BLRed Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Now we have the bottom line figure, would be good to know from those that are good at working things out like @Davefevs as to where we stand in the market and what we have to play with. I assume based on this figure, we are solely reliant on loans or getting rid of players not in the bus before we can spend. This situation is certainly testing our academy but in the long term, can only be a good thing towards being self sufficient whilst getting back to realising profit from said players when they become in demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 But but but my pint has gone up 30p... £5.30 can you believe it... I am never buying a pint at City again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said: Excatly that and yet many fans still bemoan the owner!!! We would be gone without the Lansdown,s. A striker could be on the cards if we get rid of Palmer, Dasilva, Vyner, Simpson, Wells but what are their total worth? And who will want them? You don’t know where we’d be without them. How do you know we wouldn’t be better off. The tripling of the wage bill is his fault . Lack of a recruitment plan & letting Ashton ride roughshod for years. Obviously covid has had a big impact but if he’d had a sustainable recruitment/football plan in place we’d be in a better place. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsKev Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said: But but but my pint has gone up 30p... £5.30 can you believe it... I am never buying a pint at City again... But I won't be drinking in the ground and I want a £10m striker now! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: Anyone know why staff costs rose by nearly £1m in one year? Ashton's bonus from Steve for doing such a great job perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, marmite said: My thinking also. We always try to "rebuild" rather than "top up" what we have. Definitely need a rebuild now though don’t we! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, cidercity1987 said: But but but my pint has gone up 30p... £5.30 can you believe it... I am never buying a pint at City again... Fans spend a lot of money watching football and following city. Regardless of the club’s financial plight if fans don’t want to spend 5 pound 30 on a pint of piss that is no reflection on a supporter. Football is way out of control financially and maybe the only little light Covid has brought is that the realisation clubs need to reign it in 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Garlandinho Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 The financial result of these accounts is testament to Mark Ashton, we were heavily reliant on fortuitous player trading and without this uncovers the shambles of an operation he lead. The cost control, particularly on wages, is absolutely criminal. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 32 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Bloody Lansdown, why don't 'e put his hand in 'is pocket and buy a striker?. *bleddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 By the way, Covid is a convenient excuse for the lack of transfer profit. The truth is by the end of Ashton's reign we had no one worth selling 14 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Olé said: 25% of supporters let the club keep their season ticket payment? (Probably more than 25% given that the initial take up after Covid hit would have been down on 19/20 season ticket sales). I know there was a gesture to put the names on the third shirt but had no idea the take up was this high. This balance sheet was to the end of May - they first went on sale on April 12 so that's 6-7 weeks' worth of income for this year's tickets, and whatever amount the club kept from fans' payments last season as you mention. Not a bad tally given the state of the pandemic at the time and the short time period. Edited December 28, 2021 by RonWalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Ouch. Just £600k short of the entire £39m allowable losses for a 3 year period. Some of the covid related losses are take out of that, but this is bad. We aren't signing anyone for a fee next month. Although isn’t there a special dispensation for losses during the covid period? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Where’s the value? We’ve got 2 players essentially earning 50k/week. One warms the bench, the other is on indefinite gardening leave. We’re just paying for year after year of shambolic transfer dealings. Even when Holden came in after years of LJ collecting players, we didn’t learn, we just threw more money at the problem. Nige has been tasked with the unthinkable: a Joey Barton style ‘great reset’. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: But but but my pint has gone up 30p... £5.30 can you believe it... I am never buying a pint at City again... Nothing wrong with looking for value for money. Maybe people at the club got a bit distracted and stopped doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Glad to have Lansdown, but these figures are by and large his fault. We had a really trim quality squad that needed two or three additions. Then he let Johnson and Ashton take him to the cleaners and treble the wage bill. This was always coming. Completely agree. This all happened on his watch, he’s accountable. He’s also able to be our saviour, so to the previous point he’s a blessing and a curse. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Glad to have Lansdown, but these figures are by and large his fault. We had a really trim quality squad that needed two or three additions. Then he let Johnson and Ashton take him to the cleaners and treble the wage bill. This was always coming. It is down to Steve 100% as he took his eye off the ball. I'm no fan of LJ, for me its Ashton who's the villain. Young Jon just doesn't have the where with all to see through a snake like Ashton 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted December 28, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 This is why I keep saying Ashton going is equivalent to the period when Pulis left us with an aging squad, on big money, on long contracts. It took us years of treading water at L1 level before we were able to challenge again. Pearson's task is to attempt to do that at Championship level. 3 years to get that season off the books (or turn one of the Academy lads into a £40m sale) 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Olé said: 25% of supporters let the club keep their season ticket payment? (Probably more than 25% given that the initial take up after Covid hit would have been down on 19/20 season ticket sales). I know there was a gesture to put the names on the third shirt but had no idea the take up was this high. I wish this had been more widely publicised, I certainly would have in return for seeing the games on Robins TV (we can all insert a joke there). I saw that Plymouth fans did this in huge numbers, from memory something like 80%, whatever our views on how Steve Lansdown has run the club & his decision making, I do think there is an element of us expecting him to pick up the tab here that would not be the case if we were still in the Les Kew/ Des Williams era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Glad to have Lansdown, but these figures are by and large his fault. We had a really trim quality squad that needed two or three additions. Then he let Johnson and Ashton take him to the cleaners and treble the wage bill. This was always coming. And having no income from fans for 12 months had nothing to do with the loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, headhunter said: It is down to Steve 100% as he took his eye off the ball. I'm no fan of LJ, for me its Ashton who's the villain. Young Jon just doesn't have the where with all to see through a snake like Ashton Ashton is undoubtedly the main antagonist in this piece, but my word the degree to which Johnson flies under the radar on here is quite remarkable. It seems everything that was good was Johnson, everything that was bad was Ashton. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liamhealeybcfc96 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 On the accounts when it says profit on disposal of players what does that mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Malago said: And having no income from fans for 12 months had nothing to do with the loss? How much was down to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ian M said: This is why I keep saying Ashton going is equivalent to the period when Pulis left us with an aging squad, on big money, on long contracts. It took us years of treading water at L1 level before we were able to challenge again. Pearson's task is to attempt to do that at Championship level. 3 years to get that season off the books (or turn one of the Academy lads into a £40m sale) This is it and the explanation for Scott and Benarous being shoehorned into the team out of position. We're trying to get a bid from a rich club that will give us respite. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Although isn’t there a special dispensation for losses during the covid period? Some. I'm not sure all those details are announced yet though. It'll likely only cover the commercial losses, so won't relieve us of the transfer losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 These results are even more painful when you see high earners like KC Palmer and Naki Wells earning huge amounts but not getting anywhere near the 1st team. wow we have problems going forward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Letting players like Diedhiou and Paterson walk out of the club for free was criminal. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 The days of selling someone for £20 plus million to help out are gone as well, we don’t seem to have that player and the transfer market is screwed. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Staff costs up by millions during a pandemic….and some people still think we are well run! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, RonWalker said: This balance sheet was to the end of May - they first went on sale on April 12 so that's 6-7 weeks' worth of income for this year's tickets, and whatever amount the club kept from fans' payments last season as you mention. Not a bad tally given the state of the pandemic at the time and the short time period. Good point but surely there is an accounting adjustment for early season ticket revenue on this season, which has not been fulfilled. I've assumed season ticket revenue as published is banked and relates to the 20/21 season only within the trading year. £700,000 is what, about 2500-3000 season tickets? If it's inclusive of early sales this year, that makes the benevolent actions in 20/21 much smaller. How many names were on that third shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ian M said: This is why I keep saying Ashton going is equivalent to the period when Pulis left us with an aging squad, on big money, on long contracts. It took us years of treading water at L1 level before we were able to challenge again. Pearson's task is to attempt to do that at Championship level. 3 years to get that season off the books (or turn one of the Academy lads into a £40m sale) Perhaps the owner might take a moment to spell this out in plain English to his supporters to take a little heat off his manager? 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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