eardun Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, redysteadygo said: and all the promise thrown away against Wolves........ The Wolves league match had - and has - no bearing on my enjoyment of the Man Utd Q final. And, unlike the Man Utd match, I won’t remember the Wolves match for the rest of my life! In fact, I’d forgotten about it until you brought it up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Goosebumps watching back those YouTube videos of both games against the Manc clubs. The noise is something else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Sturny said: I wonder what Magnússon is up to. I remember seeing him Vs Newcastle at home thinking he was the best defender i've seen in a city shirt, he won everything. Came very close to scoring that night as well …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Tin Soldier said: Agreed, what a squad. Still get quite emotional watching that video. Most of that squad sold off by that **** Ashton. In fairness, while I have sympathy with the view the only real chance of holding that squad together and building on it was if we had gone up in 2017/18. Not making the top 6- not necessarily top 2 but the playoffs, felt like a failure to me from where we were at the turn of the year- and with all that Cup experience in 2017/18 and to an extent in differing ways the previous seasons within that squad, we would never have had a better chance of winning the playoffs IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Northern Red said: And yet, here you are. Yes here I am concerned with the future not the past,great memories but we can all dwell on past glories. A bit irrelevant considering our current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, Banjo Red said: Yes here I am concerned with the future not the past,great memories but we can all dwell on past glories. A bit irrelevant considering our current situation. Crikey! If I didn’t remember the good times every time City have been in a rough patch in the last 45 years, there would really be no point in carrying on with this affair. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 hours ago, CheddarReds said: Full 90: Bristol City 2-1 Manchester United | Bristol City (bcfc.co.uk) If anyone else wants to join me in shutting out the world this morning! Thanks that’s my night shift sorted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 We should have built on that squad instead we sold off the crown jewels. if we ever needed new investment to come in it was then to push us forward. However the Lansdowns were basking in the glory and although it was only 4 years ago it feels like we have gone backwards 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Overriding memory was the shock/elation of the winner and the immediate realisation I needed to bottle that feeling up and begin a complete rewrite. That match report was read by 3.2 million people. City were probably the biggest sports story in the world that night. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, The Journalist said: That match report was read by 3.2 million people. City were probably the biggest sports story in the world that night. Not Manchester United losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Not Manchester United losing? They couldn’t have done it without us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 17 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said: Ha! I was far from speechless - I talked through the entire game - every kick - every decision - constantly for the rest of the night like a recording on loop!!! I was certainly like that the next day! Credit to my wife, she does not give a toss about football but she understood the significance and let me ramble on without complaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 23 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Whatever your thoughts on LJ the bloke gave us this magical night against Man Utd and their megastars and for that I will always be grateful to him. Agree. LJ has another chance to do it all again tonight of course - Q Final v Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Slippin cider said: Came very close to scoring that night as well …. Did you ? You little tinker you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 The 1 man, man unted pitch invader after the final whistle, was funny to watch. First person he ran into was a monster of a bloke, who slung him to the floor, than sat on him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Pretty depressing tbh. The football we played back then was really good. If only Pearson had some of those players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 hours ago, westonred said: We should have built on that squad instead we sold off the crown jewels. if we ever needed new investment to come in it was then to push us forward. However the Lansdowns were basking in the glory and although it was only 4 years ago it feels like we have gone backwards 10 Unfortunately the club didn’t meet the ambitions of the players (Bryan, Flint and Reid) in 17/18. Bryan allegedly had offers in the Jan window but club wanted him to stay to see if he could help get us up. We tailed off badly as we all know, and all 3 left in the summer, plus Magnússon (and Djuric) netting us £20m+. We bought Weimann, Hunt and Webster, loaned Kalas and Dasilva, then Palmer. It was the lowest amount in fees we paid in LJs reign, which was surprising with the amount brought in. Re the 3 players that left: I bumped into Joe Bryan at Cribbs just after our season ended. There was all kinds of shit flying around that he was in Barbados (or somewhere like that) on a pre-booked holiday because he’d downed tool second half of the season and therefore knew we wouldn’t get to the play-offs. Yet here he was chatting for about half an hour with me and (my) Joe, who he’d met several times at the Hospice, whilst waiting for his brother to pick up the wedding suits. He was pretty open about his future. Said he loved it at City, but needed a new challenge. It wasn’t about money, he said he’d been brought up in a pretty privileged position. It was obvious he wasn’t staying. Flint, we’d managed to delay his sale by 12 months, again, a case of him wanting to do the best he could in a short career that started late for him. I think it was play-offs or bust that season for him. Reid was just a case of him having a stellar season and not being able to do anything about it. Cardiff was a strange choice, but from the club point of view, you take the highest bidder. So, yes, we should’ve built on that season, but the failure to get to the playoffs meant a mini-rebuild was needed. In some respects finishing 8th (best finish under LJ) in 18/19 (we finished 11th in 17/18) justified it, but I think many would agree we weren’t the same team that season, we didn’t play great, but results kept us moving up the league (was it 13 unbeaten?), but having got into the top 6 we let didn’t win in 5, got a couple of results (West Brom (h) Sheff Utd (a)) before we didn’t win any of our last 5. It was more boom and bust. And then we lost Kelly (Bryan succession planning), Pack (the key to the system) and Webster. Even Paterson going on loan to Derby had an impact. In fairness to Johnson, he kept results going, but it wasn’t great to watch. We didn’t really improve the squad, we just made loans permanent at a cost of £14m, and Nagy for Pack was a huge risk that ultimately failed and in part cost LJ his job. So we lost 6 or 7 of our best / key players over two summers….then Brownhill. I don’t think any replacement player, other than Webster for Flint, albeit, for 1 season only, has been an upgrade. Couple that with the plethora of players that went this summer and it’s hardly surprising we are where we are now. I can just imagine what LJ would be like if he had to deal with the current squad and it’s size. It is a real shame. What we need to do next (and are doing) is to continue to cut the wage bill and then recruit young, hungry players (like Ayling, Freeman etc) and develop our own. We need to match the ambitions of the likes of Scott, Massengo (who has been up and down this season) and Semenyo, guiding them with signings like Wilbraham, Elliott and James. We could actually have a very low cost squad in 18 months, that then gives us the opportunity to “go for it”. It’s about getting through this season intact. Feels like a waste, it is, but I don’t think there’s any other way. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It is a real shame. What we need to do next (and are doing) is to continue to cut the wage bill and then recruit young, hungry players (like Ayling, Freeman etc) and develop our own. We need to match the ambitions of the likes of Scott, Massengo (who has been up and down this season) and Semenyo, guiding them with signings like Wilbraham, Elliott and James. We could actually have a very low cost squad in 18 months, that then gives us the opportunity to “go for it”. It’s about getting through this season intact. Feels like a waste, it is, but I don’t think there’s any other way. Agreed. The transfer window Cotts had in the summer of 2014 was one of the best i can remember to be honest, not sure how easy that is going to be to replicate in 2022 and especially a division higher but like you said we have to at least give it a go and that has to be the model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Unfortunately the club didn’t meet the ambitions of the players (Bryan, Flint and Reid) in 17/18. Bryan allegedly had offers in the Jan window but club wanted him to stay to see if he could help get us up. We tailed off badly as we all know, and all 3 left in the summer, plus Magnússon (and Djuric) netting us £20m+. We bought Weimann, Hunt and Webster, loaned Kalas and Dasilva, then Palmer. It was the lowest amount in fees we paid in LJs reign, which was surprising with the amount brought in. Re the 3 players that left: I bumped into Joe Bryan at Cribbs just after our season ended. There was all kinds of shit flying around that he was in Barbados (or somewhere like that) on a pre-booked holiday because he’d downed tool second half of the season and therefore knew we wouldn’t get to the play-offs. Yet here he was chatting for about half an hour with me and (my) Joe, who he’d met several times at the Hospice, whilst waiting for his brother to pick up the wedding suits. He was pretty open about his future. Said he loved it at City, but needed a new challenge. It wasn’t about money, he said he’d been brought up in a pretty privileged position. It was obvious he wasn’t staying. Flint, we’d managed to delay his sale by 12 months, again, a case of him wanting to do the best he could in a short career that started late for him. I think it was play-offs or bust that season for him. Reid was just a case of him having a stellar season and not being able to do anything about it. Cardiff was a strange choice, but from the club point of view, you take the highest bidder. So, yes, we should’ve built on that season, but the failure to get to the playoffs meant a mini-rebuild was needed. In some respects finishing 8th (best finish under LJ) in 18/19 (we finished 11th in 17/18) justified it, but I think many would agree we weren’t the same team that season, we didn’t play great, but results kept us moving up the league (was it 13 unbeaten?), but having got into the top 6 we let didn’t win in 5, got a couple of results (West Brom (h) Sheff Utd (a)) before we didn’t win any of our last 5. It was more boom and bust. And then we lost Kelly (Bryan succession planning), Pack (the key to the system) and Webster. Even Paterson going on loan to Derby had an impact. In fairness to Johnson, he kept results going, but it wasn’t great to watch. We didn’t really improve the squad, we just made loans permanent at a cost of £14m, and Nagy for Pack was a huge risk that ultimately failed and in part cost LJ his job. So we lost 6 or 7 of our best / key players over two summers….then Brownhill. I don’t think any replacement player, other than Webster for Flint, albeit, for 1 season only, has been an upgrade. Couple that with the plethora of players that went this summer and it’s hardly surprising we are where we are now. I can just imagine what LJ would be like if he had to deal with the current squad and it’s size. It is a real shame. What we need to do next (and are doing) is to continue to cut the wage bill and then recruit young, hungry players (like Ayling, Freeman etc) and develop our own. We need to match the ambitions of the likes of Scott, Massengo (who has been up and down this season) and Semenyo, guiding them with signings like Wilbraham, Elliott and James. We could actually have a very low cost squad in 18 months, that then gives us the opportunity to “go for it”. It’s about getting through this season intact. Feels like a waste, it is, but I don’t think there’s any other way. You can tell Bryan isn't about the money. The flat he lives in in London is in a nice development, but my mate used to own one in the same block and the units are fairly modest sized 2 bed flats. A bloke on 30k a week could absolutely live in far more luxurious digs if he fancied it. But going by his Instagram Bryan lives there with his mate in his spare room. It's walking distance to the Cottage and a really nice spot, but it's not where a materialistic money man would live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Unfortunately the club didn’t meet the ambitions of the players (Bryan, Flint and Reid) in 17/18. Bryan allegedly had offers in the Jan window but club wanted him to stay to see if he could help get us up. We tailed off badly as we all know, and all 3 left in the summer, plus Magnússon (and Djuric) netting us £20m+. We bought Weimann, Hunt and Webster, loaned Kalas and Dasilva, then Palmer. It was the lowest amount in fees we paid in LJs reign, which was surprising with the amount brought in. Re the 3 players that left: I bumped into Joe Bryan at Cribbs just after our season ended. There was all kinds of shit flying around that he was in Barbados (or somewhere like that) on a pre-booked holiday because he’d downed tool second half of the season and therefore knew we wouldn’t get to the play-offs. Yet here he was chatting for about half an hour with me and (my) Joe, who he’d met several times at the Hospice, whilst waiting for his brother to pick up the wedding suits. He was pretty open about his future. Said he loved it at City, but needed a new challenge. It wasn’t about money, he said he’d been brought up in a pretty privileged position. It was obvious he wasn’t staying. Flint, we’d managed to delay his sale by 12 months, again, a case of him wanting to do the best he could in a short career that started late for him. I think it was play-offs or bust that season for him. Reid was just a case of him having a stellar season and not being able to do anything about it. Cardiff was a strange choice, but from the club point of view, you take the highest bidder. So, yes, we should’ve built on that season, but the failure to get to the playoffs meant a mini-rebuild was needed. In some respects finishing 8th (best finish under LJ) in 18/19 (we finished 11th in 17/18) justified it, but I think many would agree we weren’t the same team that season, we didn’t play great, but results kept us moving up the league (was it 13 unbeaten?), but having got into the top 6 we let didn’t win in 5, got a couple of results (West Brom (h) Sheff Utd (a)) before we didn’t win any of our last 5. It was more boom and bust. And then we lost Kelly (Bryan succession planning), Pack (the key to the system) and Webster. Even Paterson going on loan to Derby had an impact. In fairness to Johnson, he kept results going, but it wasn’t great to watch. We didn’t really improve the squad, we just made loans permanent at a cost of £14m, and Nagy for Pack was a huge risk that ultimately failed and in part cost LJ his job. So we lost 6 or 7 of our best / key players over two summers….then Brownhill. I don’t think any replacement player, other than Webster for Flint, albeit, for 1 season only, has been an upgrade. Couple that with the plethora of players that went this summer and it’s hardly surprising we are where we are now. I can just imagine what LJ would be like if he had to deal with the current squad and it’s size. It is a real shame. What we need to do next (and are doing) is to continue to cut the wage bill and then recruit young, hungry players (like Ayling, Freeman etc) and develop our own. We need to match the ambitions of the likes of Scott, Massengo (who has been up and down this season) and Semenyo, guiding them with signings like Wilbraham, Elliott and James. We could actually have a very low cost squad in 18 months, that then gives us the opportunity to “go for it”. It’s about getting through this season intact. Feels like a waste, it is, but I don’t think there’s any other way. Good overview that. Marlon Pack and Korey Smith were so important to that team. Never got my head around them leaving. I can see Lansdown trying to sell off/find new ££ backers for the football part of Bristol Sport at some stage soon. If City was run as a football club and not an accountants business model (Bristol Sport), some of those players would have stayed. From what I heard, there was very little attempt to keep some of those players. It was all about getting ££££s in. In effect selling the family silver and buying brass. Awful mistakes made. Put the club back 10 years. Edited December 21, 2021 by Tin Soldier 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tin Soldier said: Good overview that. Marlon Pack and Korey Smith were so important to that team. Never got my head around them leaving. I can see Lansdown trying to sell off/find new ££ backers for the football part of Bristol Sport at some stage soon. If City was run as a football club and not an accountants business model (Bristol Sport), some of those players would have stayed. From what I heard, there was very little attempt to keep some of those players. It was all about getting ££££s in. It’s written with hindsight (I’m generally a positive person) so a bit after the event, but I truly never understood the Pack sale at the time. I genuinely think that it was in Ashton’s best personal interests to have a lot of churn. If there was a nice stable squad, where would his ego get the air-time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 17 hours ago, ralphindevon said: Crikey! If I didn’t remember the good times every time City have been in a rough patch in the last 45 years, there would really be no point in carrying on with this affair. Now you say it that way I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 10 hours ago, eardun said: Agree. LJ has another chance to do it all again tonight of course - Q Final v Arsenal. I wonder if they will bring up our League cup run and show the Man U success as a pre cursor to this evenings game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, INCRED said: I wonder if they will bring up our League cup run and show the Man U success as a pre cursor to this evenings game I expect it'll get a mention or two. Bailey Wright captains them tonight as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, INCRED said: I wonder if they will bring up our League cup run and show the Man U success as a pre cursor to this evenings game It got a mention including a clip of LJ wheeling the ball boy around when Korey scored! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Dropped my phone and smashed it to pieces before kick off, so have no imagery to remind me of that night. The bloke next to me in S26 was imploring me to record it, and god I wish I had something left of it. I've never heard Ashton Gate as noisy and as terrifying as that, I felt like it was destined to happen. It was so loud, every single part of the ground was vibrating and perfectly in tune with the movements of the players - beyond football, one of the most oddly beautiful things I've ever seen live. It still doesn't feel real, and if that makes us sound small time then **** it, I don't care. I watched that ball bounce past Romero and I will take that with me through the rest of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-hugh-blind Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 years ago today my son was born, I hope he witnesses something as special as this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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