Cocaine inside football stadiums

[Oh Louie louie]

Maradona led a campaign, for the goverment at the 86 world cup to stamp out coke in his homeland.

What a great ambassador.

That picture of him celebrating a goal before he got busted, think he ran up to a camera.

He looked like hed been out with frank bough for 2 nights.

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

36 minutes ago, YCbrs said:

Funnily enough that would definitely decrease the violence as it’s an opioid, but I get that you’re joking anyway.

I’m 27 and had a serious drug addiction for six years, including coke. Most of what everyone is saying is absolutely true (amount of people using it, not just in football but in the general population). Being the age I am I genuinely can’t go to watch a game with a few ‘mates’ at Ashton Gate without being offered a bump or a line, which has resulted in me restricting myself to going with one of the only friends that can take drugs sparingly and not at football, or failing that my old man.

Seriously though I don’t think the police, government or older generation realise how endemic not just coke, but drugs in general are in late teens and twenty odd year olds now. You don’t have to find dealers anymore you just join a WhatsApp group and within five minutes you’ll have a menu from five different people that offers you every street and prescription drug on the planet.

Don’t get me wrong, for people that can control it I don’t think it’s a huge issue but with the massive rise in mental health problems and the ease of availability of a lot of drugs combined with how addictive certain prescription (Codeine/OxyContin, Xanax) and street drugs (Mainly Cocaine and Ketamine) further combined with the glamorisation by complete idiots in the music industry - people are trying things they wouldn’t have 20 years ago because these idiot ‘artists’ are telling them it’s cool.

Ive been clean for about six months now and focus on scuba diving, playing football, travelling (docks are a bit cold for diving and not much to see) and trying to eat well and just be more healthy. I have a list of mental health diagnosis as long as my arm but I can probably only put depression and anxiety down as being caused by, or at least made worse by drugs. Like I said for people that control it and CAN genuinely control it, it’s not the end of the world if they take something they enjoy sparingly and can afford it, but I was in a situation where it was either keep going till I died (which I can extremely close to last year after OD’ing and waking up in the BRI) or sort my shit out and get addicted and back into the things I’ve always loved.

Its definitely not something I’m proud to have a history of, however it is what it is and if anyone reading this is struggling with drug abuse and wants any advice or someone to talk to please don’t hesitate to DM me.

But in response to the OP, I’d say about half of the people that use the facilities throughout the game actually need a number two, and are just going in there because it has a door lock.

I feel for you, I haven't drank for over a decade now completely t-total, I just didn't have a great relationship with alcohol, so one day I stopped.   And even though your friends and work mates know you don't want a pint/drink they still find it odd, and ask you if you want one regardless, luckily for me I'm strong willed and just decline the offer, but for people who are less strong willed you can understand why people struggle.  Learn to love being sober, you feel more, and experience life in a clean memorable less hazey way. 

[2015]

The gym and living healthy should be the drug young people should use as a way of getting a 'buzz' or a high. Drugs, Alcohol, Gambling, Smoking absolutely mess up your whole system - mentally and physically. 

There really is a big problem in youth of today with drugs, just go to some away matches and you'll see for yourself that many are on more than just the booze!

[Barrs Court Red]

It’s funny how coke use has exploded in the last 20 years. It went from something you’d see on naughty football coaches to pub toilets in a short space of time, with some “high profile” (and I use the term loosely) appearing in all the tabloids because her nose was falling apart through its use. 
 

A few years ago I did a mid day pub crawl with a mate one Xmas eve, and started in the Hanham spoons for a microwaved breakfast.  The queue to have a line at 11am was longer than the one to get a beer at the bar. 

[Waconda]

19 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Everyone?

Not me. 

But I'm a self confident, non sheep type, happy not to follow the crowd and fit in at the expense of my self worth.

[The Coach]

19 hours ago, David Brent said:

I could show you a graph of cocaine users vs stone island wearing gimps who live with their mum and where does the line go

up their nose? 

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

17 hours ago, MarcusX said:

 

If you take what Alex said literally then yes, but that would also be stupid.

Hes not wrong though, it’s absolutely rife these days. I wouldn’t say “everyone” is on it, but I’m amongst several friendship groups for various sports, friends etc and majority of every group will have it on a night out.

what shocks me is how blatant it is. I’m sure if it used to be as common 10 years ago amongst the same people then it was hidden. Certainly was never discussed amongst the whole group, now it’s one of the first things asked when planning a night out. I think a lot would be surprised how common place it is amongst younger people too. It might have been naivety on my part but once you’re aware you spot it going on instantly in the pub toilets etc

Personally not my thing, tried it once or twice but didn’t get the hype. Not a fan of it going up my nose either. The odd pill at a festival now and again though is a different matter, and I’m sure that’s never caused a fight - much more likely to end ina cuddle!

In the mid noughties I was at a house party and the majority of the people there were back and fourth to the coke room.  I was in a small group of alcohol only consuming people it's been popular for ages, I think it's just more brazen now than its ever been, I'm kind of glad I'm oldish and not in and around this as much. 

[nebristolred]

2 hours ago, YCbrs said:

Seriously though I don’t think the police, government or older generation realise how endemic not just coke, but drugs in general are in late teens and twenty odd year olds now. You don’t have to find dealers anymore you just join a WhatsApp group and within five minutes you’ll have a menu from five different people that offers you every street and prescription drug on the planet.

Don’t get me wrong, for people that can control it I don’t think it’s a huge issue but with the massive rise in mental health problems and the ease of availability of a lot of drugs combined with how addictive certain prescription (Codeine/OxyContin, Xanax) and street drugs (Mainly Cocaine and Ketamine) further combined with the glamorisation by complete idiots in the music industry - people are trying things they wouldn’t have 20 years ago because these idiot ‘artists’ are telling them it’s cool.

Yep exactly what I've been trying to bring across, great post this. And I'm sorry for your story - I think it is absolutely true that for many who can control it, I'd say it's arguably not that bad whatsoever, certainly not in comparison to alcohol. Doing a bit of MD here and there and a bump of coke on occasion cannot be worse than drinking 3 or 4 times a week, and there are psychological studies to back that up too.

But as you say, that's only when it goes okay, and clearly it doesn't for everyone, and to some extent it's just down to luck in some ways as to whether you're the sort to be addicted to it or to be negatively impacted by certain drugs. Let's not forget that some popular ones are not addictive (in the traditional sense) whatsoever. But I can't argue a case against those who are impacted because I'm lucky enough not to have an addictive personality as such, so seeing your opinion is really interesting. I hope you're doing alright because I know once you're in a group of mates and it's such a fundamental part of socialising with them, it's incredibly difficult to break out of.

I think 2 huge steps would be firstly for the public to realise just how everywhere it is. There will be so many people in restaurants and bars whinging about drugs to their group of mates, all while not having a clue that 2 or 3 of their company use or are on them. We can't address things until we have a grown up conversation about them. And secondly, the public needs to get a grasp of levels of drug impact. People automatically hear the words 'drugs' and instantly think 'bad', while being completely oblivious to the fact that drinking constantly is in fact worse than occasional use of some drugs.

2 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Most people i knew on hard drugs, took heroin and crack cocaine.

There is a substitute for heroin.

There is none for coke.

 

I'll be honest, I'm a gig goer, festival goer, our group of mates use stuff routinely, and I've never met a person who has used or even seen heroin or crack cocaine.

I could be wrong, but I'd be amazed if either of those were anywhere near as prevalent as the ones we're talking about up to this point.

Edited December 30, 2021 by nebristolred

[forbespm]

Alcohol,tobacco,cocaine? There all drugs...

Ecstasy was popular in the 90,s and football hooliganism declined

For a while 

[Oh Louie louie]

Il take it you never seen the libertines live then.

Or blur, damon had a issue for many years.

Or the happy mondays maybe?

 

 

[Oh Louie louie]

Think how rife ir would have been backstage in the 90s.

 

[redsince1994]

2 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

I feel for you, I haven't drank for over a decade now completely t-total, I just didn't have a great relationship with alcohol, so one day I stopped.   And even though your friends and work mates know you don't want a pint/drink they still find it odd, and ask you if you want one regardless, luckily for me I'm strong willed and just decline the offer, but for people who are less strong willed you can understand why people struggle.  Learn to love being sober, you feel more, and experience life in a clean memorable less hazey way. 

Havent had a drink in a couple of months for the exact same reason, myself and alcohol were not getting along. 

A couple of mates were still offering me drinks and taking the piss out of the fact that I wasn't drinking.

Their tune changed very quickly when I was able to drive them to McDonalds at 2am though 

[Oh Louie louie]

Some people are very very good at hiding habits.

For example, a television actor of many years, went on a crack binge.

His driver filmed everything.

He also got him to stop at the motorway services, and spent 40 pounds, on a certain type of magazine.

Serivce stations are expensive, i wonder how many magazines 40 quid bought?

 

[David Brent]

11 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Some people are very very good at hiding habits.

For example, a television actor of many years, went on a crack binge.

His driver filmed everything.

He also got him to stop at the motorway services, and spent 40 pounds, on a certain type of magazine.

Serivce stations are expensive, i wonder how many magazines 40 quid bought?

 

Only got me 4 last time 

[Red-Robbo]

26 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

I'll be honest, I'm a gig goer, festival goer, our group of mates use stuff routinely, and I've never met a person who has used or even seen heroin or crack cocaine.

I could be wrong, but I'd be amazed if either of those were anywhere near as prevalent as the ones we're talking about up to this point.

 

Although there are some dank housing estates in Britain's cities where both are consumed, they have entirely gone out of fashion.

I think I read somewhere that the average age of a registered heroin user in the UK was 45.  Lots of old guys who'd acquired habits in the 80s and early 90s and gone through the treadmill of using/kicking/relapsing multiple times. 

I've met ex-junkies, but the allure of a drug that makes you feel nauseous then you just fall asleep for ages was always lost on me. 

Coke, by contrast, is very much a "party drug" as it keeps you up and active no matter how many pints you sink. 

Drugs come in and out of fashion though, and right now coke is it (as the old ad slogan said).  It was rare when I was a young man, but back in the 1920s and 30s it had been the "hit" drug for the moneyed classes. Noel Coward wrote a play about it (The Vortex) and Cole Porter mentions it in the lyrics of "I get a kick out of you". 

[forbespm]

22 minutes ago, redsince1994 said:

Havent had a drink in a couple of months for the exact same reason, myself and alcohol were not getting along. 

A couple of mates were still offering me drinks and taking the piss out of the fact that I wasn't drinking.

Their tune changed very quickly when I was able to drive them to McDonalds at 2am though 

Same here.I quit alcohol 18 years ago,decided cider at breakfast was becoming a problem :laugh:.

Best thing I ever did was quit but the response you get when you tell people you don't drink alcohol is astonishing,some have even collapsed in shock!! :laugh:

Keep up the good work mate coyr

[2015]

4 minutes ago, forbespm said:

Same here.I quit alcohol 18 years ago,decided cider at breakfast was becoming a problem :laugh:.

Best thing I ever did was quit but the response you get when you tell people you don't drink alcohol is astonishing,some have even collapsed in shock!!

Keep up the good work mate coyr

It's sad that as a Country it is seen by many that it's socially unacceptable to not drink alcohol. It's overrated, if I'm honest

[Oh Louie louie]

Any southmead city on here recall the gentlemen with the iron door.

Jesus the storys you heard about him.

[forbespm]

Just now, 2015 said:

It's sad that as a Country it is seen by many that it's socially unacceptable to not drink alcohol. It's overrated, if I'm honest

The quote"it's the only drug in the world you have to justify not taking "

Is so true....i,m not anti alcohol at all but just so glad I live my life without it .

Highly addictive but when people get hooked on it they are seen as the problem! It's nuts

[YCbrs]

44 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

Yep exactly what I've been trying to bring across, great post this. And I'm sorry for your story - I think it is absolutely true that for many who can control it, I'd say it's arguably not that bad whatsoever, certainly not in comparison to alcohol. Doing a bit of MD here and there and a bump of coke on occasion cannot be worse than drinking 3 or 4 times a week, and there are psychological studies to back that up too.

But as you say, that's only when it goes okay, and clearly it doesn't for everyone, and to some extent it's just down to luck in some ways as to whether you're the sort to be addicted to it or to be negatively impacted by certain drugs. Let's not forget that some popular ones are not addictive (in the traditional sense) whatsoever. But I can't argue a case against those who are impacted because I'm lucky enough not to have an addictive personality as such, so seeing your opinion is really interesting. I hope you're doing alright because I know once you're in a group of mates and it's such a fundamental part of socialising with them, it's incredibly difficult to break out of.

I think 2 huge steps would be firstly for the public to realise just how everywhere it is. There will be so many people in restaurants and bars whinging about drugs to their group of mates, all while not having a clue that 2 or 3 of their company use or are on them. We can't address things until we have a grown up conversation about them. And secondly, the public needs to get a grasp of levels of drug impact. People automatically hear the words 'drugs' and instantly think 'bad', while being completely oblivious to the fact that drinking constantly is in fact worse than occasional use of some drugs.

I'll be honest, I'm a gig goer, festival goer, our group of mates use stuff routinely, and I've never met a person who has used or even seen heroin or crack cocaine.

I could be wrong, but I'd be amazed if either of those were anywhere near as prevalent as the ones we're talking about up to this point.

Don’t be sorry mate, I appreciate it but I’m happier now than I’ve ever been! And you’re bang on about heroine and crack also. Never seen either in my life.

My dad’s got that mindset of it being illegal so it must be bad but multiple studies have shown that moderate use of LSD and other psychedelics is actually beneficial for mental health, as well as CBD which is the non-narcotic chemical compound of Cannabis. Meanwhile he sits and drinks nigh on a bottle of vodka every night, just have to find it funny sometimes people are just so set in their ways it’s impossible to change their mindset.

[Shaun Taylor]

52 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Il take it you never seen the libertines live then.

Or blur, damon had a issue for many years.

Or the happy mondays maybe?

 

 

And you haven't even mentioned the Stone Roses!

[Lew-T]

12 minutes ago, 2015 said:

It's sad that as a Country it is seen by many that it's socially unacceptable to not drink alcohol. It's overrated, if I'm honest

People use it for different purposes though. Some people use booze to get away from everyday life, some use booze to make themselves feel confident etc. 

I’m not a confident lad by any stretch, so sometimes I have a drink to make myself heard on a night out. Sad it sounds but that’s the reality.

Everybody is different of course.

[2015]

10 minutes ago, forbespm said:

The quote"it's the only drug in the world you have to justify not taking "

Is so true....i,m not anti alcohol at all but just so glad I live my life without it .

Highly addictive but when people get hooked on it they are seen as the problem! It's nuts

I've never really been a massive drinker, ever. It's good don't get me wrong, but to me no better than eating a nice Pizza like Pep Guardiola said about his Man City team after winning the title this year . As a Nation, we massively overhype alcohol and if you're not a big drinker yourself, it can be difficult on social occasions when you don't drink

[MarcusX]

6 hours ago, Bernard Lerring said:

Thinking about its effect on football violence, I think it's too easy to say that the "surge" is due to people doing coke. It's an eye catching scaremongering story from a rag of a paper 

I'd imagine a proper study would also cite a societal backdrop of the feelings of being cooped up in lockdown, the frustration of government restrictions and inadequate stewarding/ policing etc, as potential drivers too.

But obviously that would take some more effort by the 'journalist' than wiping a tissue around a toilet, and then creating a sensationalist headline.

Personally I blame it on the removal of the sheep pie

Has violence even got worse since lockdown? Obviously the summer was a bit of a shambles but that wasn’t traditional football “violence” just a lot of opportunists who realised they could probably get into a 3/4 full stadium.

I don’t remember hearing much violence and fighting amongst fans other than that ?

[Shaun Taylor]

5 minutes ago, 2015 said:

I've never really been a massive drinker, ever. It's good don't get me wrong, but to me no better than eating a nice Pizza like Pep Guardiola said about his Man City team after winning the title this year . As a Nation, we massively overhype alcohol and if you're not a big drinker yourself, it can be difficult on social occasions when you don't drink

Good post and a very good point that you make not everyone drinks and that you can feel a little left out on social occasions. I think the French are brought up on drinking wine with their meals at a young age so don't feel the need to binge drink later on in life like some of them British do.

PS don't mention the words Man City too often you will give me nightmares

[nebristolred]

1 hour ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Il take it you never seen the libertines live then.

Or blur, damon had a issue for many years.

Or the happy mondays maybe?

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, Shaun Taylor said:

And you haven't even mentioned the Stone Roses!

Seem all of 'em! But they were all some time ago (although not for the Roses drummer allegedly) - I still don't think heroin nor crack cocaine are prevalent today in the same way coke/MD/ketamine is but that's purely anecdotal.

[Shaun Taylor]

2 minutes ago, nebristolred said:

 

Seem all of 'em! But they were all some time ago (although not for the Roses drummer allegedly) - I still don't think heroin nor crack cocaine are prevalent today in the same way coke/MD/ketamine is but that's purely anecdotal.

It's strange that weed very rarely gets a mention nowadays probably deemed as too soft a drug.

Edited December 30, 2021 by Shaun Taylor

[Numero Uno]

2 hours ago, VT05763 said:

Not me. 

But I'm a self confident, non sheep type, happy not to follow the crowd and fit in at the expense of my self worth.

One of my pet hates when people say “everyone” yet are talking about a minority. The thought of sniffing powder off the shitter paper holder in Spoons doesn’t do it for me either…….

[Oh Louie louie]

You say heroin and crack arent prevalent today.

I beg to differ.

The money spent on that daily in bristol alone would shock you!

One phone box alone had 20ks worth a drug deals going through it a day!

Do the maths there.

 

[Shaun Taylor]

3 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

I feel for you, I haven't drank for over a decade now completely t-total, I just didn't have a great relationship with alcohol, so one day I stopped.   And even though your friends and work mates know you don't want a pint/drink they still find it odd, and ask you if you want one regardless, luckily for me I'm strong willed and just decline the offer, but for people who are less strong willed you can understand why people struggle.  Learn to love being sober, you feel more, and experience life in a clean memorable less hazey way. 

Good post of which I can also relate to.