The Bard Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Chelsea asked for their game to be postponed today which was rightly refused. The poor little darlings then 'only' had 14 outfield players available from their squad plus 3 keepers. They have over 50 youth players listed as available for the EPL (though the likes of Gilmour, Ampadu, Gallagher and Broja are out on loan). This sort of crap absolutely boils my piss. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 EFL and Prem will have to be strict this year if we’re going to complete all the competitions. As will UEFA with European matches. If you can play, you play. Beats the hell out of another league suspension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, BCFCGav said: EFL and Prem will have to be strict this year if we’re going to complete all the competitions. As will UEFA with European matches. If you can play, you play. Beats the hell out of another league suspension. Quite right. Don’t understand at all the clamour in some quarters for it to be suspended. As you say, if you can get a team out games on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 I know Leeds problems are injuries and not covid related but they still put out youth players against arsenal. The side Chelsea put out today is still a top 4/5 squad so they should stop with the pettiness trying to get the game postponed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Not sure on PL but direction from the football league is that you need 14 senior players available, frankly I'm just surprised one didn't go down with an 'injury' to take them to 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Lrrr said: Not sure on PL but direction from the football league is that you need 14 senior players available, frankly I'm just surprised one didn't go down with an 'injury' to take them to 13 Well they bring on a sub. There's a maximum of 3 per game. That's why it's 14 rather than 11! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Doug Rougvie would've been out there today - short sleeves, short shorts, short of breath/fitness/ball control - not cowering from a bloody cold doing the rounds. Micky Droy/John Bumstead the same. Clive Walker: not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Doug Rougvie would've been out there today - short sleeves, short shorts, short of breath/fitness/ball control - not cowering from a bloody cold doing the rounds. Micky Droy/John Bumstead the same. Clive Walker: not so sure. And Graeme Le Saux would have been tucked up at home with a good book. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Bard said: Well they bring on a sub. There's a maximum of 3 per game. That's why it's 14 rather than 11! Point being if one did they're within their right to cancel it if the PL has the same rule as the EFL. Why admit you're on 14 when they want the game of rather than just saying a player has a strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Just now, Lrrr said: Point being if one did they're within their right to cancel it if the PL has the same rule as the EFL. Why admit you're on 14 when they want the game of rather than just saying a player has a strain. I suspect it`s more that, being Chelsea, they expected the PL to roll over for them like they normally do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Most of us on this forum can only dream of 14 available footballers. Most weeks I struggle to spot 1. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 It’s a squad game. Ridiculous that any games were cancelled at all. Seemingly quite a few teams called off due to injuries and suspensions and so have intently flouted the covid situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 The summer break is already going to be shorter than usual to accommodate for the World Cup in November/December. It's going to be interesting how the FA, UEFA manage things if there's a backlog of matches due to Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Harry said: It’s a squad game. Ridiculous that any games were cancelled at all. Seemingly quite a few teams called off due to injuries and suspensions and so have intently flouted the covid situation. At least 3 of the matches were off due to teams having to close there training grounds for cleaning and stop the virus spreading. This meant teams were not able to fulfil fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, wayne allisons tongues said: At least 3 of the matches were off due to teams having to close there training grounds for cleaning and stop the virus spreading. This meant teams were not able to fulfil fixtures. Back in the day they would use their own pitch ( or the Winterstoke car park) Edited December 19, 2021 by The Horse With No Name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 The other issue will come with when are players who have had Covid deemed ‘fit’ if you have the bare minimum amount, are players going to be expected to from a 10 day isolation where they may not have been able to do any exercise and next day be in a match day squad of 14? Are they going to be given a few days to get a couple of hard sessions into them to rest where they’re at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Pre season and with Covid disruption in mind all Premier League teams agreed that matches would go ahead if a team had 14 available players. So why are Chelsea complaining about something they agreed to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Mr X said: The summer break is already going to be shorter than usual to accommodate for the World Cup in November/December. It's going to be interesting how the FA, UEFA manage things if there's a backlog of matches due to Covid. Even shorter when you factor in Nations League fixtures during June and the season starts again in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Heading towards a suspension of top flight football, seems enough of the powerful clubs want it to make it happen. Then wait till they complain about fixture congestion. Personally see it difficult when clubs are asking when most premier league clubs have squad lists if 80 players, do what Leeds did and play youth. Fans have to be considered, simply can not have another Villa v Burnley when fans arrive at the ground to find out game cancelled due to covid, that is simply unacceptable. Interesting to see what EFL clubs do if top flight does take a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Chelsea have 11 squad players out on loan, including one to another Prem team, one to AC Milan & as we know, they seem extremely keen to help Reading out for some reason. **** them, I saw that Gillingham in L1 only had 4 subs for a game a week or two ago & 3 of them had never started a league game before this season, the difference is they didn’t moan about it & genuinely had no one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Harry said: It’s a squad game. Ridiculous that any games were cancelled at all. Seemingly quite a few teams called off due to injuries and suspensions and so have intently flouted the covid situation. That didn't happen. Clubs had to prove there was an ongoing outbreak within the 'club' - staff as well. No one called off because of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Coxy27 said: That didn't happen. Clubs had to prove there was an ongoing outbreak within the 'club' - staff as well. No one called off because of injuries. Can guarantee there have been talks about it at some clubs, games got called of as far back as October for ‘Covid’ when they only had a couple of cases but a lot of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, daored said: Heading towards a suspension of top flight football, seems enough of the powerful clubs want it to make it happen. Then wait till they complain about fixture congestion. Personally see it difficult when clubs are asking when most premier league clubs have squad lists if 80 players, do what Leeds did and play youth. Fans have to be considered, simply can not have another Villa v Burnley when fans arrive at the ground to find out game cancelled due to covid, that is simply unacceptable. Interesting to see what EFL clubs do if top flight does take a break The issue with playing youth is if they play even 1 minute of a game they’re counted as one of the ‘senior’ players moving forward, so say you brought on 2 or 3 for a couple of minutes to see a game out and then 3 genuine senior players went down you’d then have those 3 youth players count as senior players and be massively depleted. as much as everyone will say you have squads use them and youth etc, the football league need to maintain a fair playing field as well. You’ll have some clubs not play a single game over this Christmas period and some play all of them. So some will have fresh squads when they play those who are knackered. the other thing being how long does someone with Covid get to recover after their 10 day isolation? They can’t be expected to play 1 day after it so do they get another 5/10 days where they aren’t counted as available so they get back up to speed? Someone who’d been out injured for 2 weeks you wouldn’t just chuck in and expect to perform after 10 days of no exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Can guarantee there have been talks about it at some clubs, games got called of as far back as October for ‘Covid’ when they only had a couple of cases but a lot of injuries. Clubs/Managers/Whoever at clubs may well have thought about requesting, or even actually requested, postponements under the guise of COVID but really just to benefit themselves because of injuries - I agree with that. However - as the Chelsea example demonstrates (Again I fully agree that it is ridiculous to suggest Chelsea should have been called off when you look at the team they fielded, with Saul, Barkley, Kovacic on the bench as well!) it required a level of proof that there was indeed a certain level of cases within the CLUB - not just the playing staff necessarily. No premier league games have been called off because of injuries or suspensions. Chelsea is the prime example of that - they requested and were rightly refused. The games called off were because of COVID - cases among players and staff, and the likelihood that continuing to train and play would spread it further. If you listen to Conte's interviews this week he says that they were forced to close the training ground for three days - the club had no power over that decision, it was the same at other clubs. The Premier League isn't just arbitrarily deciding over each game with no evidence! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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