They're not then making things seem worse to then get even more through.

Again, if you think the above isn't a conspiracy theory, and you're not a conspiracy theorist, I suggest you look up the definition:

"A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable"

Check!

"Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth,[8][12] whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can be proven or disproven."

Check!

"Conspiracy theorists see themselves as having privileged access to socially persecuted knowledge or a stigmatized mode of thought that separates them from the masses who believe the official account"

Check!

It's word for word what you say. You need help - and I genuinely mean that. Don't fall down this rabbit hole too far as you'll never get out.

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2 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Again showing your complete lack of medical knowledge.

Peoplr don’t always die OF the thing that caused their downfall. AIDs is a huge example of this, it tears down the body’s immune system making it more susceptible to other infections.

That’s why there’s more than one line on a death certificate.

Similarly if someone dies because of a blood clot caused by the vaccine, did the vaccine not kill them if technically not was a blood clot?

Also looks like the bloke who died was described as fit and healthy albeit over 60

Shifting the goal posts but anyway, how many people under 60 are “healthy”. 2/3 of the population are overweight, 1/3 are obese.

Only the unhealthy is such a bollocks statement because it ignores the fact that so many people are not “healthy”.

As for your nonsense about fertility. Zero evidence or education to back that up, just a complete conspiracy theory

I’m not moving any goal posts.

Under 60’s without underlying health conditions. It’s been very low, the whole time. 

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2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

But if you have no idea, the problem is you can and will point at anything and everything as some kind of step towards your undefined end state.

I'm confused why all these countries would band together to do this, and why the companies/universities  who make their money from healing sick people would want to reduce the number of people there are.

 

Our government is pretty good at taking our rights away regardless if it wants to. Now if you said they have at times used this as a slight excuse to push other legislation they wanted through I might agree - but it's a one way process for me. They're not then making things seem worse to then get even more through.

Again, if you think the above isn't a conspiracy theory, and you're not a conspiracy theorist, I suggest you look up the definition:

"A conspiracy theory is an explanation for an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful groups, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable"

Check!

"Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth,[8][12] whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can be proven or disproven."

Check!

"Conspiracy theorists see themselves as having privileged access to socially persecuted knowledge or a stigmatized mode of thought that separates them from the masses who believe the official account"

Check!

It's word for word what you say. You need help - and I genuinely mean that. Don't fall down this rabbit hole too far as you'll never get out.

Lots of conspiracies turn out to be true! 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Riaz said:

Lots of conspiracies turn out to be true! 

A few do, out of the millions and millions that don't and are very quietly forgotten. I'm struggling to think of anything even approaching this scale though - that's the problem with a conspiracy. People are pretty useless!

It's just like when you read the betting threads on here and everyone is up for the year, and the last few years too in fact.

We've probably got about 100 forgotten conspiracy theories since covid started already!

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16 minutes ago, Riaz said:

Don’t claim to know more than the next person. Plenty of information online. 
 

A lot of what i have said has/was based on official figures 

Sunday Sport proved Elvis to be riding Shergar on the moon with Lord Lucan as his groom. Go to their online presence and there's a whole load of fact one might barely think credible - plus Tony 'Loudmouth' Livesey, now of credible 5Live, was once was their Editor in Chief, so must be true.....

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13 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

A few do, out of the millions and millions that don't and are very quietly forgotten. I'm struggling to think of anything even approaching this scale though - that's the problem with a conspiracy. People are pretty useless!

It's just like when you read the betting threads on here and everyone is up for the year, and the last few years too in fact.

We've probably got about 100 forgotten conspiracy theories since covid started already!

Covid emanated from 5G masts. Look at those initial hotspots. All close to newly installed 5G masts. 

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