Admin Popular Post phantom Posted January 7, 2022 Admin Popular Post Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 No More Red is an initiative between Arsenal and adidas that will see adidas support the long-standing work being done by Arsenal in the Community to keep young people safe from knife crime and youth violence. There were more than 10,000 knife crime offences in London between June 2020 – June 2021. Last year also saw the highest number of teenage murders in a year in London since records began – most of which involved knife attacks. No More Red will build on Arsenal in the Community’s work with young people in the capital, as well as providing more safe, positive spaces for young people and spotlighting talented individuals who are making a positive difference in their community. Throughout the initiative adidas also will be supporting by: Investing in creating and refurbishing safe spaces to play football – starting with the pitch on Harvist Estate just minutes away from Emirates Stadium Creating a No More Red mentorship scheme where young people doing positive work in the community will be supported by creative talent including Idris Elba, Ian Wright, DJ Emerald Rose Lewis and artist Reuben Dangoor among others Providing access to its talent network who will make regular contributions to Arsenal in the Community programmes that provide a wide range of training, quality spaces, positive role models and tangible opportunities for young people As part of the campaign, we have also taken the unprecedented step of replacing our iconic red home shirt with an entirely white kit in our Emirates FA Cup tie against Nottingham Forest. The kit will never be commercially available and will only ever be awarded to individuals who are making a positive difference in the community. Following the game, the ten shirts worn by outfield players have been gifted to organisations doing work in the community to address some of the root causes of knife crime and youth violence. These organisations are Arsenal in the Community The Stephen Lawrence Day Foundation Steel Warriors Don’t Stab Your Future (DSYF) Box Up Crime Copenhagen Youth Project St Giles Trust Abianda Octopus Community Network The Ben Kinsella Trust As part of the campaign, we have worked with actor Idris Elba, and Arsenal legend Ian Wright. Idris Elba, founder of Don’t Stab Your Future and mentor as part of No More Red said: “From the time young people leave school, until the time they’re at home with family, there is often a void, a dangerous spike of nothing to do, where nothing can easily turn to something dangerous. “If there continues to be no options for this after-school period, we will always see gangs form. Let’s create options for these young people.” Ian Wright MBE said: “Every young person deserves the opportunity to express themselves. The opportunity to exist within a safe environment. The opportunity to live free from fear of violence. We can never accept loss of life through youth violence as ‘normal’ in our city and it’s so important that we all work together to create a better environment for young people. “By giving young people more places to play sport, more support, and access to individuals who can inspire them, together we can help make a difference to young people in London.” The shirt will become a symbol of positivity in the community, given to individuals and organisations who are giving back to the community and creating a positive environment for young people. 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Being a bit of a grinch - I'd be more impressed if their mega-earning players (and Idris) chucked in some cash to fund another 25 community youth workers for a year or 3. That might actually help. Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. White shirts won't help anyone. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Being a bit of a grinch - I'd be more impressed if their mega-earning players (and Idris) chucked in some cash to fund another 25 community youth workers for a year or 3. That might actually help. Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. White shirts won't help anyone. Obviously the argument to this is the amount of tax the arsenal players pay would fund far more 25 community youth workers so in reality they are already doing more than you ask. I wasn't aware that it was so bad so making people aware seems good to me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Being a bit of a grinch - I'd be more impressed if their mega-earning players (and Idris) chucked in some cash to fund another 25 community youth workers for a year or 3. That might actually help. Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. White shirts won't help anyone. Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Isawjonshaw said: Spot on. Education amongst other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Pezo said: Obviously the argument to this is the amount of tax the arsenal players pay would fund far more 25 community youth workers so in reality they are already doing more than you ask. I wasn't aware that it was so bad so making people aware seems good to me. Not sure anyone will know what percentage of a footballers tax would go to a particular charity. However if a donation is made, and gift aided, 25% will be added to the donation from the tax the footballer has paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Did anyone read the article? They’re being given to good-Samaritan organisations. And Adidas are putting their money into safe spaces etc too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. Media might promote out of control, but don’t think stats support that perspective. Murder rate not out of line with some other parts of the UK and given a population broadly in line with Hungary or Portugal, unsurprising that there’s some violent crime. Clearly there are issues, often linked to drugs/poverty and this initiative is looking to address some of those, but fair way removed from out of control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Being a bit of a grinch - I'd be more impressed if their mega-earning players (and Idris) chucked in some cash to fund another 25 community youth workers for a year or 3. That might actually help. Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. White shirts won't help anyone. At least their trying to do some good?...........instead of sitting at a keyboard, not achieving a great deal more than espousing negativity? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) Knife crime is clearly a major problem, the link below makes sobering reading, count the number of times the word 'Stabbed' appears. Homicide victims in London in 2021 - murdermap Most charitable organisations don't need money most, they need media exposure, that helps drive cash, volunteers and 'clients' to them. Arsenal doing this will get massive national and international press exposure that money cannot buy. As to footballers not putting their hands in their own pockets, how do you know that they don't? Edited January 8, 2022 by Hxj 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Being a bit of a grinch - I'd be more impressed if their mega-earning players (and Idris) chucked in some cash to fund another 25 community youth workers for a year or 3. That might actually help. Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. White shirts won't help anyone. I’d agree with your first six words….. I’m interested though in how you know what Arsenal players do and don’t spend their money on. Also, whether your view about giving your time rather than money extends to things like royals and others who are patrons of charities, to celebrity UNICEF ambassadors and the like, to the lady next door who volunteers at the Oxfam shop. Or is it just footballers? What really won’t help anyone is a government in denial about the consequences of 12 years of savage cuts to community and youth services and one that’s more interested in political point scoring than really solving the problem of knife crime in London. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) . Edited January 8, 2022 by The Constant Rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Probably about as nice a kit as I’ve ever seen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCbrs Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Admittedly not the point but the kit is beautiful. The message is far more important and it’s difficult to change every young lad’s mind because of the glamorisation of violence and the allure of the money of being involved in crime and gang culture. BUT there is definitely a lot of kids that do get involved because they have genuinely nothing to do, and whilst not being particularly religious the phrase “the devil makes work for idle hands” is 100% true. At the end of the day it’s a one off kit being worn for one day and if it inspires just one person to try and make a difference it’s a good thing. Not like they’ve shelled out millions on a hit or miss attempt that could have been better spent. And in response to a previous poster, everyone is aware of the knife crime epidemic in London - obviously. But messages like this inspire people to actually become active in helping kids which they might not have thought about doing before, not because they’re bad people, just not something that had crossed their mind - you’d be surprised how initiatives like this actually make an impact. And I’m sure Idris Elba does fund youth clubs considering that’s literally what his one of his charity’s main aims is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Not going to make much difference is it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 9, 2022 Author Admin Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Not going to make much difference is it If it saves one life its worth it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, phantom said: If it saves one life its worth it True, but I'm not even sure it'll do that. Much more needs to be done to make a real difference 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 10:56, Hxj said: Knife crime is clearly a major problem, the link below makes sobering reading, count the number of times the word 'Stabbed' appears. Homicide victims in London in 2021 - murdermap Most charitable organisations don't need money most, they need media exposure, that helps drive cash, volunteers and 'clients' to them. Arsenal doing this will get massive national and international press exposure that money cannot buy. As to footballers not putting their hands in their own pockets, how do you know that they don't? Many footballers do put their hands in their pockets and donate significant sums of money and time to charity, as does Idris Elba tbf. What they don’t do is tell all and sundry because the same people rinsing them for “not” doing it despite not really knowing would call them “big time” if they shouted it from the rooftops. Plus, like it or not, it’s their money and their business. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: Not going to make much difference is it That's the spirit, you utterly joyless contrarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Northern Red said: That's the spirit, you utterly joyless contrarian. Well how do you think it'll make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Not going to make much difference is it I’m guessing the ten charities that signed up including Idris Elba’s charity must have some reason for doing so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: I’m guessing the ten charities that signed up including Idris Elba’s charity must have some reason for doing so? Well it certainly can't do any harm, and fair play to those charities for trying to help. Still think there needs to be a lot more done though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 hours ago, AshtonGreat said: Well it certainly can't do any harm, and fair play to those charities for trying to help. Still think there needs to be a lot more done though. Where would you start? I would hope other institutions follow suit (not just football clubs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 05:09, The Constant Rabbit said: Being a bit of a grinch - I'd be more impressed if their mega-earning players (and Idris) chucked in some cash to fund another 25 community youth workers for a year or 3. That might actually help. Does anyone NOT know that knife-crime (along with most violent crime) is out of control in some suburbs of London. White shirts won't help anyone. How do you know they don’t? But even if they don’t, why should some footballers and an actor pay for it, lots of rich people in London could foot the bill if that’s how you want it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 14 hours ago, YCbrs said: Admittedly not the point but the kit is beautiful. The message is far more important and it’s difficult to change every young lad’s mind because of the glamorisation of violence and the allure of the money of being involved in crime and gang culture. BUT there is definitely a lot of kids that do get involved because they have genuinely nothing to do, and whilst not being particularly religious the phrase “the devil makes work for idle hands” is 100% true. At the end of the day it’s a one off kit being worn for one day and if it inspires just one person to try and make a difference it’s a good thing. Not like they’ve shelled out millions on a hit or miss attempt that could have been better spent. And in response to a previous poster, everyone is aware of the knife crime epidemic in London - obviously. But messages like this inspire people to actually become active in helping kids which they might not have thought about doing before, not because they’re bad people, just not something that had crossed their mind - you’d be surprised how initiatives like this actually make an impact. And I’m sure Idris Elba does fund youth clubs considering that’s literally what his one of his charity’s main aims is. How do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: How do you mean? No work, or the idea that there isn’t anything better so become involved in gang culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: No work, or the idea that there isn’t anything better so become involved in gang culture. Oh I thought you were suggesting that there was nothing to do in terms of interests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, AshtonGreat said: Oh I thought you were suggesting that there was nothing to do in terms of interests I think it all goes hand in hand though… You have to consider the locality too. Some may have interests, some may not, it could possibly depend on their peer group? Growing up in a small town, I remember being a teenager and it wasn't considered cool by some, to have interests. I guess poverty has a hand to play in it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I think it all goes hand in hand though… You have to consider the locality too. Some may have interests, some may not, it could possibly depend on their peer group? Growing up in a small town, I remember being a teenager and it wasn't considered cool by some, to have interests. I guess poverty has a hand to play in it as well. Interests don't have to be uncool though: football, video games, making music... The kids of today have more options than any of the previous generations had. The government and Sadiq Khan could be doing a lot more, of course. Certainly in helping those communities in the first place, but also with tougher sentencing. It doesn't exactly help when the England football team appear to endorse music that makes light of street violence. Edited January 10, 2022 by AshtonGreat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 10, 2022 Report Share Posted January 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Interests don't have to be uncool though: football, video games, making music... The kids of today have more options than any of the previous generations had. The government and Sadiq Khan could be doing a lot more, of course. Certainly in helping those communities in the first place, but also with tougher sentencing. It doesn't exactly help when the England football team appear to endorse music that makes light of street violence. Some might do that but there are some who can't see anything apart from the path they are on. It's a complex situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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