PHILINFRANCE Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Not my favourite newspaper, but I found this story extremely interesting and, frankly, heartbreaking. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-stacey-liverpool-ipswich-3287474 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 Only last night I sat and watched the Sky mini programme about Tony Collins. Had it recorded for ages and finally watched it last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Not my favourite newspaper, but I found this story extremely interesting and, frankly, heartbreaking. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-stacey-liverpool-ipswich-3287474 He was a friend of mine when I was about 15 or 16. We used to organize games on Horfield Common ( coats for goals) His mates in Horfield against mine from Filton. I was so pleased when he signed for City. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: He was a friend of mine when I was about 15 or 16. We used to organize games on Horfield Common ( coats for goals) His mates in Horfield against mine from Filton. I was so pleased when he signed for City. You and me both, although you and Steve would have been ten years or so before me. I well remember the games of football, though, weekends and evenings during the summer. If we got too hot, we used to go to the doctor’s surgery at the edge of the common (Dr Beddows, Meadows?) to fill up our bottle of water from the outside tap - they used to have chickens and ducks in their courtyard. I didn’t realise until after I had posted that the article was actually written a couple of years ago, by our very own @Tristan Cork no less. Well Done Tristan for an excellent article, and I don’t mind admitting I had tears in my eyes as I was reading it - so much (of the nicer parts) resonated with my own childhood, although it must have been awful for a half cast child growing up in those days knowing why his parents weren’t together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 I saw him give a talk at the M Shed rooms a few years ago. He was a really down to earth and humble bloke, with a good sense of perspective (something modern footballers seem to struggle with). It is quite a story, not only of his route through football but also the story of post-war Bristol. Times we will not see again, I suspect. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 I can recommend his book, very interesting read. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted December 22, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I can recommend his book, very interesting read. Was he American? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I can recommend his book, very interesting read. I shall endeavour to obtain a copy - quite apart from what, as you say, I am sure will be an interesting read, I should be happy to contribute to his income rather than to the numerous ‘stars’ who seem to bring out an exclusive, revealing biography every Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderarmy23 Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 I'm still in contact with Steve. Top bloke who I was related to up until a couple of years ago. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 I bought the book a while ago & it was a very good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Was he American? Depends on your definition! His dad was a black GI who had to return to the US without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted December 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, Leveller said: Depends on your definition! His dad was a black GI who had to return to the US without him. When I see a bird that walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted December 23, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Leveller said: Depends on your definition! His dad was a black GI who had to return to the US without him. I was just wondering why he was being referred to as. Bristolian and the book cover says African-American. I tried to read the Bristol live article, but for some reason anytime I try to go to any of the Reach group papers sites, my iPad locks and won’t let me scroll down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Maesknoll Red said: I was just wondering why he was being referred to as. Bristolian and the book cover says African-American. I tried to read the Bristol live article, but for some reason anytime I try to go to any of the Reach group papers sites, my iPad locks and won’t let me scroll down. He was born in Bristol and lived in a house or flat on Gloucester Road at it's junction with Ashley Road. I knew and grew up with several children with black fathers, US soldiers and airmen. I never took any notice of their skin colour; they were just friends and acquaintances. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: Was he American? His Dad was an American airman I think, he was born in Bristol . Because his Dad was black, American Army rules meant he couldn't stay and she couldn't go with him I believe . Different times, shit way to treat someone that had served his country. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Davefevs said: Only last night I sat and watched the Sky mini programme about Tony Collins. Had it recorded for ages and finally watched it last night. I still call it 'taped'. God, I'm old. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, supercidered said: I still call it 'taped'. God, I'm old. You are not alone !!! Edited December 23, 2021 by bpexile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted December 23, 2021 Report Share Posted December 23, 2021 14 hours ago, bpexile said: You are not alone !!! Bloke I used to sit next to in the Dolman always referred to the radio as the wireless. He was old mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Red Shadow said: Bloke I used to sit next to in the Dolman always referred to the radio as the wireless. He was old mind. I still do.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 6 hours ago, bpexile said: I still do.............. What else could it be???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted December 24, 2021 Report Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Isawjonshaw said: What else could it be???? Exactly!!....... Edited December 24, 2021 by bpexile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Cork Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 22/12/2021 at 21:40, PHILINFRANCE said: You and me both, although you and Steve would have been ten years or so before me. I well remember the games of football, though, weekends and evenings during the summer. If we got too hot, we used to go to the doctor’s surgery at the edge of the common (Dr Beddows, Meadows?) to fill up our bottle of water from the outside tap - they used to have chickens and ducks in their courtyard. I didn’t realise until after I had posted that the article was actually written a couple of years ago, by our very own @Tristan Cork no less. Well Done Tristan for an excellent article, and I don’t mind admitting I had tears in my eyes as I was reading it - so much (of the nicer parts) resonated with my own childhood, although it must have been awful for a half cast child growing up in those days knowing why his parents weren’t together. Thanks Phil. much appreciated. It was a pleasure to meet Steve for that interview - it was at the start of his trip to the UK which included a book launch at Ashton Gate and at Wrexham, where he played much of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 22/12/2021 at 22:42, Maesknoll Red said: Was he American? If he was American I’m sure the book would be called “The Color of Football” I do hate American English! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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